Lisa´s Substitute [Poll]

S02E19 Lisa's SubstituteretroJul 10, 2001, 3:43 AM ET10 years later33 posts by 22 posters
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Chris Pfeiler

As it seems to be a very controversial episode, I�m interested in what you think about "Lisa�s Substitute."

An outstandingly good episode     [    ]
An overrated episode                   [    ]
A very weak episode                   [    ]
Total crap                                  [    ]

What would you say? (I�d say "outstandingly good")

Chris

KatijaikatChris Pfeiler

Outstandingly good. The note that she received at the end of the episode still touches me.

Jake LenningtonKatijaikat

[email] (Katijaikat) wrote in message news:...

Agreed. It was, and still is, the best Simpsons episode of all time, IMO.

Jake

CharlieKatijaikat

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Can you please explain what the note meant ? I just dont get it. Sorry.

Charlie.

The RackCharlie

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still

"You are Lisa Simpson". Meaning she has value in and of herself.

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KatijaikatThe Rack

Awwww... your explanation is both accurate AND sweet.

...will YOU go to the prom with me?

It's very good, though I can't quite give it "outstandingly," cause of my own episodal biases. =]

It was certainly a breakthrough episode for the show, both in layoung out all sorts of framework for Lisa's character and also in setting multiple precedents for the show to follow. I remember reading that Matt Groening himself realized just how much potential The Simpsons had when "Lisa's Substitute" was produced.

I'm touched by the older (but not oldest) episodes. The jokes, while fewer in number, are better in content and execution, and the emotional value strikes chords in the mind and heart both.

~Josh

Charles AstwoodChris Pfeiler

An outstandingly good episode

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Darth AradaCharles Astwood

Outstandingly good. "You are Lisa Simpson." Scully translation: "Mmm... hug."

~Paul Melnyk, too Laozi to come up with a witty nickname. "An autocrat is a facist that's loved, a dictator is a fascist that's hated."

Chris PfeilerDarth Arada

There�s one standard Scully translation for every emotional dialogue between Lisa and Homer "Not now, honey. Daddy is busy."

Chris

TheAbmanChris Pfeiler

I'd put it between outstandingly good and overrated.

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F18fettTheAbman

I don't remember that episode much, it was a while ago when I saw it. It was kind of boring though I think..

Steve HowarthF18fett

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Surely not - this is one of the very best Simpsons episodes. It just goes to show what the writers can do with a reasonably simple idea. In particular, it proved you don't need the crass "Here's the verbal wise-crack, and now here's the visual to it" style "humour" we are getting too much of these days.

Steve Howarth
F18fettSteve Howarth

Actually, the last time I saw that episode was elementary school. Plus I prefer more humor than touchy-feeliness.

TrabpukcipChris Pfeiler

On 10 Jul 2001 07:43:02 GMT, [email] (Chris Pfeiler) wrote:

Outstandingly good, but in a way depressing, cuz I know they will NEVER make an episode even close to that anymore. That's pretty much true for all the season 2-4 episodes. Oh wait, that's a whole other thread right there.

Perfect balance of heartwarming sentimentality with comedy . Homer's reconciliation speech was particulary good I forget the exact line but something like "I know one day you'll be hanging out with smart people like you and guys like me will be serving drinks" (I know I horribly mangled that line) Then his consoling speech to Bart "Let the baby have his bottle " (about Martin winning the election) That Homer is dead and buried I think, the new Homer is a pale shadow of that one.

Oh well...

Chris PfeilerTrabpukcip

Sad but true. But this thread made me a little happy because there seem to be many other people who consider 7F19 as classic masterpiece, so I�m not the only one :-)

Chris

Ostap BenderChris Pfeiler

Chris Pfeiler wrote in :

So this is what it feels like when doves cry.

JohnChris Pfeiler

It was snacktacular!

John

Those who think, find the world comic. Those who feel, find it tragic.

Ostap BenderChris Pfeiler

Chris Pfeiler wrote in :

Loved it, despite the absence of flubber, glayvin.

Seriously, though. It was good, but certainly not the best of the Simpsons. It did the sentimental part great, but wasn't the best in the departments of humor, satire, incisive commentary and such. And what makes Simpsons great for me is the whole package.

The RackOstap Bender

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Exactly. *That's* why I say "overrated". Why can't it be all things to all people? ;)

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Mike ReedThe Rack

The Rack wrote:

(staring straight ahead) And maybe to one lucky girl. Will you go to the prom with me?

== Mike Reed

The RackMike Reed

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[Sprays Mike Reed with pepper]

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Dr MusicKatijaikat

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One squirt and you're south of the border!

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Jake LenningtonDr Music

drmusic wrote:

Must've been a long night....oh, wait, wrong NG.

Ostap BenderThe Rack

The Rack wrote in :

I don't think it's overrated. For what it is, it's great. But this "it" is more like a deviation from "The Simpsons"' it than its highest point.

Chris PfeilerThe Rack

I hope you watch it uncut. According to the snpp guide the syndication version is heavily cut: 93 seconds including some of the best lines and important scenes (e.g. the sax scene when Lisa plays in front of school.)

That fits into my theory that syndication cuts can ruin an episode and also the public opinion about an episode. Thank God for the upcoming season 2 DVD.

Chris

The RackChris Pfeiler

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I have all eps uncut on tape. But yes; I will see it uncut. Perhaps tonight :)

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AlexThe Rack

I LOVED "Lisa's Substitute"- it's one of my all-time favourites, but I

personally feel that it was beaten by "Lisa's Pony"; I just can't get enough

of Homer working at the Kwik-E-Mart!

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Didn't anyone else love the quote in "Round Springfield"? :

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Homer: "Well, it's like the time that your cat Snowball got run over."

Lisa: "Uh huh."

Homer: "Remember, honey?"

Lisa: "Yeah."

Homer: "What I'm saying is, all we have to do is go down to the pound and get a new jazzman!"

Lisa: [wailing] "Oh, Dad!" [weeps]

Homer: "Oh, I blew it again."