"The Simpsons" may end over money dispute

Oct 4, 2011, 2:41 PM ET33 posts by 19 posters
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David

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/04/the-simpsons-money-dispute-may-shut-down-fox-tv-s-long-running-hit.html

Money Dispute May End 'Simpsons' by Lloyd Grove

As Homer Simpson would put it, �D�oh!�

It looks like The Simpsons�20th Century Fox Television�s multibillion-dollar cash cow, the anchor of the Fox network�s Sunday prime-time schedule, and the longest-running sitcom in the history of broadcasting�might stop production after the current 23rd season ends next spring.

The reason is a negotiating impasse between the studio and the six principal actors who voice the beloved characters on the animated series that hilariously satirizes middle-class Midwestern angst.

Difficult bargaining is nothing new for the show, which was created by James L. Brooks and Matt Groening. Fox studio execs have occasionally threatened to replace uncooperative cast members with sound-alike actors. But for the first time in nearly a quarter century of haggling, the executives have insisted that if the cast doesn�t accept a draconian 45 percent pay cut, The Simpsons will die an abrupt death as a first-run series.

A Fox Television spokesman had no comment at the time of publication Monday night. On Tuesday, the studio issued the following statement: "23 seasons in, The Simpsons is as creatively vibrant as ever and beloved by millions around the world. We believe this brilliant series can and should continue, but we cannot produce future seasons under its current financial model. We are hopeful that we can reach an agreement with the voice cast that allows The Simpsons to go on entertaining audiences with original episodes for many years to come." The pay-cut ultimatum was delivered Monday evening as Fox spurned the actors� proposal�delivered late last week�to take around a 30 percent pay cut in exchange for a tiny percentage of the show�s huge back-end profits�amounting to untold billions�from syndication of the show around the globe and merchandising of Simpsons clothing, lunchboxes, stamps, DVDs, a feature film and video games, among other paraphernalia. The series is produced by the 20th Century Fox studio and aired by the Fox network, both News Corp. companies, but the studio reaps the ancillary rewards.

�Fox is taking the position that unless they can cut the production costs really drastically, they�ll pull the plug on new shows,� said a Simpsons insider with knowledge of the negotiations. �The show has made billions in profits over the years and will continue to do so as far as the eye can see down the road. The actors are willing to take a pay cut of roughly a third, but that�s not good enough for Fox.�

Not that the actors have been hurting.

Dan Castellaneta (Homer, Grampa Simpson, Krusty the Clown, and others), Julie Kavner (Marge and others), Nancy Cartwright (Bart and others), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Hank Azaria (Moe Szyslak, Chief Wiggum and Apu Nahasapeemapetilon), and Harry Shearer (Mr. Burns, Principal Skinner, Ned Flanders, and others) each earn about $8 million annually for about 22 weeks� work.

Even under Fox Studio�s proposed downgrade, they would still be making around $4 million apiece, which goes a long way in the fictitious town of Springfield, and even in the allegedly real city of Hollywood.

But the actors have long argued that they deserve a taste of the plentiful syndication and merchandising profits because they�ve contributed creatively to the success of The Simpsons almost as much as Brooks and Groening. The latter two benefit greatly from the show�s back-end revenue, and will continue to get even richer off the second round of syndication deals once new episodes are no longer being produced.

But Fox has consistently refused to compensate the main cast members beyond their generous salaries, and once production ends, the studio will continue to reap billions for years to come (with Fox drawing on a valuable archive of around 500 episodes), while the actors will receive little more than their union-mandated residuals.

�Now Fox is basically saying, �If you don�t take this deal, we�ll shut down the show,� and they�ll continue to make a ton of money,� said the insider. �They�re free to sell it to cable and a second round of syndication, and they figure that the cast has very little leverage.�

The Simpsons�while no longer attracting the ratings it once did�remains the key to Fox�s Sunday-night schedule, serving as a strong 8 p.m. lead-in for Seth MacFarlane�s Family Guy and American Dad sitcoms.

