"Family Guy" may return to FOX

Nov 19, 2003, 12:53 PM ET31 posts by 22 posters
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David

from usa today

'Family Guy' may return By Gary Levin, USA TODAY

Baby Stewie could be staging a comeback. Family Guy could return with as many as 35 new episodes for January 2005.

In a sign of the growing importance of DVD sales to Hollywood, 20th Century Fox is considering a plan to resume production of Family Guy, a sometimes crude animated comedy that the Fox network took off the air more than 18 months ago.

As many as 35 new episodes could return in January 2005, marking the first time that a canceled series has been revived based on strong DVD demand and ratings in syndication.

Fox Television Entertainment Group chairman Sandy Grushow said a decision is expected soon and called the series a late-blooming phenomenon that may have aired before its time.

A DVD set of the show's first 28 episodes released in April has sold nearly 1 million copies, making it this year's top-selling TV show and the No. 4 television title ever, according to Video Store magazine. A second collection, of 22 episodes, has sold 520,000 copies. And the series is Cartoon Network's most popular among adults.

Family Guy premiered with a big audience � 22 million viewers � and some controversy after Fox's 1999 Super Bowl telecast. In the pilot episode, Stewie, a talking toddler with a clipped British accent, was openly contemptuous of his loutish dad and bent on killing his sweet-natured mother in a quest for world domination.

Creator Seth MacFarlane, then 24, wrote scripts, drew characters, provided voices and infused the show with rapid-fire sight gags, a nod to The Simpsons. But ratings faded, and the show ended with a whimper early last year.

The relatively short network run may have helped DVD sales, Video Store's Judith McCourt says. "It really speaks to something that had a following, was cut off network TV, and people said, 'What did I miss?' "

DVD and cable viewers have "created kind of a groundswell that could lead to better ratings" on Fox, Grushow says, although new episodes could end up going directly to Cartoon Network.

A decision to restart the show suggests a reversal from the old TV business model, in which a network hit predicts a profit windfall in syndication. This time, the promise of DVD and syndication gold could justify a show's return even if low network ratings didn't.

But canceled favorites aren't likely to rise from the grave en masse. Family Guy has one major advantage: With no actors and no sets, it can simply be drawn back into existence.

Matt AckeretDavid

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Woohoo!

I sure hope all of the new episodes are actually *made* and end up on DVD, after Fox starts running them and pulls it after 6 weeks, saying the ratings aren't as high as they had expected!

StefanOrson Wells as CitizenCain

"Alex Cain" wrote in message news:1069308204.998670@rh9cache...

Reports are now saying it may be new episodes on Cartoon Network, not Fox.

Stefan

Orson Wells as CitizenCainStefan

"Stefan" wrote in message news:Hd5vb.11745$P%[email]...

Which is probably better, since FOX would just butcher the episodes or keep on pre-empting them. Cartoon Network knows how to treat a good show. See : basically any program on Adult Swim.

DavidOrson Wells as CitizenCain

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:45 -0500, "Alex Cain" wrote:

You mean the way they wait 2 years before airing any new episodes

Dr MusicOrson Wells as CitizenCain

"Alex Cain" wrote in message news:1069367977.93883@rh9cache2...

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The problem is Cartoon Network cannot be seen north of the border (unless you have an illegal US satellite system.) I don't have to tell you how chagrined I was when the afternoon airings of Family Guy and Futurama on TBS came to an abrupt end.

Yes, FG is on Teletoon in Canada, but last time I checked, they only had the first two seasons.

Yours truly, Some bozo http://fingerlickingood.0catch.com
ExatronOrson Wells as CitizenCain

Alex Cain wrote:

Which really doesn't help "Family Guy" since it's clearly as far from good as anything can get.

Exatron "Strive for perfection even if others must suffer." - Hook The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
Dr MusicExatron

"Exatron" wrote in message news:[email]...

When will people learn to respect other people's opinions?

