Seinfeld Paradoxes

Mar 8, 2010, 10:41 PM ET12 posts by 5 posters
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Fans discuss inconsistencies in apartment layouts and set design, particularly Jerry and Kramer's apartments and how their exteriors don't match interiors across episodes.

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mitchell_leary

I'm sure there's more than one, but for me this one really stands. Kramer lives across the hall from Jerry, yet there apartments are on the same side of the building. When someone knocks on Kramer's door in the middle of the night we see a cut away to the building exterior, and sure enough a light comes on from Kramer's apartment, which is right next door to Jerry's.

The chicken roaster episode through this MC Escher architecture right into the Twilight Zone. Jerry and the K-man switched apartments because of the bright red chicken roaster sign was shining through Kramer's window and keeping him up. I've tried to sketch this out in my mind, it just doesn't add up.

In the early episodes the exterior shots of the windows didn't even match the interior shots. They're were clearly small sectional windows in the frame on the outside, but on the inside it looked completely different.

Another paradox is Jerry's bedroom. In early episodes he seemed to live in a studio apartment, his parents slept on the fold-out bed in season one, while he slept over at Kramer's that night. In later seasons a one-bedroom all of a sudden appears back in the little hallway where the bicycle hangs.

Wouldn't it be nice if reality were this malleable?

Bobcatmitchell_leary

On Mar 8, 10:41 pm, mitchell_leary wrote:

Changing the layout of Jerry's and Cosmo's apartments to suit the plots of various episodes isn't unique. The same thing happened to Frasier's Seattle condo, but the changes were minor and made more sense.

On Mar 10, 5:47 pm, "Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:

I believe the Apollo missions were real, but somehow some of the film was ruined so they had to re-shoot it on a stage somewhere out in the desert southwest. This was the era of Mission Impossible and this kind of "can we get away with it" thinking permeated. What's a $20 billion dollar vacation without pictures?

Willmitchell_leary

"mitchell_leary" wrote in message news:[email]...

On Happy Days the boys' bathroom door was on the left hand side but when they showed the interior shots people would turn right to get into the bathroom area when it should have been to the left. This, too, troubled me for many years.

"mitchell_leary" wrote in message news:[email]...

The worst paradox for me was the candy lineup in "The Dealership". George has no transportation, no money, and is starving. He spends a good portion of the episode trying to get some food at the dealership because he is starving (free donuts, vending machine), without success.

All of a sudden, he has 10 Twix bars, you don't know how or where he could have possibly obtained them, and he didn't eat a single one in order to create the candy lineup while starving. Worst writing of the entire 9-year series.

"mitchell_leary" wrote in message news:[email]...

Another one, The Bottle Deposit Part 2:

Kramer kicks Newman out of the mail truck because he's weighing it down and Kramer wants to catch up to Tony in Jerry's car. Newman ends up at Richie Cunningham's father's farmhouse where he diddles the daughter after gagging on some strong cider.

Kramer keeps driving, presumably for miles, until Tony disables the truck by bombarding it with JFK's golf clubs. Kramer starts walking and ends up where? At the same farmhouse, after driving quite a way after kickout out Newman.

Impossible.

Another one, The Engagement:

Elaine, Kramer, and Newman kidnap Elaine's neighbor's loud dog and drive it upstate, almost to Monticello. I just mapped it - it's just over 100 miles.

The dog ran 100 miles nonstop, knew how to navigate the entire way, and through NYC, and made it home before sunrise.

As Elaine exclaimed, "Impossible".

"mitchell_leary" wrote in message news:[email]...

Don't forget the biggest paradox of them all, The Finale:

The gang of four are arrested for not risking their lives by not trying to overpower a potentially armed criminal. Preposterous.

BobcatDimitrios Paskoudniakis

On Mar 19, 10:17 am, "Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:

Lots of paradoxes - the dog who runs home, the apartment layout, the Twix bars etc. But none of them matter a hoot. Seinfeld arguably was still the greatest sitcom of all, eh? (Written by a Canadian)

JGDimitrios Paskoudniakis

On Mar 19, 9:17 am, "Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:

Plus the reliance on the OJ Simpson trial for story ideas...i.e. Jackie Chiles. How different would the series have been if OJ never happened ??

Dimitrios PaskoudniakisJG

"JG" wrote in message news:[email]... On Mar 19, 9:17 am, "Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:

Plus the reliance on the OJ Simpson trial for story ideas...i.e. Jackie Chiles. How different would the series have been if OJ never happened ??

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Another nonsense post from you.

The entire series is always parodying issues of the day, and in the 1990s, those issues included the OJ Simpson story. And how is this paradoxical? Poking fun at the OJ trial makes perfect sense for a comedy and is not at all paradoxical.

JGDimitrios Paskoudniakis

On Mar 22, 8:16 pm, "Dimitrios Paskoudniakis" wrote:

People getting their heads knifed off...its Gold Jerry...Gold...