�They�ve had plenty of opportunity to pick another show for 8 o�clock, and they haven�t done it,� said the insider.

W/QDavid

I don't get it. The show has made billions in profits and the network still finds it difficult to cover its costs and the voice actors' salaries? Who's screwing who?

ObveeusDavid

"David" wrote:

A 45% pay cut seems perfectly fair given how many years this show has been in declining ratings and how many times the voice actors have extracted more money along the way.

I only that were true. the real problem for FOX is that their animated shows in recent years aren't as good as even the aging Simpsons so FOX still needs the show as the Sunday anchor.

The solution is simply to replace the voice cast...all of them if needed.

Exactly...a really easy job and they get paid more than 99.9% of the people in the acting business. Cut them all loose and hire some new voices. It might even help the show's ratings to add just a tiny bit of freshness. Getting paid millions of dollars really should be enough for a group of people that lucked into this job simply because Tracy Ulmann hired most of them to do a skit show.

Aaron HirshbergObveeus

No. I've seen those Flintstone's Vitamin commercials where there are different voice actors. It just isn't the same.

"Yabba dabba dus they look like us!"

Mr. Museum

WiseguyAaron Hirshberg

"[email]" wrote in news:[email]:

Alan Reed died in the late 1970's. All Flintstones episodes/specials/TV movies since used a different actor. The second Fred (Henry Corden) died in 2005. The original Betty (Bea Benederet) left halfway through the original series to do "Petticoat Junction." There have been several Bettys since. Much like the voice of Homer, the voice of Barney Rubble changed after the first few episodes even though if was still Mel Blanc. Now all the original actors are dead. The change of voice actors never hurt The Flintstones. And it will return in 2013.

Joe RamirezObveeus

Almost as easy as a studio exec's sitting in his underwear on top of a giant stack of "Simpsons" episodes and signing syndication agreements in crayon. Now that's workin'.

number6Obveeus

On Oct 4, 3:37 pm, "Obveeus" wrote:

Actually not ... when Ullman tried to collect some profits from the Simpsons she had to admit in court that although the skit on her show she had nothing to do with its characters ... Even though Castellano and Kavner from her show were hired ... and I think she even did a voice or two on a show ... and she got paid for it being a part of her show ... Groening was the creator and creative force ... the jury affirmed that ... and she got nothing ...

Obveeusnumber6

"number6" wrote: On Oct 4, 3:37 pm, "Obveeus" wrote:

I didn't say that she had anything to do with the characters. The point was and remains that the people on her show never would have been hired to voice The Simpsons if it weren't for the fact that they were on the Tracy Ulmann show. They lucked into this cushy multi-multi-million dollar job.

Ed StasiakObveeus

As opposed to the fat cat network exes and shyster Wall Street parasites, who contributed nothing to the success of the show yet take the lions share of the profits and will for years to come?

Ed StasiakObveeus

As opposed to the fat cat network exes and shyster Wall Street parasites, who contributed nothing to the success of the show yet take the lions share of the profits and will for years to come?

BortEd Stasiak

Ed Stasiak wrote:

Don't you have an "Occupy Space" protest to attend or something?

Professor BubbaObveeus

In article , Obveeus wrote:

The real solution is to treat the talent fairly. The voice actors are a large part, perhaps the largest, of the reason for the success of this show and the money it brings in. They deserve every dime they can wring out of the project.

ObveeusProfessor Bubba

Maybe all they can wring out of it this upcoming year is $4million. When they snub their noses at that, they should be sent packing. 6 actors multiplied by their current $8million each = $48million. I bet they can get 6 sound alikes for under $1million total. That means $47million in savings to help offset the declining ratings for the show. That kind of savings might just keep The Simpsons on the air for another few seasons.

Professor BubbaObveeus

In article , Obveeus wrote:

The show likely won't survive a cast change, but I'm not sure Fox wants or needs the show to go on for much longer, anyway.

