Drama Behind The Scenes on The Simpsons

May 20, 2008, 3:48 PM ET19 posts by 15 postersalt.tv.simpsons
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MikeMalt.tv.simpsons

Still no deal for 'Simpsons' cast Production delay means 20-episode season By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER

Last week, Fox announced a fall schedule that included animated staple "The Simpsons" in its normal Sunday timeslot.

The hitch? There's still no deal with the voice talent behind "The Simpsons." And without one, the 20th season of the series could be in jeopardy.

While sources close to both the voice actors and 20th Century Fox TV are optimistic that they're on the road to a new deal, production on the show's 20th season has been on hold for months -- meaning the studio will probably produce just 20, rather than 22, segs next season.

Should a deal not be reached anytime soon, that number could be reduced further. Pacts are already in place with "The Simpsons" scribes and producer Gracie Films.

The key "Simpsons" cast members -- Dan Castellaneta (Homer), Julie Kavner (Marge), Nancy Cartwright (Bart), Yeardley Smith (Lisa), Hank Azaria (Moe) and Harry Shearer (Mr. Burns) -- are believed to make around $360,000 an episode. A new deal could bump that number closer to $500,000, including various bonuses. That's more in line with the paydays of many live-action sitcom stars (with the exception of bigtime leads like "Two and a Half Men's" Charlie Sheen).

The-already increased salaries could be why there doesn't appear to be the kind of angst that has characterized past negotiations between the "Simpsons" voices and 20th.

"Unlike the last negotiations, there hasn't been a lot of anger or frustration," one insider said.

Production was also halted in 2004 when the cast members didn't show up for two table reads. Back then, they were looking to increase their salaries from $125,000 an episode.

In 1998, the thesps (who were then making just $30,000 a seg) asked for a big raise -- and 20th went as far as hiring casting directors in five cities to potentially find replacements.

This time out, insiders said the talent is looking for a "healthy bump," given the show's history as a money-making machine for News Corp. (Coincidentally, the "Simpsons"-themed ride, which features the thesps' voices, opens this weekend at Universal Studios' Hollywood and Orlando locations.)

The voice talent have traditionally argued that they're asking for a relatively small piece of the "Simpsons" pie given its status as a global phenom worth several billions of dollars. Indeed, via syndication, international, licensing and merchandising, among other things, "The Simpsons" has been invaluable to the conglom.

But the fewer fireworks accompanying this round of negotiations may also stem from mutual acknowledgment that "The Simpsons," like everything on TV, hasn't been immune to broadcast's rapid viewership erosion. With ratings down, the show isn't bringing in the same kind of revenues it once did. The talent will likely get their pay increase even as the show becomes less of a cash cow.

If a deal isn't made soon, whatever gains the talent may ultimately secure could be tempered by the fact that fewer episodes are produced.

One optimistic insider said it could all be resolved as soon as this week.

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"Mike M" wrote in message news:[email]...

How about this.

CANCEL THE SHOW!!! Put a bullet in this dog's head.

TaylorMikeMalt.tv.simpsons

That's awfully GREEDY of them! They're on a decrepit, creatively-tired show that's lasted nearly (((2 decades)))... that's 2 decades of royalties from syndication AND any DVD sales and now they want (((more))) money. Bastards should get the carpet pulled out from under them; cancel it.

I bet that sick kooky Scientologist Nancy Cartwright is behind it. You *can't* trust a Scientologist. :-(

牛魔王Tayloralt.tv.simpsons

On May 20, 1:43 pm, Taylor wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if they themselves want the show to end when they do things like this. Harry Shearer has all but said that he hates doing the show.

She'll do anything for more $$ to give to the cult.

JeßusMikeMalt.tv.simpsons

I think everyone involved can see the writing on the wall at this stage...

They probably want to get the most they can, while they can at this stage.

allemannsterJeßusalt.tv.simpsons

Most likely. One thing I don't understand is how the writers, producers, FOX, etc. cannot acknowledge that most of the fanbase is gone and that the show sucks.

Davidallemannsteralt.tv.simpsons

On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:01:54 -0700 (PDT), "[email]" wrote:

Perhaps they like continuing to make a billion dollars a year?

In article , wrote:

Because apparently enough non-fans still watch to make new episodes very profitable.

Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us. 'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us." -'Deal/No Deal', CHESS

"Invid Fan" wrote

Bear in mind what OFF is up against - garbage reality shows, pretend talent shows and some of the worst 'sitcoms' in history*. If it wasn't for ABC (Aus) I doubt I'd watch anything *other* than The Simpsons. Poor as recent episodes have been, it's still the only thing on commercial free-to-air that is even remotely worth the electricity...

*The Simpsons has provided more memorable lines over the years than perhaps any other comedy, apart from maybe Monty Python (and that is a more localised product than OFF, as it wasn't dubbed into many languages.)

"And there we have it - poster *likes* his brain..."

Paul

HomerPaul Bartramalt.tv.simpsons

"Paul Bartram" <p.bartram AT OR NEAR mysoul.com.au> wrote:

True, but most of those lines came from the first 10 years of the show.

JeßusPaul Bartramalt.tv.simpsons

I'm years ahead of you there.

I'm not sure, but probably circa 1999 I completely stopped watching TV. I don't even have a TV antenna connected up now. I can't even tolerate the ABC and SBS anymore, unfortunately.

I survive off DVDs and in no small part, the Internet. Basically, what I cannot get on DVD I download... which is quite a LOT, mostly documentaries. The only exceptions are the Simpsons, South Park - and I also did download the entire series of Trailer Park Boys, but AFAIK that show is history now.

For sure.

Paul BartramJeßusalt.tv.simpsons

Sadly, both have gone downhill badly in the last year or so, the ABC because of its divergence into digital (split into two versions) and SBS because it now carries adverts within programmes. Still streets ahead of the commercial garbage, though.

Lucky you, with broadband! I'm still using string and baked bean tins as the 'information superhighway' doesn't run past here...

Never heard of it! Sounds American though (here it'd be 'Caravan Park Boys'...)

Paul .

JeßusPaul Bartramalt.tv.simpsons

True. I think in the ABC's case, they're trying to compete with the commercial channels on their own terms, which is rather futile if you ask me. They should be concentrating on offering the exact opposite of the commercials - that is what they were good at, of course. Now they please nobody.

SBS was fast overtaking the ABC in terms of quality I thought - but then now we have ads on SBS, so screw that, I'd rather not bother at all with it now.

Plus, the previous govt was hell bent on destroying the ABC via funding cutbacks and veiled threats regarding ratings performance and I think they have largely succeeded in that goal, it's just that the terminal effects haven't hit yet.

Canadian actually, so it's not too bad at all :)

It's a show that you will either love or hate... I don't think there is any grey area with this one.

I found it to be hilarious and entertaining, and I loved the amateurish production values, and the actors as well for that matter. IIRC it went for 5 or 6 seasons (plus a movie) but the last I heard, last year's season will be the last.

UbiquitousMikeMalt.tv.simpsons

[email] wrote:

I heard that Homer's been showing up drunk on the set and causing a LOT of problems!

It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad for them, it's failing.