Why does Chief Wiggum live next door to Dr. Hibbert?

Dec 23, 2004, 9:01 AM ET73 posts by 18 posters
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Ostap Bender

In the episode with Funzo, Bart and Lisa go caroling so Homer can steal the toy. And we soon discover that the Wiggum's live next to the Hibberts!

Why would a rich doctor live next to a police officer?

I hope someone was reprimanded harshly for that blunder.

Aaron HirshbergOstap Bender

steal the

Hibberts!

Maybe it was necessary for the plot. If Hibbert lived further away, Homer would have complained about walking so far. WHO GIVES A @#$%? Xpace Mvxevm

Michael BlackAaron Hirshberg

Don't you mean it was done for budgetary considerations? If they didn't live next door for this scene, then the animators would have had to draw more of the Simpsons walking, or draw a car taking them to the next house.

Michael

Xino KinerOstap Bender

"Kino Xiner"

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Very friggin hilarious, Mr. AgentOrangeCleaner.

XINO

Ostap BenderXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

This is the torture you put us through!!!

Xino KinerOstap Bender

"AgentOrangeCleaner"

Look, sir, I have never impersonated another user by using a deceptive identity.

Also, I have NEVER asked a question or posted a comment so annoying that Mr. Hirshberg has had to use the @#$% word.

Also, nobody has ever referred to me as "torture". So whatever the problem is, it is with you.

Finally, what in bloody hell is wrong with a rich doctor living next to a police officer? Good God!!!

XINO

XPeepleXino Kiner

Huxxah!

Xhit? Axx? Bitxh? Xuck?

I xonxider it torture too, Xino. And, profexxor, quotex wrap around punctuaxion markx.

They're the original Odd Couple!

Uh... X.
Xino KinerXPeeple

punctuaxion

HOLD IT, XPeeple, you should've done your homework.

In this case the quotes would have wrapped around if the quotation were an indirect statement, such as:

Also, nobody has said, "Your posts are torture."

But I didn't quote a statement; I quoted only a WORD, for which the primary purpose being to emphasize the idiocy of the use of that specific word.

Look it up, professor, you'll see that the punctuation remains OUTSIDE of the quote marks.

Also, I'm telling you people, THE EARTH REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN!!!!

that

No, none of those. Reread the quote. He said, "@#$%."

DogWoofXino Kiner

In article , Xino Kiner wrote:

Yeah, but does it produce a sine wave?

Xino KinerDogWoof

"DogWoof"

We discussed this already. It does not.

XINO

XPeepleXino Kiner

This is not true with periods or commas; a question mark, colon or exclamation point, yes, but not with non-value characters. I took a few minutes to check this against an old reference guide and the only case I've seen wherein a period or such wouldn't go inside the quote would be if it were followed by an academic footnote or whatever: It was true that many found Mr. Kiner to be quite a "jackass" (SIMPSON 47). Otherwise the quotations wrap around the punctuation.

Xino KinerXPeeple

"XPeeple"

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Sir, I would really ask that you check another reference since the one you are using is obviously either wrong, incomplete, or you misread it

I am using Harbrace College Handbook Thirteenth Edition (1998). Page 218 section 20f clearly demonstrates that I am correct.

What reference are you using, and is it American? (possibly makes a difference... I really don't know honestly.)

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

***ROFLMAO*** Wanker.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

pfft. Exactly how am I being ignorant? What am I ignoring?

Xino KinerMark Wilson

Uhhhh... the fact that I'm correct about the punctuation.

IDIOT

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

a) IN YOUR OPINION

b) I don't know that you ARE right. That poxy reference could have been made up for all I know. So I'm not *ignoring* anything. Whether or not you are right remains to be proven.

XPeepleXino Kiner

I generally use the standard Associated Press format, which I was trained in. You've wasted my precious time again, as I've had to check my AP Stylebook to find that indeed periods go inside quotations even with one word only, which I was fairly certain of anyway. I've honestly never seen anyone put a period outside a quotation mark and claim to be correct about it before.

