This show's supposed to be mature?

Nov 8, 19975 posts by 3 posters
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Lisa Generette

Everybody's complaining that the shows aren't as good as they used to be. OK, I'll buy that. I've been watching since the very beginning, and they have gone downhill a somewhat.

Everyone says they miss the keen wit, maturity and intelligence of the past episodes. OK, I agree. The old ones were written very well and had a certain sophistication about them that appealed to clever-minded viewers.

BUT when reminiscing about the old episodes, and finding the few redeeming bits of the new ones, everyone cites the silliest, most inane antics. ie., Kramer pouring blood in Jerry's engine, George stomping the pigeons, Elaine being kissed by a 13 yr old -- this season...

These are just plain dumb and would make a 5 yr old laugh. There's nothing sophisticated about them. But again and again I read that's what you liked best about this season. What about the image of Jerry driving the van? What about the rabbi's come-on to Elaine and the empty rocking chair when he looks up. What about 'Witey Fisk', George's made-up friend, and the fact that he admitted it. What about this Thursday's image of George carrying the squirrel in that little harness on his chest? These are examples of subtle humor that belie the true depravity of the characters.

And why were these such hits? Waiting at the Chinese restaurant (2nd season), walking around a mall parking lot (3rd season), dropping a Junior mint into someone on an operating table (4th season). The first two are totally boring and too weak to base an entire episode on. And the last one is simply crass, juvenile humor.

I think the eps that show how really demented and pathetic the characters are, are the best. Every sitcom tries to create funny 'scenes'. What sets Seinfeld apart is its character development. The more we get to know about Jerry, George, Elaine, Kramer, etc., and the more times they shock us with their twisted view of the world, the more we are entertained. Seinfeld shouldn't have to resort to physical comedy and cheap shots like other shows do.

Why does everyone laugh when Kramer stumbles in Jerry's door, but no one finds it amusing that Kramer can get everyone he knows, and a famous celebrity to appear on junked Merv Griffin set and talk like its being filmed for broadcast? Why does everyone laugh when Elaine says, 'get out' and shoves Jerry/George, but no one finds it amusing when she's drawn to the girlfriend's house to use a 20 yr old EZ Bake oven...Jerry would rather play with action figures than have sex...Kramer explained the set was so smelly because 1970s stars weren't 'as hygenic as they appeared to be on tv'...

If you all say you liked the show when it was witty and well-written, how come the no-brainer scenes are your favorites?

I'm not being 'pedantic' (Iguess somebody's been studying for the SAT). I just wanted some explanation as to the appeal of cheap shot humor on a show that's known for its intelligent writing. I watch a few no-brainer sitcoms 'not that there's anything wrong with that' and I can appreciate the silliness for what it is. I just expect more from Seinfeld because it has distinguished itself as a different genre of comedy. Mostly everyone on this ng says they like Seinfeld for its intelligence, but give examples of silly scenes as their favorites. And that just doesn't make scense to me.

In article , [email] (Lisa Generette) wrote:

Hey, you're the one that thinks Seinfeld probably isn't smart enough to use a computer, what do you expect? We are all just idiots, YOU"RE the smart one here..

"If you wish to drown, do not torture yourself with shallow water" -- Bulgarian proverb. Or was it the mission statement for the Windows95 team??

In article , [email] wrote:

Why would I have a witty comment for you? You have nothing for me. This Lisa person slams someone for their choice of words "pedantic", contradicts herself all over the place in several posts, and you try to slam me for not putting out my email so others can send me hate mail?

Why are you so concerned about what I look like? What my email address is? What my name is? Why don't you simply respond to Generette's confused and actually very uppity posts?

Seems like you don't want to deal with the issues, you just want to try and flame me..

Won't work sweety..

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"If you wish to drown, do not torture yourself with shallow water" -- Bulgarian proverb. Or was it the mission statement for the Windows95 team??