The cast is asking for a cut of the merchandising, and is proposing to trade some of its upfront salary for that.

ObveeusProfessor Bubba

"Professor Bubba" wrote:

I don't see a whole lot of tune-out over the voices changing slightly. people still watch those peanut cartoons and the cartoons on the cable channels survive voice changes somewhat routinely.

FOX hasn't been able to create new animated shows (or live action sitcoms) that can pull the ratings of The Simpsons. As a result, they most certainly do want the show to continue if it is at a reasonable price.

Which they should not get.

Invid FanObveeus

In article , Obveeus wrote:

If they're cutting the pay of the producers, writers, and animators as well, then I can see your point. Firing the actors to keep the pay of the behind the camera people the same, though, just isn't right.

Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!" 'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
ObveeusInvid Fan

"Invid Fan" wrote:

I haven't seen anything to indicate that the producers aren't willing to take a pay cut to ensure more seasons. the writers and animators...well, that is another story entirely since those folks aren;t getting paid outrageous sums in the first place. If you work at McDonalds and they suddenly start making half as much money as they did 5 years ago, you would expect the CEO and VPs to take a pay cut, but not the fry cook.

Captain InfinityObveeus

Once Upon A Time, Obveeus wrote:

While they're at it they should fire about 90% of the writers, too. At most all is needed is one or two writers to churn out the crap the whole bullpen has been crapping out the past decade or so. That would save them, what, a couple of thousand dollars! And the show could go on as normal for another decade or two.

And what about the directors? How hard is it to point at the screen and say "Have Maggie suck her pacifier in this scene"? Barely takes even one guy!

** Captain Infinity ..."You're sitting there, happier than an idiot in Idiotland on 'Idiots Get In Free' day!" --Dick Solomon

ObveeusCaptain Infinity

"Captain Infinity" wrote:

I agree with that. The show simply isn't as good as it used to be. Like you said, though, they aren't going to realize any big cost savings by ditching writers.

Gerardo CamposObveeus

They did with the Latin-American Spanish dub, they fired the Mexican VA and hired Colombian VA, since they were less expensive.

Saludos Gerardo Campos
seapigDavid

Midwestern? We might not know what state Springfield is in, but how many Midwestern towns have their own squidport?

Jim G.David

David's article included the following on 10/4/2011 1:41 PM:

I just wanted to see this again.

Jim G. Waukesha, WI
Bob O'DyneDavid

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:41:14 -0400, David wrote:

Is it contract renegotiation time again already?

Ann's Little Brother Bob
Captain InfinityDavid

Once Upon A Time, David wrote:

"Almost as much" as Groening? Groening hasn't done shit for The Simpsons in twenty years.

** Captain Infinity

TravoltronDavid

In the past, I've been supportive of the voice cast's money demands. My argument basically boils down to: They're the only thing about the current Simpsons that doesn't suck.

On second thought, I'm wondering if some of that money going to the voice cast could be used to hire some decent writers. Perhaps some awesome animators and directors, too.

DuggyDavid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_of_the_Summer_Wine

"Last" lasted 31 years.

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DavidDuggy

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:17:17 -0700 (PDT), Duggy wrote:

Not hard to see why it's England's longest-running series, and today they're showing all seven episodes.

DuggyDavid

England's longest running sit-com.

Not longest running series.

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WiseguyDuggy

Duggy wrote in news:53af75f4-4281-44fc-becc- [email]:

They meant longest-running of series people have actually heard of.

Je�usWiseguy

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:03:32 GMT, Wiseguy wrote:

That's right - the known world begins and ends within the confines of usaian TV networks.

DuggyWiseguy

They didn't say that, though.

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WiseguyDuggy

Duggy wrote in news:8f95ce54-9406-40ee-9978- [email]:

It goes without saying. Hence, they didn't say it.

DuggyWiseguy

Really they're just confusing fact with opinion.

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