... banned from TV?
Benjamin (Berlin, Germany)
Why is the Puerto Rican Day ...
S09E20 The Puerto Rican DayretroJan 2, 2002, 5:46 AM ET4 years later40 posts by 29 posters
❓ Question
Fans discuss why the Puerto Rican Day episode was banned from television, with most agreeing it was due to Kramer accidentally burning a Puerto Rican flag in the episode which offended viewers.
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"Benjamin Barth" schreef in bericht news:a0uojd$aki$04$[email]...
I thought it had something to do with Kramer burning the Puerto Rican-flag in that episode (not at purpose, but still...). That would be offending to people from PR. So that's why it's banned, but correct me if I'm wrong...
Mailman
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:55:51 +0100, "Mailman" wrote:
That is true, and it was met with a response of 'many' puerto ricans who called in to flame at the netowrk for airing the show.
It caught fire when he (kramer) tossed whatever he used to light his cigar at it while it was in jerry's car.
The episode is not banned is Australia. I've seen it many times on TV since all the drama about it.
"H.E. Pennypacker" wrote in message news:3c331f50.2031847@news...
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"Tim Reece" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Not banned in the UK either. BBC2 showed last year.
Not Sweden either.
I see this on newsgroup headers sometimes.
What does the SV stand for?
Thanks --
Jay
When using a nordic version of Outlook, "Reply" is translated to "Svar".. The short for "Reply" is "Re" and the short for "Svar" is "Sv"
"J. J. Levin" wrote in message news:[email]...
"Bjorn T. Nostdahl" wrote in message news:fxHY7.38$[email]...
Yo yo ma!
;-)
Ian
"Bjorn T. Nostdahl" kirjoitti:
That is, when using the swedish version. The same kind of incompatible solution has also been implemented in the finnish version with "vs".
I don't think the "Re" is a short for "Reply". I think it has something to do with latin prepositions.
*Whew*. I thought someone was going to tell us it rhymes with a female body part.
East
"Bjorn T. Nostdahl" wrote:
Me too. Seen it recently in the UK.
"Tim Reece" wrote in message news:[email]...
on TV since
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light his cigar
"Mike O'Sullivan" schreef in bericht news:[email]...
I believe it was on in the Netherlands somewhere in 2000. Guess it's only banned in the United States (the land of the free....yeah right)
It's just that we've become so open-minded that our brains have fallen out.
"S.C. Harrison" schreef in bericht news:skKY7.16517$[email]...
out.
That's funny :P
Again, it wasn't banned--it was removed from the rotation by the corporation, which was *free* to air or not air any episode.
It's a true case of capitalism: they figured they'd lose more money from the protests and potential boycotts of the Puerto Rican community than they would from Seinfeld purists like us.
On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:08:42 GMT, "John Twernbold" wrote:
I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that it was the last episode before the finale. In the weeks before, the Seinfeld hype machine was, well, hot and heavy :-). The show was never more popular and talked about. Then this episode aired which was borderline offensive (as many episodes of Seinfeld are). Since the show was on the top of public consciousness I think the groups that complained saw a chance to gain some publicity for themselves and their cause. Please note, this is not meant to disparage Puerto Ricans, whenever a show becomes popular and is the talk of the country, groups often try to hitch a ride by complaining (see the protests by some Italian groups against The Sopranos). If The Puerto Rican Day aired earlier or the season before, there would have been a peep made about it.
Scott
Scott P wrote in message news:...
Actually, the same thing happened recently with a show called "Law & Order." You may not be familiar with it (I didn't happen to notice if you're from the states), but it features "stories pulled from the headlines" - as they like to state it. About a year ago, there was a show depicting a woman getting harassed and sexually molested during the Puerto Rican Day Parade in New York, which led them to a homicide by someone in the group of harassers. The Puerto Rican community spoke up and threatened to boycott the network if they didn't pull the episode from the rotation because they felt PRs were misrepresented as animals during the scene in which the young woman was getting harassed. I remember a few people voicing back to the network's (NBC again) decision to pull it, saying that this was an actual situation that really *did* happen during the parade. The only part made up was the homicide which the entire plot was based around, and they didn't have a problem with that at all. I guess they figured there was no way to deny that really happens (esp in NY). Why do a few rotten apples have to ruin it for all of us? Speaking of which, would someone mind emailing me if they have a copy of the episode? thanks, .ted
"Mailman" writes:
It isn't banned, the tv stations voluntarily deleted it from the shedule. They can show it freely if they want, they just chose not to show it. That's different from when something is banned.