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Larry BernardDr Music

"Dr Music" wrote in message news:pcgvb.444773$6C4.555@pd7tw1no...

Alex Cain is a Troll

And like most Usenet trolls he is a loser

he will say these things to get a reaction from people like you

Dr MusicLarry Bernard

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a. I was replying to Exatron, not Alex Cain b. I'm not some AOL-using newbie. I've been around Usenet for some time, and I've read enough of Alex Cain's postings to have determined he's not a troll. Well, I guess it depends on your definition of troll. He posts extremely negative comments just to get a rise out of people, so to some, I guess that makes him a troll. But I've also seen a spark of intelligence in his rants, so to me, that puts him a cut above.

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Tony CalguireDavid

You gotta love that revisionist history! Anything to cover their asses...

Where do they get this stuff? Nobody "missed" anything! They all saw it the first time. The show had an audience; the problem was Fox's refusal to schedule it on a regular basis, the frequent pre-emptions and timeslot changes. Fox was bound and determined to see it cancelled, and they succeeded. The audience was simply unwilling to play the game of "follow the show around the schedule".

You'd be surprised how many people will watch a TV show when they know it will be on every night at 11 o'clock, and won't be pre-empted for a "Simpsons" rerun.

DavidTony Calguire

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:14:04 -0600, Tony Calguire wrote:

Speaking of revisionist history...

FOX let the show run for 3 years even though the ratings stunk. It was even given a summer run when there was very little competition and the ratings still stunk. And the critics blasted it, giving FOX even less of an incentive to keep it around, and yet they did for way longer than a show doing this badly is usually allowed to stink.

Is it a hit on Cartoon Network? Yes. Kind of like Conan O'Brien is a hit in late-night. They both have loyal frat-boy audiences but neither would do that great in primetime. They're big fish in small ponds and are better suited to cable or after midnight. Don't know what FOX is thinking here. And btw I like the show so I don't have a reason to trash it. But I have to face reality.

Gieber GoldfarbDavid

[email] (David) wrote in message news:...

Remember what the TV critic for ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY wrote? Among other things: "Here is a worthy successor to Arli$ as The Awful Show They Just Keep Putting on the Air, a phenomenon as inexplicable as where Larry King gets all his suspenders. As long as they keep bringing back Family Guy, a hunk of ugly animation, I'll keep using it to line the bottom of this barrel."

As a FAMILY GUY hater I think he didn't even begin to describe what was wrong with this show. Like the fact that the animation was so bad and inexpressive that the characters literally had no distinctive facial expressions. (Peter's model sheet, 'tis said, had the same basic expression for every emotion.) Or the ripoffs of better shows that didn't get the same amount of hype, like PINKY AND THE BRAIN. Or the use of stupid '80s pop-culture references as a substitute for humor.

I'm starting to think of FAMILY GUY as the TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL of the younger generation -- the crappy show kept alive by the inexplicable attachment of a particular segment of the viewing audience.

Brett BuckGieber Goldfarb

Well, analysis aside, the DVD sold a huge number of copies in a short period of time, and new episodes would sell more DVDs. So it may be, heaven forfend, a MONEY thing!

Additionally, the job of TV critic is really becoming outdated - TV, today, is about finding niche audiences of the desired demographic. Widespread appeal is no longer a requirement, and therefore a single individual pontificating on the topic of stuff like "poor animation quality" have clearly missed the point - Peter's lack of variable expression *is part of the gag*, not an example of poor craftsmanship. Some (apparently enough) people get the idea to make it profitable, and that's why the idea of bringing it back seems to have some appeal.

Brett

Chris ®Brett Buck

And Family Guy will do great for that 18-35 male demographic the network suits love. Given all the hype FG has had in syndication, including legions of new fans, I predict better ratings for the new eps, if the show is given a stable timeslot (not Sunday at 7 PM, etc!) and is marketed only half as much as FOX marketed "The OC" and the recently cancelled "Skin".