Herb KauhryXPeeple

I've never seen an explanation of why this is deemed correct in the first place. Since the period is relevant to the sentence, not to the thing in quotes, it's (at best) counterintuitive. But then, English is such a Rube Goldberg language, so why should logic apply? Do you remember the rule "i before e except after c?" This just seems wrong to me, in a couple of different ways.

"XPeeple" wrote in message news:[email]... > >> >Look it up, professor, you'll see that the punctuation remains OUTSIDE of
Captain InfinityHerb Kauhry

The Time Has Come, Herb Kauhry said To Talk Of Many Things...

Shouldn't that be "I before e except after c."?

** Captain Infinity ..."Without the love, it's just a ball of meat." --Marie Barone

Herb KauhryCaptain Infinity

Details, details.

"Captain Infinity" wrote in message news:[email]... > Shouldn't that be "I before e except after c."? >
Mark WilsonHerb Kauhry

"Herb Kauhry" wrote in message news:[email]...

wrong to me, in a couple of

Example: society.

SparkyMark Wilson

Mark Wilson wrote:

Good example: receive

Counter example: weird

As someone pointed out, English is the melting pot of languages and horribly irregular.

FunkySparky

Their and so many other words, I always wondered where the hell that saying came from. I also wonder why Americans remove the u from words like labour and colour

Captain InfinityFunky

The Time Has Come, Funky said To Talk Of Many Things...

Because their presence is an abouminatioun.

** Captain Infinity ..."Without the love, it's just a ball of meat." --Marie Barone

XPeepleCaptain Infinity

Well, if they're giving presents, they should be brought back!

Twenty2222Funky

the whole poem goes "I before E, except after C and when sounded as A as in neighbor and weigh"

I know it doesn't help in the examples you cited...

20-2222

XPeepleTwenty2222

If memory serves, there's actually more exceptions to the poem's rule than applications.

XPeepleHerb Kauhry

As someone said in this thread already, it may be rooted completely in the fact that a comma or period might fall off the old printing press letter lines (many 19th Century volumes have this all over the place). Personally I think the period and commas are nonvalue characters in that they won't change the meaning, context or connotation of a word, as opposed to a question mark or exclamation point, so putting a period or comma inside a single-word quote is fine. But it's also that it's mimicking the syntax for a direct quote, wherein the period would go inside.

For the record, I'm fairly certain that the "i before e" rule actually has more exceptions than it does applications. :-P

Also, I'd just like to say thanks for making me feel like in a freshman year college writing class again--the Rube Goldberg references and all!

AndyXPeeple

I think the only time this is correct is when doing a citation. If you are quoting from an article/book then you write the quotes, without any period within, and then in parentheses put either the specific source, or the page of the book, followed by the period. At least that's what I was taught in school, and my English teacher kept telling us for every essay that we did.

Example: "The boy didn't kill him, I did" (74).

XPeepleAndy

Yes; the "jackass" example above was mine.

Xino KinerXPeeple

"XPeeple"

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Actually sir I just did some research on the Internet and have discovered that we are both correct. Putting the period inside the quotes is the general American stanadard, whereas the British tend to put the period outside. The British way in my opinion is more logical since there should not be punctuation if no complete indirect statement is made. Obviously I was trained in the British way, despite that I am an American.

BTW if research is a waste of time then maybe you should get a life.

Matt GarveyXino Kiner

Xino Kiner wrote:

I agree that it's logical, but if I might make a side comment, I think you mean "direct statement" - "indirect statement" would be like the following sentence: Matt said that Xino could jump in a lake. Of course, as indirect statement is not verbatim, Matt might not have said those exact words. (He actually said Xino _should_ jump in a lake.)

Happy new year

Xino KinerMatt Garvey

"Matt Garvey"

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said Xino

Isn't a direct quote an indirect statement? The direct statement is "Matt said." The rest is all indirect, if I am correct.

If we're going to discuss grammar though we should at least use Simpons quotes in our examples to keep it on-topic. :-)

Same to you.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

Why do you keep calling people "sir"? You sound so pretentious.... lol

Xino KinerMark Wilson

"Mark Wilson"

That's called using manners. People who aren't pompous asses have manners.

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

manners.

