Newman's first name

You're new here, Chuck, so I'll cut you some slack. The actress playing the farmgirl made a mistake during taping. If I may quote freely from the Seinfeld FAQ:

4.1 Who is Newman and why does Jerry hate him?

        Newman is a USPS employee who lives in Jerry's building. We do
        not know Newman's first name. His business card simply
        shows "Newman". There has been some debate over the question of
        Newman's first name ever since his first appearance on 11/27/91
        in "The Stranded".  The bottom line is this.  Newman's first
name
        has never been revealed.  Or, if Newman is his first name, then
        his last name has never been revealed.  At the center of the
        controversy was a scene at the end of "the Bottle Deposit"
        when a farmgirl yells out to a fleeing Newman, "Goodbye
        Norman (See 6.11). Newman and Jerry are antagonists, but
        whatever cause the rift between them happened before the show
        began. They have disliked each other from the start.
        Newman is friends with Kramer.

6.1 Why does the farm girl at the end of 'The Bottle Deposit' refer to Newman as Norman?

        I once heard that this question was posed to Jerry before a
taping by
        an audience member, and he said that the girl said "Norman"
instead of
        Newman. I guess it was so funny, the producers did not edit it
out.

Hmmm. I took this differently. I thought she was mispronouncing his name, turning it into Norman?

Has anybody *ever* considered the possibility that Newman gave her the "wrong" name?? Why would he.. out of town; getting it on with a girl he'll never see again; whose father had already "warned" him; give his real name??? I wouldn't;-) Besides, as a U.S.Postal Service employee misusing Postal equipment, he's got good reason to lie.. Hmmmmm. Makes sense.

homerr

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name,

But Jerry once mentioned during a Q&A that the actress messed up her line.

Maybe he said his name was Nelson, and she messed up the line by saying
Norman, but I doubt it.
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newman's first name is ilan

Didya catch the photo on the wall in The Kiss Hello. All the photos of the apartment dwellers had their first names on them - Newman's photo was labeled: Newman.

There are many hints from various episodes that suggest Newman has no first name at all (like his business card) and still other evidence that suggests he has a first name but we've never been told what it is (like when Darren, the Intern in "The Voice", says Kramer had high tea with "Mr. Newman".)

Dave wrote:

I'll add Norman to the NickName list in progress.

The News Guy(Mike) wrote:

Just thought of yet another for your list... Vegetable Lasagna (the guy on the plane in the butter shave).

Justin Slade skrev i meldingen ...

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and maybe Stan the Caddy

it's funny - i just saw that episode yesterday and realized, that STAN is played by Quark from DS9... Armin Shimerman (sp?)

and later that Night, i saw "Pretty Woman" and realized again, that GEORGE did appear there as the assistent to Richard Gere... really funny...

peace =duck=

Newman's first name is "Hello"

The actress blew the line. It sounded good that way so they left it in. Probably, because the character was ditsy so it would seem right.The actress said Norman instead of Newman.

Sein181 wrote:

Noway. This way you blow the joke I think that all funny thing is that the farmer's daughter didn't even know Newman's accurate name but it didn't bother her to fool around with him, the little slut. So as I see it, that's the joke in that scene, and not that Newman's first name is Norman and not that the actress had a mistake. i dunno..

That is fine but originally it wasn't written that way but the actress blew the line so they left it in because it sounded better that way.So the actresses' s mistake was fortunate then, in your view. I heard that a writer from the show was on a radio show and he explained about the actresses's mistake and them leaving it in.

This question was once posed to Jerry during a Q&A after a show. Basically he said that the actress was supposed to say "I love you Newman!", but she messed up her line and said "I love you Norman!" instead. Call it serendipity; they realized it was MUCH funnier this way. (Much like Kramer's car not starting at the end of "The Parking Garage") How comically tragic that a woman professes her love for a man and she doesn't even get his name right.

If you watch the scene carefully, you can see the expression on the
farmer change after the Norman line is spoken.  There's a look in his
eyes, it's almost as though he realizes they're going to have to do the
scene over again.
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yes, in "The Barber" episode, Anzo, the barber, calls Newman: Norman by mistake also. that's my opinion too, anyway.

Omer.

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It was the actress that made the mistake in calling him Norman instead of Newman. They thought it so funny, they left it in. However, I could be wrong. I think I read that in one of the many Seinfeld books.

-Adam

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The girl was obviously a total airhead, who claimed to be in love with Newman, and yet couldn't even remember his name. If she had called Kramer "Coslo" would you be conviced that he had changed his name?