Besides, TV history is littered with shows which were critical duds and ratings successes (Gilligan's Island, Love Boat) and shows which were critical hits but ratings disasters (My So Called Life).

Now, if only the same could be done for Futurama ....

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.

ExatronBrett Buck

Brett Buck wrote:

"Family Guy" has nothing to get. It's fans are just too stupid to know any better.

Exatron "A look can be deceiving; a touch can be lethal." -Smokescreen The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
The Midnight BomberDavid

[email] (David) wrote in message news:...

The rating sucked on Fox because they kept bouncing it around the schedules...it had its peak on sunday nights right after The Simpsons, but Groening whined because he wanted Futurama after.

Matt Groening = HHH of Fox.

Simpsons still rocks a llama's ass though...

sega_addictDavid

I don't know if I agree with that. When reruns of a show that the diehard fans had already seen managed to grab almost 1.1 million people on a cable network that has never remotely seen success like that, there's something to be said.

Davidsega_addict

On 20 Nov 2003 09:30:26 -0800, [email] (sega_addict) wrote:

If it's enough of a cult hit than the audience could be rabid enough to support it that much on cable. It's like when "Mutant X" or "Andromeda" sell a million DVDs, which doesn't indicate that these shows would be popular enough to succeed in primetime.

zvoidxTony Calguire

Tony Calguire wrote in message news:...

The possibility could also exist that there have been enough "media cycles", (years of tv shows/knowing how audiences react/research, etc.), throughout the years that they intentionally pulled it, knowing they were planning on bringing back anyway. Think Star Trek. Once the short-lived show, (3 seasons), was gone it became a "classic" and then everyone loved it. Other shows were eventually spawned from this cancelled/revived series. So, maybe they pulled Family Guy, (knowing it already had alot of buzz), to only bring it back and make it huge. It's kind of like a pressure cooker right now; once the new episodes are released, people are going to jump all over it.

I am not saying that this is definitely the case...but just a possibility to consider.

hogfatzvoidx

"zvoidx" said:

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hopefully as the main subject in critical analyses on what not to do in a(n animated) series.

and, unless they drop everyone but stewie and brian, realize even more how horrible the show truly was.

or maybe the fox executives were smart and realized they couldn't let crap permeate the airwaves. at the very best, the majority of family guy was an endlessly irritating parody of parodies; with some vulgarity thrown in for the twelve year olds that get off on that sort of thing. it was a show almost exclusively composed of alternate jokes from the worst of its contemporary simpsons' moments. rarely did it show depth and even more rarely did it reach the levels of personality exhibited by the best half of the simpsons.

Sydney Assbaskethogfat

This is the network of Joe Millionaire and Temptation Island. Fox airs crap all the time.

The show really isn't striving for personality like The Simpsons. Many of the scenes and gags in FG go on a little too long, but there are also many that are hilarious, such as Peter stubbing his toe on something and then we see him crying, "Oh, ow, ouch, geez...!" for about 30 seconds.

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zvoidxhogfat

"hogfat" wrote in message news:...

Well, my comment wasn't about the actual content of the show. It was about how popular the show was/could be...despite whether it's good or not. An example of this being popular music. If some crappy alternative band gets on stage, with out-of-tune guitars, off-key singing, out-of-time players - but the kids love it, and their music sells; you think the record label is going to step back and say, "Well, the kids love this music and are buying it up...BUT, WAIT...it's horrible and has no artistic integrity...let's get rid of this band." Yeh, right... If Family Guy has a substantial audience...through whatever methods or despite how good or bad it is...you think the people who are making money off of it GAF?

**Note: To further this point: People actually go through celebrity garbage, people sell it...and people actually buy it.

And BTW, I can find Family Guy entertaining, I just wanted to clarify what I was originally saying.

d w a c o nDavid

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They won't even need writers to replicate the "humor" of "Family Guy". "That's the worst reverse-acting I've ever seen!" -Sam Raimi
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