Too much strangling? - note to fans/creator/writers of 'All's Fair in Oven War' (FABF20)

S16E02 All's Fair in Oven WarretroDec 22, 2004, 7:54 PM ET5 weeks later18 posts by 9 posters
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Philippe Andrecheck

All's Fair in Oven War (FABF20)

Well, I've managed to get through seasons 1 through 4 of "The Simpson" on DVD - audio commentary.

To anyone hardcore fan who has also done this (and yes, I'm sure there are quite a few), I have one comment for your reactions (and to the writers and creator who may or may not be reading).

Throughout these DVDs, there is mention of the 'Homer strangling Bart rule - loosely observed it implies a 'massage' of the strangling by having Homer do it reflexively or impulsively or by having Bart get back at Homer or even by having something 'redeem' the strangling in a comical way.

However, I believe the show has finally become desensitized to its own rule - perhaps on purpose. In "All's Fair in Oven War" (episode FABF20), the strangling, or rather the true gratuity of it (at one point Homer strangles Bart for having questioned his motives for strangling his son) begins to disgust me.

Yes, I know, the Simpsons creator/writers are not infallible, but to use this kind of violence - and not somehow comment on it (even on its gratuity) was groundbreakingly horrifying. This is probably the first time (and I've grown up watching nearly every episode of the show) something on 'The Simpsons' has socked me. I have never written to any television show/producer/writer or what have you at any point in my life. This time, I just had to see if my reaction was unique.

Why do you think it was necessary, after 16 years of episodes alluding to and showing outright family violence, that Homer actually strangle Bart repeatedly throughout the show for no reason? Do the writer think we've missed the point? Are they purposely trying to shock us? If so, why? Reactions?

Most of the time I can decipher the intended meaning of a Simpsons gag/line/whatever, but with this string of strangling I am left cold and puzzled. Almost as if in this episode of the Simpsons, an evil streak permeates everyone and everything.

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andrew.upton4Yarn Spinner

Cartoons don't have any meanings - they're just a bunch of drawings to give you a cheap laugh ! ( or something like that ! - I'm paraphrasing here !! ) lol "Jesse Leon McCann" wrote in message news:[email]...

strangles

Philippe Andrecheckandrew.upton4

With all respect, Cartoons DO, obviously, have meaning. Does anyone have a reply that isn't just a verbatim rip-off of a Simpsons one-liner? Can anyone here think for themselves? Seriously...am I to assume that no one cares/was affected by this but me?

"andrew.upton4" wrote in message news:Unzyd.104$[email]...

NitesbanePhilippe Andrecheck

"Philippe Andrecheck" wrote in message news:jJVyd.30372$[email]...

Nobody here is so uptight that they'd get their panties in a wad over a cartoon "strangling" some other cartoon...well, maybe Xino.

Philippe Andrecheckandrew.upton4

With all respect, Cartoons DO, obviously, have meaning. Does anyone have a reply that isn't just a verbatim rip-off of a Simpsons one-liner? Can anyone here think for themselves? Seriously...am I to assume that no one cares/was affected by this but me?

"andrew.upton4" wrote in message news:Unzyd.104$[email]...

Captain InfinityPhilippe Andrecheck

The Time Has Come, Philippe Andrecheck said To Talk Of Many Things...

I'm pretty sure that's the case. Homer strangling Bart is funny. They were just milking the joke. Maybe they used the callback too often for it to continue to be funny in that episode. I don't see it as having any greater significance.

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Why Am I here?Captain Infinity

"Captain Infinity" wrote in message news:[email]...

That joke has gone from "milking" to "nipple twister."

Yarn SpinnerPhilippe Andrecheck

I can think for myself. I was just trying to lighten the mood, since the original poster's question was so heavy-handed. However, I don't really have an answer to the question. It's a matter of taste. Sometimes I think the stranglings are a bit much, and don't play. Sometimes the stranglings add to the humor of the situation.

If the original poster needs validadtion for feeling disgust, however, I think he should seek the help of a different kind of newsgroup.

And-- Look, Smithers! Garbo is coming!

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Philippe AndrecheckYarn Spinner

Thanks for the replies.

Not knowing any of you, nor you me, I cannot assume why you would think I am uptight. In fact, I'm not...It's just, I suppose, that after 16 years of seeing Bart getting strangled I just don't (nor have I ever for that matter) find it funny.

I wanted to see if others were affected, in ANY way, by this - either because the joke fell flat or didn't play well or because they've always considered this funny or not (the strangling).

BTW, if by heavy-handed you meant serious, then I agree. It was on purpose. What can I say...I depend on the brilliance of the Simpsons to make me laugh (maybe because I really am TOO serious...or am I? ;)

Oh, and how is it that Family Guy can be 'resurrected' (not a show I watch regularly) and Futurama (one of my all time favourites) cannot? Or can it? Does anyone know how or why Fox brought back FG and how we might do this (for those who'd care to) for Futurama?

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Captain InfinityPhilippe Andrecheck

The Time Has Come, Philippe Andrecheck said To Talk Of Many Things...

You're welcome.

Glad to hear it.

It's just you. It's funny.

Get over yourself.

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Captain InfinityPhilippe Andrecheck

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Touche.

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Why Am I here?andrew.upton4

"andrew.upton4" wrote in message news:Unzyd.104$[email]...

give

Just like people who like using overused quotes?

andrew.upton4Why Am I here?

That quote is over - used ?? D'OH !

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