Lisa and HOMR

S12E09 HOMRretroNov 8, 2002, 8:53 PM ET2 years later18 posts by 8 posters
18 posts
Cawuku1

So Lisa reckons that she can only be closer to Homer if he's intelligent? Duh!!

Lisa must realise (with all that 'wisdom') that people are different. Marge is motherly, Bart is mischievous, Homer is stupid. That's the way it is. Lisa's just some bitch with no friends who believes that her father must be like her so she can cease succumbing to self-pity by being unpopular.

KnownCawuku1

"Cawuku1" wrote in message news:[email]...

Marge is

Lisa's

her

It's a cartoon.

JD44-C84XKnown

["Known"; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 03:23:44 GMT]

That kind of logic has no place here.

JD44-C84X
Cawuku1Known

I know that, nonetheless is a discussion pertaining to the relationship between two characters in the show not warranted here?

Besides, how many other 'cartoons' were as intelligently written as the Simpsons? Damn, Dexter's Laboratory had killer character development and social commentary........

Benjamin RobinsonCawuku1

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Lisa and HOMR" thread, Cawuku1 wrote:

I'd say she's almost painfully aware of this. It's why she has such difficulty relating to her family, and they to her.

Actually, she has Janey and Allison, not to mention the teens she met in "Summer of 4 Foot 2 (3F22)."

She never said that her father had to be a copy of her. Let's face it, though; Homer has so little in common with is daughter it's almost inevitable that there would be this wide gulf between the two. I can see why Lisa thinks that if Homer were just a little smarter, or a little more sensitive, or even had a shared hobby (like jazz, maybe), the she and her could be closer.

Benjamin Robinson [email] This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide Greetings from Florida -- the pig-friendly state!
KnownBenjamin Robinson

"Benjamin Robinson" wrote in message news:[email]...

[email]

decide

It's a cartoon.

JamieKnown

how does the fact its animated rather than live action mean that it is less worthy of intelligent discussion?

KnownJamie

"Adrunk" wrote in message news:aqivir$6c3$[email]...

less

Because it's a cartoon.

Tom HawleyKnown

Bet this guy spends more time trolling usenet than I do reading it. Do I get a prize?

JamieKnown

what characteristics does a cartoon have which makes it unworthy for intelligent discussion and how exactly do these characteristics make it unworthy?

Liam DevlinJamie

It's a cartoon.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

JD44-C84XJamie

["Adrunk"; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:18:09 GMT]

Dude, stop wasting your time. That's obviously just a troll.

JD44-C84X
Markc65Known

Yes, but cartoons are better than live action...and don't you forget it, punk!!

Actually, Matt Groening, the writers and James L. Brooks all have the annoying habit of comparing The Simpsons to a live action sitcom (and sometimes even referring to it as live action), as though they are ashamed of the fact that the show is indeed an animated cartoon. I pity them...

Benjamin RobinsonMarkc65

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Re: Lisa and HOMR" thread, Markc65 wrote:

Yeah, animation is way better than ... whatever the alternative is.

Benjamin Robinson [email] This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide Greetings from Florida -- the pig-friendly state!
JD44-C84XKnown

["Known"; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 12:23:49 GMT]

What'd I tell you!

JD44-C84X
Cawuku1Benjamin Robinson

But in the episode Summer of 4' 2", Lisa states at the beginning that she HAS no friends (I guess it's just another flagrant disregard of continuity).

Benjamin RobinsonCawuku1

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Re: Lisa and HOMR" thread, Cawuku1 wrote:

Yeah, and I spent a lot of the first act wanting to yell, "She has friends, dammit!" But that would have screwed up the premise of the episode.

Benjamin Robinson [email] This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide Greetings from Florida -- the pig-friendly state!
JamieCawuku1

no.

she has tried numerous times to be closer to him and indeed many of these attempts have been successful. she realises he's different, and she accepts this (Make Room For Lisa). the HOMR thing just enabled them to bond on a different level than they had before, firstly because Homer could understand Lisa's woes with being excluded from society as a result of intellect, and secondly because it broke down the one thing that was holding them both back from bonding further : their vastly differing minds. And can you blame Lisa for being rather disdainful of Homer's attitude when he persistently forgets that he is supposed to actually care about her?