I am pretty disappointed that Seinfeld reshot the scenes with Jerry Stiller in place of the original actor. I hope it's not true.
Did they really think that Seinfeld viewers were dumb enough not to undestand that it was just another actor.
Does nayone know the story behind the use of another actor in place of Jerry Stiller in this episode? And why they decide to reshoot the scene for syndication?
n
Yeah, It's true, the scenes with Frank Costanza in The Handicapped Spot were shot with Jerry Stiller replacing the original actor. That episode featured the debut of Frank Costanza who was originally played by John(?) Randolph. The next appearance for Frank C. was early in the next season when George moved in with his parents in The Puffy Shirt.
I had understood that it was done for continuity, so that the syndicated episodes would make more sense (Stiller has great recognition in the later episodes). However, they left the original Morty Seinfeld in "The Stakeout".
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They also didn't reshoot the scenes in 'The Non-Fat Yogurt' with the original Lloyd Braun.
My guess is that they reshot the the Frank Costanza scenes and not the Lloyd Braun and Morty Seinfeld scenes because Jerry wasn't in the Frank Costanza scenes. He probably makes much more than the others and is much busier than the other actors to be able to do this. So it was probably time and or budget that kept them from doing all of them.
Of course the Lloyd Braun thing isn't really that critical since he's only in two episodes. Also, the Costanzas seem to get more camera time then the Seinfelds, making the reshoot of Frank more important.
If I was building a video tape collection of the series, I would certainly want a copy of the original as well as the syndicated version of 'The Handicapped Spot'.
Monty
Speaking of reshooting scenes...
If they're going to do this for some syndication episodes, why now do it for all of them? There was an episode last week with a different Morty Seinfeld. Which episode was it? Did anyone else notice? He wasn't nearly as funny.
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They definitely reshot the scenes, replacing John Randolf with Jerry Stiller. This was the first time we saw George's father. and apparently, they recast the character after that episode.
There was speculation that they reshot the scene to save from having to pay royalties to the other actor. With the number of people who appear in each episode, I can't believe this was true. Between boyfriends, girlfriends and coworkers, there are a couple hundred people, they're going to reshoot scenes to save paying one guy?
Why are you disappointed? Please explain.
What does this mean? Please explain.
For the sake of continuity, an episode (Was it really "The Handicapped Spot"? I hope someone can tell me.) had scened reshot with Jerry Stiller that were originally shot with another actor.
Maybe this info is in the FAQ, but who originally played George's father? I've heard that another actor was originally Jerry's father. Who?
If they had the resources, would SEINFELD's makers reshoot because 1) Lloyd Bron was played by two different actors? 2) Suzanne Schiller played two different characters?
I don't suggest reshooting to preserve script continuity, e.g. does Kramer take baths.
GR
I don't know, I think if they cared at all about continuity they'd demand the syndicators actually show the episodes in order instead of one night the episode where they shoot the pilot and get their series cancelled and the next night an episode where George says he's working on a pilot. Why can't they show the episodes in order? Why? It would have been so much funnier if they'd shown "The Contest," where George sees the nurse giving a beautiful lady a sponge bath, then whatever episode it is where George thinks he might be gay and goes back to visit his mother in the hospital and sees the man giving another man a sponge bath. I'm sure those two were originally broadcast in order but syndication-wise they were shown a couple months apart.
Andrew
I agree with you, the continuity argument for reshooting those scenes doesn't work. The other argument that doesn't work is to save money by not having to pay the original actor.
When Cheers was syndicated, they released the shows out of order. When they were all done, the station showing them made a big deal about how they were going to be shown in order. Maybe that's why they do it this way.
The Contest was shown Nov 18, 1992, while The Outing was aired Feb 11, 1993. While they were not shown sequentially, you'll notice that when George is in the hospital during The Outing, that there is a loud laugh track when the sponge bath is given.
My problem with reshooting the scenes with George's father is that the original actor might actullay be a better fit for that particular episode. It'll be hard to believe that Jerry Stiller (who is perfect as the father) is the President of a charity organization. That actor gives that episode the dignity it needs to contrast with Kramer's and George's antics. I think it makes the situation funnier.
Don't forget Jerry's dad was a different actor the first time he was on, and they didn't reshoot those scenes (it aired within the last week on the syndicated episodes). Anyway, I'm kinda glad they decided on Jerry Stiller for Goerge's dad, I can't imagine anyone else being more perfect ;^)
Also, many shows reuse actors. I just bought a book on Nick-at-Nite's programs (includes program guides for all their shows) and many of them had the same actor playing different parts during the run of the show. Anyone remember The Honeymooners? George Petrie was always playing different characters :)
Fred
Fred Ochs ([email]) wrote:
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: The waitress that dumps George after a walk in the park because he talk about 'manure' actually being a good thing, was portrayed by the same person that played Marlene, the cashier that first dated George, then moved on to Jerry. She ended up dumping him because she didn't like his comedy act.
Peggy
Is this the show where "the gang" buys a wide-screen TV for the Drake & Drakette?
GR