are they bringing seinfeld back?

S09E24 The Finale (2)retroJul 29, 1999, 1:12 AM ET15 months later14 posts by 11 posters
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Phillip Wells

i just watched the very last half of the last episode and suddenly remembered something i heard from some guy at a texas rangers baseball game a couple weeks ago. he said that there was a great chance that the show would reappear at the beginning of this fall season, a big secret being kept by nbc and not letting out any word of it til a few days before or maybe the night before it came back on. i didn't think much of it til i heard the line in that episode that he used as the basis of his claim or rumor or whatever. it's where the judge sentences them to one year away from the general population. that's supposed to be some tipoff that they'll be back, presumably out of jail now just over a full year later. he also said something about jerry being ready to get back to the wealthier and cushier lifestyle of a famous tv star. i assume this is all bs, but i'm curious now after watching that episode again if anyone else has heard that story?

R.H.Phillip Wells

WOW!!!! I haven't heard anything, but I hope it's true...has anybody heard anything about this....man, I love the show, and really would love some new episodes to tape in my VCR!

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DaveR.H.

There's approximately a 0% chance of them returning, but that's no reason to give up hope. :)

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    That rumor is persistent, and should have been given the gaspipe long ago.
Jerry has tried to kill it, but it won't die. The NBC schedule is set for
1999-2000 and it does NOT include a revival of the Seinfeld series...nor will
Jerry do such a show. He has, in fact, ruled out not only a revival of the
series, but any on-air role for himself in any future sitcom. (He and Larry
David are co-producing a show for the fall of 2000 or 2001 starring Phil Morris
in the role of Jackie Chiles, but that's as far as he'll go in returning to
series TV.)
     Seinfeld couldn't have a cushier lifestyle than he enjoys now, living off
the interest of a half-billion dollar fortune earned from both performance and
syndication rights. He now lives in a New York luxury co-op where his neighbors
include ABC anchor Peter Jennings. Remember, he turned down $125 million and a
seat on the GE board of directors, which the CEO of General Electric personally
offered him at the end of 1997 for an agreement to do a tenth season of
"Seinfeld." Money's not what motivates Jerry Seinfeld, he has all he'll ever
need and then some.
     He hasn't ruled out an eventual one-shot reunion film, either for TV or
theatrical release, but it's not in the works right now. He sometimes talks of
an eventual return to TV as a talk host or variety performer, possibly with a
late-night show. But that would depend on the retirement of either Leno or
Letterman. (Letterman keeps making noises about leaving at the end of his
current contract, which doesn't have that much longer to run, so maybe that's
one possibility for Jerry a couple years down the road.)
     What that whole "we'll be back in a year' business meant, was simply an
affirmation that life for the four main characters was just being interrupted,
not coming to an end. It would go on, probably like before after that brief
interruption, but we just wouldn't see it unfold week by week. Don't attach any
other significance to it.

Bob Smith, afternoons WXXI-AM 1370, Rochester NY

Talk1370 wrote:

Thanks for putting things in perspective. Seinfeld is way too intelligent to revive the show. If you ask me, the 9th season was one season too many, he should have quit at the end of the 8th. But since he's a baseball fan, maybe he wanted to pitch a complete game!

A late-night talk show with Jerry could be a good idea. Although I get the impression that he's not an improviser. His material seems to be very carefully put together. And to be a great talk-show host, you have to be good at improv. But it would be a very interesting concept to try, that's for sure. One thing is sure, he would have every network at his feet in a hot minute.

Funny baseball analogy! Bet Jerry would love it, if it wasn't indeed what he himself was thinking. You're wrong about the 9th Season- many brilliant and classic episodes with strong writing and performances. Some episodes not as strong, but there were -very rarely- but nontheless, there were some weaker episodes in earlier seasons that exceeded anything in the 9th that might be criticized.) And regarding Jerry- nothing would be funnier or more classic than a covert return to TV (behind the smoke screen of a Jackie Chiles show). They could easily cruise through 3 or 4 more seasons. And despite what has been said: Jerry clearly said "We'll be back in a year." I'm surprised it didn't garner more interest: Costas didn't even ask about it during the recent interview (March '99). A fact which further fuels my suspicion. (Very uncharacteristic for Costas to leave anything unturned- unless a friend has asked him to do so.) If rumors are swirling however and a September Surprise has been let out of the bag- I bet -well I won't reveal what I think Jerry will do to recapture the element of surprise, if indeed he is planning a return while he's still in his prime- but it will catch everyone off balance.

revive the show. If you ask me, the 9th season was one season too many, he should have quit at the end of the 8th. But since he's a baseball fan, maybe he wanted to pitch a complete game!