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is his name!> WRong. Raingluttn did not say the above. She said the following:

Newman, and yet couldn't even remember his name. If she had called Kramer "Coslo" would you be conviced that he had changed his name?>

I agree, she couldnt remember his name. See Mike about quote skills. He's really good on it. :)

Raingluttn wrote:

EXCELLENT ! You have passed Lesson #1, quoting. You have also passed Lesson #2: <snipping> sort of like the opposite of quoting. You erased that part of the quote that is extraneous to the answer. Then Lesson #3 putting the quotes in order. Looks like ya' got em all.

:-)

On 23 Oct 1998 06:39:05 GMT, [email] (Raingluttn) wrote:

That's how I took it as well, the joke was that she didn't even get his name right.

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I agree and I just watched "The Barber" and uncle Enzo with his very heavy Italian accent also mispronounces Newman's name into Norman at least twice.

P.s Cynthia : I loved the episode and it was probably the one in the series where music was most integrated into the plot.

Mo

Italian accent also mispronounces Newman's name into Norman at least twice>

Interesting. Which episode came first chronologically (this or the one at the farmer's house)

where music was most integrated into the plot.>

AT last, another Barber fan! YES.

(I hadnt really thought about the thing about the music being so integrated into the plot. Thanks for pointing that out! Come to think of it, this was something I really liked but hadnt really put my finger on it).

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Mohamel wrote:

And the plot is of course similar to the farce opera The Barber of Seville - with the hidding in closets - confrontation etc... Jerry is the Lindoro character and crusty old Enzo is Dr. Bartolo.

This is the brilliance of the Seinfeld episodes to experiment into so many areas - this parody of the opera brought to the streets on NY in a sit-com that still has to appeal to all ages and interests.

On seeing The Couch last night, (especially after the killing of the doctor in NY state), their ability to venture into social issues like the abortion debate and maintain humour and interest was brilliant. It's not a pizza until it comes out of the oven... Notice how Jerry is kept 'above' the issue - he just sees it as a tool to manipulate Elaine and cause trouble (Like Woody WoodPecker - yeah,... he's a trouble maker)

Mohamel wrote:

with the hidding in closets - confrontation etc... Jerry is the Lindoro character and crusty old Enzo is Dr. Bartolo.>

Hey, thanks for this. Makes it even richer. Isn't it incredible that the same episode can be great whether you know what's being satirized or not. Like the Tanya Harding episode. I'm sure there are many others like that where I'm unaware of the satire altogether. I loved the wildness of the Barber, the -what's the word - I can't find it.

areas - this parody of the opera brought to the streets on NY in a sit-com that still has to appeal to all ages and interests.>

Exactly. Pure genius.

NY state), their ability to venture into social issues like the abortion debate and maintain humour and interest was brilliant. It's not a pizza until it comes out of the oven...>

They are originals just as Norman Lear at the beginning was also a groundbreaker. I love the added touch of calling it a show "about nothing".

manipulate Elaine and cause trouble (Like Woody WoodPecker - yeah,... he's a trouble maker)

Sometimes he's like the Greek chorus. I'm thinking of scenes in the coffee shop with George. Sorry, no memory for details. But he sort of echoes George's manic crazy conclusions about things.

Jerry as observer really is wonderful in relation to all else that takes place.

This is an example I think of why I get nuts when people start to moralize. It's missing the point of the whole! The way the whole works. I can texplain it. I'll leave it to the intellectual and the linguist. :)

Raingluttn wrote:

Hey, I thought at first you invented a new word - then I saw the typo - but what a good new word it would be:

TEXPLAIN

To explain in plain text a concept that is complicated where body language, voice,graphics, sound and video might be required.

We did it - A new Internet word!

If you don't understand I will try to TEXPLAIN it... You see in newsgroups we use text only, no body language, no intonation of voice, little meta-language and yet we have to communicate without arousing anger and misunderstandings. So explaining something in plain text is: to TEXPLAIN. (c) 1998, Toronto (You have the right to use this word for 20 days after which time I ask you to register it with Cynth and Mike for a small fee of $19.90US. All updates and patches to the word will be sent to registered users.) :-)

Newman doesn't have a first name. His business card proves it.

His name is simply NEWMAN

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why DOES everyone insist in trying to find Newmans first name? theres only two possibilities: he has one u will never know, unless there is some sort of reunion episode where they say it, or its just newman.

let it go, seindorks.