The Cheever Letters

S04E08 The Cheever LettersliveOct 28, 1992, 10:33 PM ET11 hours later8 posts by 8 posters
😂 Loved it
8 posts
M.D. Shepherd

$429?! So how much money IS Jerry going to spend before the series is over?! Anybody know how much he's walloped out so far? He appears to like amounts between $200 and $500 :$)

Great episode in my opinion. They are really turning it around since those first couple episodes. Elaine was a big missing part, and today's show wouldn't have been half as funny if not simply for the last line "I'm going to my mother's. She bought me some new panties and she's laying them out for me!" She said it SOOOO perfectly. It was a real riot, squirting ketchup included!

Anybody concur that this was the best one so far all season?

Later, Mike

(and exactly what WAS that double take that Kramer did in the Cuban place at the lady with the sunglasses. It was stupid but I was rolling on the floor! That's Senior Kramer!)

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JASON MATTHEW MCDONALDM.D. Shepherd
I agree that this was the best this season.  It brought back THE jacket too.
I wonder how long Kramer can go without it now?  The ketchup thing was well
done.  I don't know what else could one praise without citing the whole
script.  The Cheever thing was so out of the blue, I was slightly stunned.
Absolute comedy at it's best.
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IO20721JASON MATTHEW MCDONALD

A great episode in my opinion... Had me laughing all night.

I liked George's reactions when Jerry was telling him about the adventures in bed. "I'm going to need some water over here!!"

This Space for RentM.D. Shepherd

[email] (M.D. Shepherd) writes:

Kramer is such an openly straightforward person, that it shocks him when he discovers people who are dishonest, or otherwise have something to hide. I think that's part of what we like about Kramer, that he's so sincerely Kramer. When he saw that woman with sunglasses inside a Cuban Embassy, I don't think he realized that she might have something to hide. That's why the double take--- why's a woman wearing sunglasses in a Cuban Embassy? To us, it might be obvious, to Kramer, it's a shock.

The funny part of Kramer is that he doesn't quite know what's appropriate and what's not. Like asking George to get more cigars for him, or going to the Cuban Embassy to ask for cigars. What's really funny is that no matter how innappropriate he is, he manages to get what he wants anyway, through sheer Kramer luck. (Remeber his bet on the 'mudder' in the Subway... He sure came out well on that one. Just look at George in the same episode. Those experiences shape how people will act in the future.)

Off my box, Ming

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That's a perfect example of Kramer's character vs George's character! Kramer comes out smelling like a rose; George gets screwed (figuratively, NOT literally!) I love it!

Robert

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Greg DemichillieM.D. Shepherd

I'll agree that the final line of the episode was very funny, as well as the squirting ketchup. But this entire season has been a real letdown for me. The best episodes have been the re-runs.

The whole show is becoming more driven by "wacky" plots instead of just taking our 4 main characters and letting them react to life's everyday problems.

Maybe, but like I said, that's damning with faint praise.

-Greg

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Jon ConradGreg Demichillie

In article [email] (Greg Demichillie) writes:

Here come the rose-colored glasses. "It used to be better in Ze Oldt Days...." I'm guilty of it too sometimes, I admit....

But: you're altering the past to fit present wishes. They had plenty of wacky plots in the past, and the show has never been *quite* about nothing. Remember The IQ Test? The Library Book? The Failing Restaurant?

None of those were just everyday things; they all had complete story lines.

One thing different about this latest episode (I'm not saying better or worse): ending within the story rather than fading out to Jerry's standup routine. They haven't done that often in the past, have they? Ever?

Jon Alan Conrad

choGreg Demichillie

That's interesting that you say that. I have had the same feeling that it is now just so *silly*. I really enjoyed it more when there was great dialogue and less zaniness. The show is still fun to watch, but I think the writers should focus more on the script and less on the action. Part of the beauty of Seinfeld is the 'New York Jewish' style of reaction to life's little agonies. I think the previous seasons were better at handling that. It makes me wonder that they have now run out of 'ordinary life' events, and are reaching out to crazy stunts to get the laughs. Things like 'lying to your boss' and 'parking in New York' or 'dealing with your parents' are actually funnier to me than 'falling around on the floor' or 'burning down an expensive cabin accidently', 'getting mauled by a bubble boy', etc. -Pamela Cho-