HannSC wrote:

My big problem with the 9th season was the behavior of the characters, which became more and more exagerrated, to the point where they became caricatures instead of "real" people. George in "The dealership" was downright annoying and, for once, not funny at all.

The switch to absurdity in the last seasons was sometimes funny but at other times it seems like they were weird just to be weird. It was less about the psychology of the characters and more about situations that made no sense. For example, the "betrayal" was more interesting as a concept than funny in itself.

Of course, I'd rather watch *any* Seinfeld episode than another sitcom.

  Yes-  George in "The Dealership"-- perfect example of a weak spot.
It needed another rewrite.
      But,  to point out a random example-- I'd say the non-Season 9 episode in
which Jerry gets fed up with hugging and kissing all his neighbors and then
regrets it- was a lot thinner.  As well as Kramer's plot for that same episode:
a self imposed vow of silence.  Those plots didn't need rewrites- they needed
to be thrown out-  or massively reworked.
  There are also even earlier plots and scenes that fell far shorter than
George did in "The Dealership".
    I think there are signs throughout the run of the series of them either
working too fast,  or getting a little over confident and cocky, and not
working as hard as at other times.
    There are bad Larry David plots and weak spots,  as frequently as such
flaws appeared in the last seasons.
   Yes,  it got more extravagant and dense toward the end-  but no less packed
with comic genius.  There was a certain minimalism to the earlier stuff-  but
only part of this was due to an original style-  there are heavy signs that
Larry David and Jerry were trying at that point not to stray too far from
traditional sit com structure and territory, while slowly opening up some new
directions.   It's striking to me that "The Parking Garage" seems so simple and
spartan on the screen-  but then you look at the script,  and,  while it was
written with a light hand-  it destroyed all records for the sheer number of
scenes.  They were just taking the first steps toward innovation.
They probably also were more worried about the budget early on.
    Seinfeld was the most consistent series in history.  Think of the uneven
records even at greats in the genre like Cheers and MASH where you can actually
identify not just whole seasons-  but whole periods of subpar quality.   In
Seinfeld,  it's just the rare episode-  if that  -usually just a mere scene or
a C or D plot at most.

annoying and, for once, not funny at all.

HannSC wrote:

You're misremembering things. Kramer's vow of silence was from the ninth season- not the episode you're referring to.

Yes, there were early episodes that were bad, such as "The Stock Tip" and "The Busboy". But these were simply random misfires. The problem with the ninth season was that not only were the episodes incredibly uneven in quality, but there were signs all around that the show was getting tired and the writers were growing lazy. I'll use George as an example. In the first eight seasons, George responded to adversity by concocting some funny, inventive solution to the problem only to have it blow up in his face. In the ninth season, they just made him scream about everything, and "The Dealership" was the most glaring example of this. It wasn't that "The Dealership" was a bad episode in itself; it was the way it showed that the staff was losing their touch.

Well we certainly disagree. The Puddy/Elaine/Jerry thing at the dealership was hilarious- and yes, as Puddy would say "Classic... high five."

I just think it became very fashionable with some people at certain points to say the show wasn't what it used to be (Jerry himself has commented on this, and I agree with him that it was probably a media led thing which became fashionable to say at certain points, like during Season 9)- Anyone who studies the show a little further will find it's inaccurate.

  The only thing that really sucked was the finale,  and everyone knows it,
including Jerry.  (He's never said so,  but if you saw Bob Costas' interview
with Jerry and Larry David last March,  you know he knows.    Brave Costas
point blank confronted his buddy Jerry with the fact that the finale was not
liked very much by anyone.   It's one of the reasons I think Larry David was no
longer in the league by Season 9--  Jerry promised his old buddy and co-creator
the finale script,  and he couldn't handle it.)

Larry David deserves a huge amount of credit, and broke down some key barriers, and set some key new precedents in style, especially early on. But I've looked over his scripts, and I don't think he could match what they were doing in Season 9- in imagination, or dialogue.

was the way it showed that the staff was losing their touch.

Michel Forest wrote:

I'd like to see Robin Williams with a late-night show. Robin can improv his way out of anything :) I'd opt for Billy C. to be his sidekick, but billy's just as high profile as Robin..it'd be a waste of talent.

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