To find out the popularity of Jerry in SEINFELD, I wonder they make an episode without GEORGE,KRAMER AND ELAINE. Just Jerry !!
Then we would know whether can the entire show by himself.
Just a thought.
Fans discuss whether an episode with only Jerry would work, with consensus that Seinfeld is an ensemble show that needs all four main characters to succeed.
To find out the popularity of Jerry in SEINFELD, I wonder they make an episode without GEORGE,KRAMER AND ELAINE. Just Jerry !!
Then we would know whether can the entire show by himself.
Just a thought.
Don't think that Jerry doesn't know that exact same thing. I mean, the concept of the show was ingenius, but he knows that he can't act. There was an awards show this year - maybe the emmys - where he got up and said something to the effect of "Hi, I'm Jerry Seinfeld, and I'm a bad actor" adding that if he wouldn't be anywhere if he hadn't surrounded himself with the best talent he could find. It's true, and it's great - and actually funny - that he knows it.
Mary-Pat
Seinfeld without the others just wouldn't be the same. It is your quintessential ensemble piece and should never try to stray from this formula. It would be like pizza without the cheese, you might try it once but you wouldn't come back for seconds.
[email] (George Costanza) wrote:
Here's a better idea: do an episode without Jerry! We already know that an episode with ONLY Jerry will be dull. Let's see if they can come up with something for the others to do without him.
they would all be sitting around in Jerrys apartment doing nothing. Jerry is the centre. Each character are linked to eachother through Jerry.
Allison
Jonathan Roppolo wrote: <Yadda Yadda Yadda>
================================================================ Ok, here we go again - How would the Wizard of Oz be with only Dorothy How would Star Treck be with only Kirk How would...
In every classic literary quest there is a central character surrounded by others that represent the three aspects of human character The Physical The Intellectual The Emotional/Spiritual
For 10 marks; Kramer, Elaine, George Spock, McCoy, Scotty Lion, Tin Man, Scarecrow Identify each.
In , The News Guy writes:
OK. I'll take a crack at it: Kramer - gotta be Physical Elaine - Emotional/Spiritual? George - Intellectual (it sounds funny, but think about it.) Spock - intellectual McCoy - Um, physical? Scotty - Beats the hell out of me. Lion - Emotional? Tin Man - Intellectual? Scarecrow - Physical?
I see it this way but other arguments can be made... Scarecrow wants a brain - Intellectual Tin Man wants a heart - Emotional Lion wants courage - Physical
Spock (with his logic) - obviously Intellectual Scott (the engineer) - physical McCoy (care giver) - emotional
Kramer - physical comedy Elaine (editor/pseudo intellectual in early eps) George - pure emotion in a negative way
In , The News Guy writes:
I got it all backwards on the Wizard of Oz guys. I figured the lion to be emotional because of the way he carried on about not having courage, I saw the scarecrow as physical because he seemed the most 'active' or 'animated' of the group, always flopping his limbs around and stuff. This kinda left the tin man as Intellectual by default, but he didn't seem that smart to me. Now that I think about it, he too was emotional because his primary need was to experience feelings, thus the need for the heart.
Stop me if I'm reading too much into this.
As far as the Star Trek guys, well, I never really watched it that much, and they were really just guesses. If you ignore the names and focus on their ranks or job titles, it sounds like you are right on the money. All I know of Spock is the 'Highly illogical, Captain' line, so I went with intellectual. I may have been all wrong on McCoy, now that I think about it. All I know of McCoy is the 'Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor!' line, and this sounds pretty emotional.
i'll try, but "Seinfeld" isn't really a "quest". Kramer-Physical Elaine-Emotional George-Intellectual (he is always talking about his personality, how to change it, how to know about other people. he'd be emotional, but i don't think elaine is intellectual) i don't watch star trek but i know enough to know that Spock is Intellectual. Lion-emotional tin man-intellectual scarecrow-physical
What about Chanson de Roland, Don Quixote, The Odyssey, and The Aneid? What about the dualist/ monoist debate? Where did you get this "three aspect" theory and what does it have to do with our four heroes? I have read a theory that four is the largest group that can maintain a single conversation without splitting into smaller groups. Also weren't there four elements(earth, air, fire, and water) and four humours in the humourial theories of medicine? Maybe these systems would occasion a more fruitful analysis.
don't you mean the smallest?
What? The Lion, Tin Woodsman, and Scarecrow were parodies of real political figures, as was the Wizard. The storm in Kansas was symbolic of the times. Even the colors had symbolism: the Yellow (gold) brick road, Dorothy's silver shoes, and the Emerald (green) city. "The Wizard of Oz" wasn't about "the physical, the intellectual, the emotional/spiritual"; it was a commentary on economics and politics, dressed up in a children's story.
---Alvin H. Nichter
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Jonathan Roppolo wrote:
George and Elaine can't hang out together. Jerry is Even Steven, the comfortable buffer. Also, the opposite episode is the best, Jerry, the best. I've gone up to da ladies at bars and said, "I'm the opposite of every guy you've ever known." Worked a couple times too. :)
--Later,
Jack
"If we pick, do we not bleed?"