That's fine, but calling people "sir" ?! How old *are* you? BTW: you are the one looking like the pompous ass here, by sparking a whole OT thread on somebody's GRAMMAR on USENET. Loser.

Xino KinerMark Wilson

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Mark YOU IDIOT, XPEEPLE STARTED THE OT THREAD, NOT ME!!! Don't blame me for shit I didn't do. Look at XPeeple's post on December 24 and you'll see.

So by your own reasoning, you are calling XPeeple a pompous ass.

Anyone of any age can call any man of any age sir.

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Sir Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

Temper....

and you'll see.

Fine. I don't really care either way, because XPeeple isn't annoying me half as much as you are with your insatiable desire to be the world's greatest linguistics expert, and your constant desire to be right all the time.

No. I was talking to you. Granted, I was wrong, but this doesn't change the fact that you are the pompous ass.

Anyone of any age can wear knee high socks with sandals too. What's your point? Next you'll be calling people "My learned friend".

Xino KinerMark Wilson

Wrong. Regardless of whether you were talking to me or not, you indicated that XPeeple was the ass of the thread. (only later me, in addition to XPeeple)

No, what's YOUR point? You're the one that indicated that there is a relation between the ages of the parties and one calling the other sir, not me.

Well I certainly won't be calling you "learned" anytime soon, my friend.

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

indicated

No. I did not say "XPeeple is an ass" nor did I say "Whoever it was that started this thread is an ass". I said (to you, Kiner) "You are the one who looks like the pompous ass..." I'm through discussing this.

not

My point is, just because anybody CAN do something doesn't mean that everybody DOES do it. Most people under 50 don't call people "Sir" in normal, everyday, informal conversation. (Unless of course it's kids talking to a teacher, or somebody talking to their boss etc.) We aren't living in the 19th century. lol

I won't lose any sleep over it. ;-)

XPeepleXino Kiner

Calling someone a pompous ass isn't using manners very well.

Xino KinerXPeeple

Absolutely, I know, that's why I didn't call Mark a pompous ass.

Although sometimes I admit I am very tempted. For now though I think I'll just call him "Word-of-day Calendar": pretentious, pedantic, entered.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

Pretentious and pedantic? I think these are words people associate with yourself. Sir. And in what sense are you using "entered" to describe me?

Xino KinerMark Wilson

Ugh. Does anyone else care to explain this to him?

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Sir Isidro Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

Yes, somebody please do......

Anyone......???
Anyone at all......????

(btw, I did get your Simpsons reference [Carl with his word a day calender..."Mr. Burns has just......entered"], I was simply toying with you. You are too easy to bait, Isidro.)

Today's word: Gullible

Matt GarveyMark Wilson

Mark Wilson wrote:

Wait a minute...that's not in my dictionary!

Xino KinerMark Wilson

"Mark Wilson"

Yeah right, nice save, whatever.

Besides I said calendar, not calender. They are two entirely different things.

I ask politely only once more. Do not call me Isidro. My given nickname is Xino.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Isidro Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

Oh get a life or get fucked, Kiner. Like I said before - NOBODY GIVES A FLYING DUCK. Maybe the fact that you anally pick apart people's posts, correcting their spelling at every turn, is why you are so unpopular here. That, and the fact that you do the same thing to various episodes of The Simpsons.

is

Eat my shorts, Isidro.

Captain InfinityMark Wilson

The Time Has Come, Mark Wilson said To Talk Of Many Things...

I like Xino's posts. They're entertaining. As are yours.

** Captain Infinity ..."Once you get used to the druggings, this isn't a bad place." --Marge Simpson

Mark WilsonCaptain Infinity

"Captain Infinity" wrote in message news:[email]...

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I do too - most of the time, but correcting somebody's spelling on usenet is a) Conceited and b) A sign that you may be begining to lose the "flame".

Hey Xino - why don't you go and rent "Spellbound" again?

Xino KinerMark Wilson

"Mark Wilson"

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I was hoping to let this thread die but this last post had me ROFLMAO.

First things first:

a) Usenet is capitalized. b) It's beginning, not begining. c) "Conceited" and "A" should not be capitalized.

