Al Jean vs. Harry Shearer

Aug 11, 2004, 12:37 PM ET14 posts by 12 posters
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Ken Carriere

Here's a longer piece regarding you know what...

http://nypost.com/entertainment/28782.htm

August 10, 2004 -- 'SIMPSONS" voice Harry Shearer says the show's run out of gas. But the producer of the all-time record-setting comedy says it's Shearer who's full of gas.

Shearer, who voices "Simpsons" characters Mr. Burns, Smithers and Ned Flanders, said this week that he believes the show has run its course and that he'd "rather not be there now.

"It makes me sad," Shearer told the Irish Examiner.

His remarks seem to have set a fire on this side of the Atlantic.

"I don't know why I have to defend the quality of the show to Harry Shearer . . . he's a guy who's been a malcontent, in my view," Al Jean, "The Simpsons" long-time producer, told The Post yesterday.

"For someone earning millions off the show this year . . . I just think it's unfathomable for him to take a shot at us."

Shearer seemed to be most disturbed that his characters no longer have a lot to do on the show. Now they are just walk-on parts.

"They used to have whole scenes," he said. "Season four looks very good to me now. Fortunately, I'm doing a lot of other things."

"I ran season four and he wasn't happy then," Jean fired back. "I just think it's an insult to all of us who work so hard. Harry doesn't put in that much time [working on the show] compared to the writers and producers.

"I think this past season was great, and I'm just so shocked that he would say that."

Jean boasted that Dan Castellaneta, who voices Homer Simpson, won an Emmy yesterday for Outstanding Voiceover Performance for "Today I'm a Clown," the episode in which Krusty the Clown has a Bar Mitzvah (Castellaneta also voices Krusty).

Still, there is a history of bad feeling between the cast and the series producers.

Unlike traditional comedies, where the actors are seen and closely identified with their characters, the actors on "The Simpsons" are the voices - but not the faces - of the characters they play.

The show has reportedly grossed more than $1 billion for its studio, Fox, in advertising and merchandising. And the actors have sometimes felt they were not fully appreciated - or compensated - for their contributions.

For their part, the producers saw the actors as people who work on the show only part time.

In his Irish Examiner interview, Shearer also denied reports that he and his co-stars were threatening to strike if they didn't get pay raises.

"We were never on strike," he said. "The day those stories appeared, I was at Fox doing vocal services for that week's show.

"What I can say is that it's possible to make a very nice living and still get totally screwed."

Shearer and his co-stars reportedly pull down over $250,000 an episode.

"The Simpsons," which debuted in 1989, is the longest-running animated show in TV history and one of the most influential shows in pop-culture history.

Other "Simpons" voices include Julie Kavner (Marge), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Nancy Cartwright (Bart) and Hank Azaria (Apu, Chief Wiggum and many others).

A "Simpsons" movie is also reportedly in the works.

Fox is a division of News Corp., which also owns The Post.

JackKen Carriere

http://nypost.com/entertainment/28782.htm

August 10, 2004 -- 'SIMPSONS" voice Harry Shearer says the show's run out of gas. But the producer of the all-time record-setting comedy says it's Shearer who's full of gas.

Shearer, who voices "Simpsons" characters Mr. Burns, Smithers and Ned Flanders, said this week that he believes the show has run its course and that he'd "rather not be there now.

"It makes me sad," Shearer told the Irish Examiner.

His remarks seem to have set a fire on this side of the Atlantic.

"I don't know why I have to defend the quality of the show to Harry Shearer . . . he's a guy who's been a malcontent, in my view," Al Jean, "The Simpsons" long-time producer, told The Post yesterday.

"For someone earning millions off the show this year . . . I just think it's unfathomable for him to take a shot at us."

Shearer seemed to be most disturbed that his characters no longer have a lot to do on the show. Now they are just walk-on parts.

"They used to have whole scenes," he said. "Season four looks very good to me now. Fortunately, I'm doing a lot of other things."

"I ran season four and he wasn't happy then," Jean fired back. "I just think it's an insult to all of us who work so hard. Harry doesn't put in that much time [working on the show] compared to the writers and producers.

"I think this past season was great, and I'm just so shocked that he would say that."

Jean boasted that Dan Castellaneta, who voices Homer Simpson, won an Emmy yesterday for Outstanding Voiceover Performance for "Today I'm a Clown," the episode in which Krusty the Clown has a Bar Mitzvah (Castellaneta also voices Krusty).

Still, there is a history of bad feeling between the cast and the series producers.

Unlike traditional comedies, where the actors are seen and closely identified with their characters, the actors on "The Simpsons" are the voices - but not the faces - of the characters they play.

The show has reportedly grossed more than $1 billion for its studio, Fox, in advertising and merchandising. And the actors have sometimes felt they were not fully appreciated - or compensated - for their contributions.