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"Fidelio" schreef in bericht news:a11cqu$bbh$[email]...
Yes yes, that's already been mentioned 3 times in this thread. I thought it was banned too but apparently it isn't. But what it's about is that it's not broadcasted anymore. And that's a shame.
Mailman
"Fidelio" wrote in message news:a11cqu$bbh$[email]...
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show it.
But with exactly the same result.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:15:13 -0000, "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote:
But the REALITY is that NBC DID air the show.
All they said is that they would not show it in reruns - they had 179 other Seinfeld episodes to chose from and they were only showing reruns for a few more months anyway. Big Deal!
The show has been sold in syndication by Sony-TriStar and is being shown by any station that wants to.
NBC deflected a lot of local (New York City) political problems and defused the PR's opportunity for publicity. IMHO, - Good decision.
And isn't it a hoot!! Vandelay, Pennypacker and Varnsen.....LOVEIT
Cheers, Rob.
"Tim Reece" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Nor in Denmark. It's not the best episode anyway.
"Peter Fjelsten" wrote in message news:[email]...
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I'm in the "only saw it the one time when it originally aired" club. To me, it remains a kind of enigmatic 'lost episode'; I remember not being too impressed with it, also. A lot of the final season sort of 'lacked' like that. The meeting of Vandelay, Varnsen and Pennypacker was classic, though.
I'll download it one of these days...
-B.
Yeah I only saw it once as well. Been wanting to see it again but I agree the first time through i thought it was average. But not seeing it since makes me want to see it again anyways!!!
Brian wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:
Who is Varnsen? Judging from the company that you have put him in above, he is Jerry's fake identify or something, but I don't recall it or that ep. Refresh me?
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It is Jerry's alias. Jerry used that fake name in 'The Boyfriend I'.
It should be pointed out that the episode was never "banned from TV". NBC voluntarily pulled it from the rotation in the US in a public relations move after receiving a number of complaints from the Puerto Rican community. The government/FCC was never involved in any way.
"John Twernbold" wrote in message news:CwHY7.171597$[email]...
from TV". NBC
relations move
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there's no worse censorship than corporate censorship.
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:55:13 -0000, "Mike O'Sullivan" wrote:
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Yes there IS!
What, you'd prefer government censorship?
Mike O'Sullivan wrote...
You prefer government censorship?
I just watch this episode a few weeks ago here in Vancouver and I think it was even on a Seattle tv station.
"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message news:[email]...
"gr81" wrote in message news:...
In those other countries mentioned in this thread- where this amusing episode still airs- the people are smart enough to understand that if you see something that offends you, you can just turn it off.
But here in the U.S.- the land of centrists- most cannot grasp this. The mantra here is: "If I'm offended, then everyone else should be offended, too". (see: "If I think abortion is wrong, then it should be made illegal.")
Hardly. It's just that there isn't a large & vocal Puerto Rican community in any other country. You can bet that if a show would cost a foreign broadcaster money or give it bad publicity, it would quickly be pulled. On the other hand, if the act of pulling a show would cause an uproar (with the ensuing loss of money and/or bad publicity), it would quickly be reinstated.
Capitalism at work.
<<<In those other countries mentioned in this thread- where this amusing episode still airs- the people are smart enough to understand that if you see something that offends you, you can just turn it off.>>>
Yes...we Americans are just plain stupid.
(By the way..."The Puerto Rican Day Parade"....not so amusing.)
^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."
Does anyone remember what happend on the Puerto Rican day Parade a year or two after that episode aired? I think the show can easily be put back into the rotation now.
"fsbfgvsx" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Yeah, no kidding.
Didn't someone recently say that another TV show based an episode on that actual real-life event, and the PR community was outraged?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:42:30 -0600, "John Twernbold" wrote:
Yes. the show Law and Order did an episode similar to the assault incidents at the PR Day Parade. The PR community protested and the episode was taken out of circulation.
Scott