It's been a while since we've done this, and I'm wondering what a.t.s. thinks of season 12 compared to the rest of the series. Here's my ratings.
season 6 - A+ season 5 - A season 4 - A- season 8 - A- season 7 - B+ season 3 - B season 2 - B- season 9 - B- season 1 - C+ season 10 - C+ season 11 - D+ season 12 - D
On 12 May 2001 20:09:19 GMT, [email] (TheAbman) wrote:
I think season 12 is better than season 11
Seasons 10 & 11 were as bad as they get. Very very few episodes in those couple years worth watching again. But season 12 has been a pleasant surprise.
First of all, I think both seasons are the worst in Simpsons history because of wacky and boring stories, characters being lifeless and flat, and failed jokes. (There's no way season 12 can be as good as seasons 8 and 9, as some are implying).
Season 11 was a little better because there was a little less expositionary dialogue, less self-irony (only a few episodes last year were self-ironic, almost every episode this year makes fun of the writers' poor writing abilities and deals with some sort of weird conspiracy).Most importantly, season 11 episodes were more focused, with a certain theme. Episodes dealt with birth (Eight Misbehaving), death (Alone Again), religious showiness (Faith Off), self-esteem (Pygmoelian), alcoholism (Days of Wine and D'ohses), housekeeping (Little Big Mom), marketing (Grift of the Magi), being rich (The Mansion Family), rebels (Take My Wife Sleaze), fame (Hello Gudder). Of course, these issues had been dealt with before in previous seasons, in MUCH better ways, but even season 11's episodes was focused on its themes, and thus had sharper satire. In season 12, I don't even know what the episodes are about. Was New Kids on the Blecch about pop muisic or about the navy, and was it praising pop music or satirizing it? Skinner's Snese of Snow, Lisa the Treehugger, Hungry Hungry Homer, Simpson Safari, and Worst Episode Ever were also episodes that were VERY vague on what the writers were trying to accomplish. On the other hand, season 12 has had less wacky situations and weird plot twists. So season 11 is only slightly better than season 12.
I agree with you that both seasons should be considered as very very bad, but I�d say season 12 is slightly better than season 11 (grade D- for 11, grade D for 12) but still a disgrace to the show and to the early vision of Matt Groening.
Season 11 is total crap (most of it) while season 12 has good parts but many episodes are spoiled by wackyness, weird plot twists, pointless endings and a certain tastelessness.
Chris
TheAbman wrote:
Alrighty.
Season 4 - A+ Season 6 - A Season 5 - A Season 7 - A- Season 3 - A- Season 2 - B+ Season 1 - B Season 8 - B- Season 9 - B- Season 12 - B- Season 10 - C+ Season 11 - D+
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Season 4 Season 5 Season 6 Season 8 Season 7 Season 3 Season 9 Season 2 Season 12 Season 1 Season 10 Season 11
TheAbman wrote:
Okay, here's my list:
Season: 4: A+ 6: A 3: A 2: A 7: A- 1: A- 5: B+ 12: B (I know the longtimers are going to flame me on this one, but I don't care! This year's been a blast.) 9: B- 8: C+ 10 and 11 : D- (Both sucked)
Here�s my ratings
Season 2 - A+ Season 3 - A+ Season 1 - A - Season 4 - A - Season 7 - B + Season 6 - B Season 5 - B - Season 8 - C + Season 9 - C - Season 10 - D Season 12 - D Season 11 - D -
Chris
Chris Pfeiler wrote in message news:[email]...
thinks
Here are my ratings
Season 6 - A+ Season 5 - A Season 8 - A - Season 2 - B +++ Season 3- B + Season 9 - B Season 12 - B - Season 4 - C + Season 7- C - Season 10 - D Season 1 - D- Season 11 - F
you gave 12 a b-? wtf? this season sucks
simpsons used to be hilarious.. now it only causes a chuckle now and then (if we're lucky)
I agree with the sentiment that Seasons 10 & 11 were the worst, with very few good moments from either. Season 12 ranks above them both, though clearly not in the same range as Seasons 2-8, which most would pick as an inclusive range of the better seasons. I think Season 1 was pretty inconsistent, with some very funny episodes tossed together with some sitcom dreck. It's style is also so different that it's hard togroup with 2-8. 9 wasn't that bad, just not quite the consistency shown in 2-8.
Season 7 - A+ Season 5 - A+ Season 6 - A Season 4 - A Season 3 - A- Season 2 - B+ Season 1 - B Season 12 - B Season 9 - B Season 8 - B- Season 11 - C+ Season 10 - C
What's so wrong with season 12 anyway?
== Mike Reed
nothing, except maybe Mike Scully finally got it through his thick skull to produce some decent simpsons episodes.
i think this season has put the simpsons back on an upswing season 10 was definitely the down point but i dont think any of them deserve less than a c+. please so-called fans give it a break
The Abman wrote: << It's been a while since we've done this, and I'm wondering what a.t.s. thinks of season 12 compared to the rest of the series. Here's my ratings.
season 6 - A+ season 5 - A season 4 - A- season 8 - A- season 7 - B+ season 3 - B season 2 - B- season 9 - B- season 1 - C+ season 10 - C+ season 11 - D+ season 12 - D
Ok, here goes........
Season 3: A+ Season 4: A+ Season 2: A Season 5: A- Season 1: B- Season 8: C Season 7: C Season 6: C- Season 9: C- Season 12: C- Season 10: D Season 11: D-
Some of you may be shocked at the low rating of season 6 -- I know a few of you even had it at the top. I'm sorry, but I really feel that the show completely bottomed out in the last few weeks of that season. It started well, but episodes like "Bart's Comet", "Lemon of Troy", and "Lisa's Wedding" were absolutely terrible -- and "Round Springfield", and "A Star is Burns" were even worse. And if I'm not mistaken, "Radioactive Man" was a holdover from Season 6, and that may be my least favorite episode ever. I realize that not many of you will agree, but I really think the show hit rock bottom in the last few weeks of Season 6.
"Quality Shmality. If I had a TV show, I'd run that sucker in the ground."
Really? I know we are both fans of the classic seasons but here I don�t agree with you. "Lisa�s Wedding" is one of my all-time favourits and a hundred times better than the new Future episode "Bart to the Future". I also like "Lemon of Troy" for some reason.
Personally, I�d say season 5 is the worst of the first seven seasons and season 7 the closest to the classic years and thus the best. Season 6 is in the middle and IMO better than 5.
Chris