For their part, the producers saw the actors as people who work on the show only part time.

In his Irish Examiner interview, Shearer also denied reports that he and his co-stars were threatening to strike if they didn't get pay raises.

"We were never on strike," he said. "The day those stories appeared, I was at Fox doing vocal services for that week's show.

"What I can say is that it's possible to make a very nice living and still get totally screwed."

Shearer and his co-stars reportedly pull down over $250,000 an episode.

"The Simpsons," which debuted in 1989, is the longest-running animated show in TV history and one of the most influential shows in pop-culture history.

Other "Simpons" voices include Julie Kavner (Marge), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Nancy Cartwright (Bart) and Hank Azaria (Apu, Chief Wiggum and many others).

A "Simpsons" movie is also reportedly in the works.

Fox is a division of News Corp., which also owns The Post.

SawDustJack

lol... anytime an actor starts talking "creative differences" you know he's begging for more cash.

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Niu Mo WangJack

Here's the Irish Examiner story that started the fight:

http://breaking.examiner.ie/2004/08/05/story160340.html

I should point out that the Irish Examiner is run by drunken morons and is often misquotes people just to create controversy. (They made up a Mark Hamill hates George Lucas story a month or so ago.) They also are just flat out wrong at times. (They announced that the runner-up of American Idol was the winner.) I can post other examples, if anyone cares. Al Jean shouldn't have responded like this to a story that's likely falsified. *********************************************** Mr Burns' voice slams The Simpsons 05/08/2004 - 17:52:08

The actor behind The Simpsons' evil millionaire Mr Burns and Homer's annoying neighbour Ned Flanders has slammed the comedy, claiming the last three seasons of the hit animation have been the "worst".

Voiceover star Harry Shearer believes the 15-year-old show is beginning to run out of ideas and he is getting bored providing the speech for Flanders, Burns and his assistant Waylon Smithers, Reverend Lovejoy and Principal Skinner.

Shearer says: "It makes me sad. They used to have whole scenes. Season four looks very good to me now. I'd rather not be there right now. Fortunately I'm doing a lot of other things."

The This Is Spinal Tap funnyman has angrily denied reports the cast threatened to strike over a pay dispute earlier this year.

He explains: "We were never on strike. The day those stories appeared, I was at Fox doing vocal services for that week's show.

"What I can say is that's possible to make a very nice living and still get totally screwed."

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Paving MoratoriumWhy Am I here?

The voices all wanted to quit a few years ago. FOX said they would do the show without them. It would be horrible. The voices are now forced to stay even though they don't believe in the quality of the show anymore. Just as most fans of the series know it started to suck about 4 years ago.

XPeeplePaving Moratorium

Hardly. The quality of the series went down objectively when Mike Scully took over, which was *seven* years ago. His first three years produced what were probably the worst episodes the franchise has ever seen, yes, but the quality improved his fourth year, and the year after that, in which he left and Al Jean took over again, quality skyrocketed. Currently the show is coming out with some of the best episodes it's had since Season 8, IMO. The past four years have been pretty good, if you ask me--it was the three before that that were terrible.

RMRoseKen Carriere

It should also be pointed out that Shearer was viewed as a malcontent and whiner during his brief stint at SNL...I don't think he's very easy to get along with.

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AndrewjmilnerRMRose

When you read about the people who've run SNL, I don't blame Shearer for being a malcontent -- it's a highly dysfunctional place to work. But bitching now about drawing a $6 million salary for working four hours a week on The Simpsons does seem a bit excessive.

trentAndrewjmilner

I'll take Al Jean in a split decision.

trent

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Wally Balloutrent

On 2004-08-12 16:35:28 -0400, trent said:

I think Harry Shearer is more valuable than many people think, but he makes way too much to complain. He probably doesn't get a good enough table at certain restaurants compared to untalented movie stars or he has some other petty gripe. I like Le Show, and most other things he does, but he really is the quintessential "limousine liberal". I bet if you put this accusation to him he would say something funny about being in a limousine less often than the average college student, but he's way too rich to act like an underdog.

AndrewjmilnerWally Ballou

One other thing -- Shearer and his fellow SIMPSONS actors are guaranteed a share of the DVD and syndiation royalties. The animators in Korea aren't.

Shearer's not the devil, and it's possible his comments were taken out of context by the Irish reporter. But to paraphrase playwright Moss Hart, they are making a machine in California that will measure how little I care about Shearer's salary.

888eight888Andrewjmilner

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$250,000 an ep? So, I guess that's for all the characters....

Does Yeardly get as much Dan Castellanetta who does an s-load of voices?

Cause, if so, she's making out like a bandit. :P

XPeeple888eight888

Only Shearer, Castellanetta, Cartwright and Azaria make that per episode. Smith and Kavner's salaries are handled seperately and are in all likelihood much less.