RIP Chuck Jones (1913-2002)

Feb 22, 2002, 11:58 PM ET25 posts by 18 posters
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Greg Bair

Chuck Jones, the creator of Bugs Bunny, as well as many other great Warner Bros. characters, died tonight. Rest in Peace to a great cartoonist.

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AnonymousGreg Bair

The greatest of all. I'm glad I went with the hunch and wrote to him last year telling him how he inspired me. I loved the Jones Tom and Jerry cartoons. They were the most beautiful cartoon shorts ever made.

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BazillaAnonymous

I'm going to avoid saying the obvious pun.

A truly great has died, when people you don't know die, you often get asked "what did they ever do for you?" most of the time the answer is nothing. Finally someone has died that you can answer this question without saying "nothing".

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DJ MaNiAkBazilla

He was my favorite wrestler....oops, wrong newsgroup. :D

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Chris®Anonymous

A true animation pioneer he was. His work has indirectly affected the Simpsons, as he worked with MGM's "Tom & Jerry", which Itchy & Scratchy are based upon.

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Ted S.Chris®

Somebody claiming to be [email] (Chris�) wrote in news:[email]:

Of course, he worked on Tom & Jerry in the mid-60s, IIRC, long after they had been created.

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The RackTed S.

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Yes; and a Mr. Fred Quimby came before. Hey! We've come full circle, back on topic! Freddy Quimby! Woo HOO!

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Ryan W. MeadThe Rack

No, no, he was just a producer. Mssrs. William Hanna and Joseph Barbera came before.

Dwayne ConyersRyan W. Mead

CJ was a true genius. Rest in peace!

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Chris®Ted S.

Who said Jones created Tom & Jerry? They date to the late 1920's.

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Michael J. AstrauskasChris®

Chris� wrote:

However, Chester Lampwick created Itchy & Scratchy in 1918. :)

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Ted S.Chris®

Somebody claiming to be [email] (Chris�) wrote in news:[email]:

The original poster's point was that Tom & Jerry was the basis of Itchy & Scratchy; and that Jones' work on T&J was the cause of the influence. At least, that's what I think your point was.

A more relevant Chuck Jones reference would be the appearance of Marvin the Martian in "The Springfield Files".

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Jay K.Ted S.

Nope...you're off by about 10 years. The very first Tom and Jerry cartoon, called "Puss Gets The Boot" was released on Februrary 20, 1940.

Jay

Chris®Jay K.

What about that 1929 classic "Tugboat Jerry"?

(BTW, you're probably right)

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Chris®Ted S.

Yes, that was my original point.

I had forgotten about that.

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Brian in VATed S.

And those 60's Tom & Jerry's were the worst of the series.

Brian

Chris®Brian in VA

I'm a fan of the older (1940's, early 50's) Tom & Jerry's myself. Yeah, they were blatantly sexist & racist, but they were a hoot.

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jimBrian in VA

aren't they mocking the show? itchy and scratchy are a putdown. I think. Is it an homage? or derision? "pbt" wrote in message news:Ej7e8.5761$[email]...

The Rackjim

Drunk and full of pie, jim wrote:

Good question. It's a commentary on violent cartoons, at the very least. Though the most Jerry ever does to Tom is hand him firecrackers, or snap his paws in mousetraps, I & S exaggerates that to make a point. It is satirical to a point.

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Brett BuckThe Rack

in article [email], The Rack at [email] wrote on 2/24/02 1:10 PM:

The scary thing is that it's not all that exaggerated. The 30's-40's T&J were remarkably violent, and it was wonderfully free of consequences. They also won a lot of Oscars. Later, when they were being produced in Holland, they got even more violent and the animation went to crap -sort of like Iron curtain "Worker and Proletariat" type cartoons. "Tom and Jerry Cartoon Kit" (the best Gene Dietch cartoon from Holland) is even a self parody of the senseless violence. It looks like a trip to the "Itchy and Scratchy Land" gift shop.

Not to speak ill of the recently dead, but the Chuck Jones T&J's were absolutely off-key (as he himself admitted on Tom Snyder in the late 70's/Early 80's). The 70's "Tom and Jerry Cartoon Show" Saturday morning episodes were fecal at best - who ever was involved should be made to watch an endless loop of "Chilly Willy" for a week, both as punishment and training.

This may be considered a plea for help, but I've watched every Tom and Jerry cartoon at least 10 times. I&S are a parody, but also an homage (note that the viewers always end up laughing) but it's not that far off.

The most violent of all, of course, are the early "Woody Woodpecker".

Brett

Ernie B.Brett Buck

Funny, I always thought that I&S were a parody of Famous Studios "Herman and Katnip" series. Certainly this series was much more full of gratuitious violence than T&J ever was.

My $.02

GyumaohErnie B.

I seem to remember a T&J where Tom is sliced in half with an axe.

I remember those. They were disgusting. The only thing seperating H&K from I&S was that there was no spurting blood. There was a mouse that always murdered Katnip, and also a crow. I can't remember which was Herman. I think the crow had an un-PC "Al Jolson"-esque voice, IIRC

Chris®jim

I & S is more a satire of cartoon violence. It's neither a putdown nor a homage.

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King HomerGreg Bair

In article , [email] says...

Actually he did not create Bugs Bunny, he did work on Bugs Bunny cartoons, but wasn't the creator. His most famous creations were Wile E. Coyote (my favorite), Road Runner, Marvin Martian, and Pepe Le Pew among many other secondary characters.

I'd also like to "second" the opinion that his Tom and Jerry episodes were the best of the bunch. His work on "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" is definitive Jones, his cartoons are always easy to recognize do to his unique drawings.

You will be miss Chuck, one of the early gods of animation!

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