They need to fire Good Burger on 'Sit Down, Shut Up' before they cancel it

So annoyingly *not* a gruff 40-something Black female-sounding.

What's your point? ...Never met a 10 year old boy when I was 10 that sounded like Nancy Cartwright as Bart or any of the women that always got to play Charlie Brown. 227's Regina King doesn't sound even try to sound like a boy as Huey on Boondocks

"[email]" wrote in news:a4a5fa33-e450-4d49- [email]:

Uh, actual boys voiced Charlie Brown.

Except for the girl who voiced him, on the 90's episodes.

Derek Janssen wrote in news:V36Nl.113$[email]:

Didn't know that. Maybe they ran out of boys.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0153755

In article , Wiseguy wrote:

Schulz wasn't happy about it either.

Anim8rFSK wrote:

Schulz wasn't happy about the TV episodes in general, since he didn't have any control over them - especially when they broke one of his firm promises to his fans by not only drawing "the little red-haired girl" but giving her a name.

There's a reason adult women are cast as boys; if you cast boys (as Matt Groening's brother-in-law Craig Bartlett did for "Hey Arnold!"), they tend to have their voices change surprisingly quickly, so you have to find a new one every year or two and hope that either (a) the voice sounds close enough to the old one that nobody will notice, or (b) nobody is going to care.

-- Don

On Sat, 09 May 2009 15:28:55 -0700, Don Del Grande wrote:

And there's that child labor thingy.

OFF Fan wrote:

And that stops live-action TV shows from casting young boys as young boys in what way? (It's only a problem for really young kids, which is why twins are occasionally cast for a single part - the most famous example probably being Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen on "Full House".)

-- Don

On Sat, 09 May 2009 18:25:24 -0700, Don Del Grande wrote:

Because there are limits on how long a child may work (or even be on the premises) per day/week, and in many cases, their presence requires the presence of additional personnel on the set. If producers can get away with using a legal adult in a child role (be it live action or voice work), then they aren't subject to the hour and supervision restrictions, both of which can add costs and delays to the production schedule.

In article , Don Del Grande wrote:

How did he come to not have control over one segment?

Yeah, but they were casting kids as the Peanuts characters, with the same result. That was one of the things I always disliked most about the Peanuts cartoons; the voices always sounded like kids trying to act, and not kids talking.

Anim8rFSK wrote:

I don't know what you mean by "one segment". Technically, the strip's syndicators own the rights to the characters.

There's an explanation for this as well, especially in the early specials; a number of the kids they had hired hadn't learned how to read very well yet, so words were written out phonetically.

It didn't help matters any that a large chunk of the dialogue comes word for word from the strips, and they were pieced together in ways that made it sound less like dialogue (Sally's "speech" near the end of "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown" comes to mind).

-- Don

To me, that's always how I imagined the characters:

If Sally had been voiced by a polished Sitcom Kid, she'd be obnoxious... But since Schulz's strip concept was that little kids were making adult-sized philosophical insights, it just FIT to have real kid voices that sounded as if they'd only just now half-figured out their Deep Observations, and weren't quite sure what they were saying themselves. Again, read out Sally's "How about tens and twenties?" letter from "Christmas" in a regular delivery, and see how it plays.

In article , Derek Janssen wrote:

But that's not what it sounded like. It didn't sound like little kids talking; it sounded like little kids trying out for the school play.

In article , Anim8rFSK wrote:

Spot on.

Derek Janssen asked about the initial header.

"Good Burger" is a reference to Kenan Thompson (who voices the principal on SDSU), who got his start on the Nickelodeon series "All That" before joining the Saturday Night Live cast. One of the running sketches on the show was a fast food hamburger restaurant called "Good Burger" that starred Thompson and Kel Mitchell (it also became a theatrical release movie).

-- Don

On May 10, 7:05 pm, Don Del Grande wrote:

Family Guy had 2 pretty funny GB references.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119215/movieconnections

It'll be more remembered than this disaster cartoon series. I don't think GB was even *that* remembered.

Don Del Grande wrote:

I know what it IS (heaven help me), we just didn't know what episode Taylor was having when he wrote it-- He's getting a bit more erratic these days. 0_o??

In article , Don Del Grande wrote:

One version of the show, and not another.

That would explain a lot. I mean, they stumbled over "Charlie Brown" damn near every time.

Anim8rFSK wrote:

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I was under the impression that he didn't have any real say in any of the animated shows. He once even said that a number of people thought that The Little Red-Haired Girl had been drawn on TV before (in the "school's out" crowd scene at the end of "You're in Love, Charile Brown"), but he said that he didn't do it.

(I have crossposted this to rec.arts.animation as they seem to have the experts when it comes to this sort of thing.)

-- Don

In article , Don Del Grande wrote:

Ah, okay, I misunderstood. Thanks!

I remember an interview with him when he knew he was dying, and he said they wouldn't do any more shows after he was gone, and Melendez said, yes, he would. Douchebag.

This last (?) episode is doing nothing but refrencing 2 dozen '80s movies! C'mon!

Fire GoodBurger, too. He sounds NOTHING like a Black lady. Go smoke some reefer, GoodBurger.