I didn't realize that we were keeping track of who lost the arguments. I disagree with your opinion that I lost this argument. In my opinion, YOU lost the argument because you were the first to resort to asking me to get fucked. In all the arguments that terminated with the loser name calling, telling the other to fuck off or get a life, or by other insults or personal attacks, I say that the score is approximately: Xino 10, Mark 0.

XINO

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Isidro Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

You never let anything die, Isidro. You are far to anal. In fact, I'll bet if we shoved a lump of coal up your arse, in 2 weeks we would have a diamond.

I knew you wouldn't be able to resist that. This is my whole point. You don't even realise that I am doing it on purpsoe od oyu? You are trying to discredit me by pulling apart my spelling and grammar, when at the end of the day, NOBODY CARES AT ALL!! I doubt YOU even care. Why are you such an anal prig? Are you trying to make yourself look good by correcting my spelling mistakes? Do you think that because you point out that I spell something wrong, that people will think I am an idiot and think that you are really cool and wonderful? You are only making yourself look like a snob

NEWFLASH: Everybody thinks we are both insane!

We aren't.

You would. I'd think you were weird if you didn't.

to asking me to get fucked.

I didn't ask. I told.

personal

Once again you miss the point. The argument was already over when you started nitpicking my spelling. There was nothing else for you to say, so you try to use my spelling mistakes to discredit me. Game over, Kiner. Me telling you to "get a life or get fucked" was after full time. Sorry buddy.

XPeepleXino Kiner

Then unless you were "trained" in the United Kingdom and are living there now, you are wrong, and have been wrong. It doesn't matter what you deem logical or not, it's an American standard and you're American. Ergo...

I do have a life outside this newsgroup, which is why I deemed actually hitting the books to correct your sorry ass the waste of time that it was.

Matt GarveyXPeeple

XPeeple wrote:

This actually seems to come from an old printing (type) convention more than anything stylistic, although it does look purty. I forget where I read it (I'm thinking straightdope.com?), but apparently the period and comma, being merely dots, were so weak that to put them outside the quotation marks would cause the type to break or something.

Being a computer guy as well also makes me lean toward that usage - you know, with string literals and so forth - but I'm not about to start a revolution just to get the punctuation where it logically belongs.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"The Original XINO" wrote in message news:[email]...

I thought it was :-)

Aaron HirshbergOstap Bender

steal the

Hibberts!

Why would two former Presidents of the USA buy houses across the street from a dimbulb like HOMER J SIMPSON?

Xpace Mvxevm

Duff ManAaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

Why would Xpringfield hire xuch a xtupid police chief to begin with?

Aaron HirshbergDuff Man

Duff Man, you are out of character. All that thrusting of your hips and all. You are supposed to say: "DUFF MAN thinks that SPRINGFIELD should not have hired such a STUPID POLICE CHIEF to begin with." Xpace Mvxevm

Ostap BenderAaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

Now YOU'RE out of character. You forgot to say "OH YEAHHH!"

SparkyOstap Bender

AgentOrangeCleaner wrote:

<pelvic thrust>

Duff ManAaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

Only Duff Man decides when Duff Man is out of character.

Oh yeah.

SparkyAaron Hirshberg

[email] wrote:

Well, we certainly can't refer to him in the first or 2nd person, can we?

FunkySparky

So we can't refer to Duff Man using words like you and him?

Mark WilsonAaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

Why would supposedly "human" cartoon characters have yellow skin and only 4 fingers?

SchizoidMark Wilson

"Why would someone wearing a shirt with Genioui at Work on it spend all his day watching a children's cartoon?"

--john

Mark WilsonSchizoid

"Schizoid" wrote in message news:35Xyd.279$[email]...

only

his

I withdraw my question. <opens up a Krusty Bar>

GymdandyOstap Bender

Because Darren Hayes already has two neighbors.

And if you can't live by Darren, I'm mean honestly who woud care otherwise?

SparkyOstap Bender

Kino Xiner wrote:

First of all, Wiggums is the Chief. Secondly, maybe Springfield isn't so regimented socioeconomically as your town.

If you're asking questions, why would 2 former presidents move in across the street from OFF? Hmmm?

PS: Maybe Hibbert isn't so rich? ;)