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"T@rA" writes: >

In a later episode Jerry runs into her on the street and calls her by her true name--Dolores.

And what does Dolores rime with????

CLITORIS!!!!!!!!

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"Ramon Gaddi" wrote:

Haven't we already had this conversation before? [next line please]

LGomes wrote:

I feel sorry for your girlfriend or wife.

On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Susan Hochtman wrote:

Since when has "clitoris" been pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable - "cli-TOR-is"? At least the connection between "Mulva" and "vulva" is self-evident. I'm sure many people were confused by Jerry's outburst of "Delores!"....

Brendan Bugeja

This may be the most over-argued question this newsgroup has ever seen. (Unless it's the debate over Newman's first name: He doesn't have one.)

Bottom line:

Dolores rhymes with one of the two accepted pronunciations of the word
clitoris.  The argument stems from the fact that many people do not
consider the 2nd pronunciation to be valid, regardless of the
dictionaries that show its validity.
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On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Dave wrote:

Which do you class as the "second pronunciation? "cli-TOR-is" or "CLI-tor-is"?

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When I was in High School ,we used to call a girl Doris the Clitoris. Rhymes fine to me. You are thinking too gramatically.

Tony

Grammar has nothing to do with it. It is pronunciation and the word is pronounced KLIT u rus.

Give it up, brother. You can't win this one.

THERE ARE TWO ACCEPTABLE PRONUNCIATIONS.

KLIT u rus kli TOR is

Always have been.  Always will be.
Merriam-Webster does not lie.
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A better name would have been Regina, rhymes with Vag...a [email] wrote in message ...

second

Rhymes fine to me.

Except that all the Regina's that I know pronounce their name Ra-gee-nah George

Any Latin scholar would pronounce "Vagina" as Vag een ah (that's a hard "g" by the way, as in girl or good... Similarly, Reg een a (hard "g" again).

And BTW, wasn't Cloris Leechman's name in the MTM show ripe for mispronounciation?

Phyllis Lindstrom?

I don't get it, but then again, I'm no Latin scholar.

Just a hunch on my part, but anyone who insists that the whole world is wrong, and he is pronouncing Vag*-een-ah (*hard G, mind you) correctly...well let's just say he's not seeing much Vag-een-ah, no matter how one says it (Let's call the whole thing off).

yeah we are talking about the way people pronounce words today not any Latin scholar would, and i guess this dolores-clitores issue would come back to haunt us for a while as others countries are catching up with the seinfeld episodes

Aleks Ozolins wrote...

Ra-gee-nah

[snip]

Actually, it's va:g-EEN-a - the first a is long.

The theory is fascinating, but there is a minor objection to it: The characters in Seinfeld rarely speek Classical Latin. Actually, I can't think of a single time they've spoken Latin, with the exception of Crazy Joe Davole, whose pronounciation was rather vulgar - more third century AD provincial worker than Late Republic patrician, in my opinion. Since they speak American English, perhaps it's better to look for words that rhyme in that language?

Still, it would be nice if Seinfeld was dubbed to Latin. I think that among those of us who can understand it, there are at least 3 or 4 who have a sense of humour.

Dave wrote...

think

That should of course be 'Davola'.

'Cassis' can mean two things: 'Net' (including both spiders' webs and fishing nets) and 'helmet'.

So, do you mean 'Net/Web for war', or 'Helmet for war'. Failure to explain will be a casus belli.

Chris Nyborg wrote:

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I did not see the beginning of this thread since I trash any Mulva or Dolores posts. So pardon my comments if they have been discussed here... But the Latin Elaine says always intrigued me too.

I believe Cassis Belli means something like - Prepare for war.

And I never understood why it was said.

The News Guy(Mike) skrev i meldingen wrote>

explain

Dolores

[snip]

'Casus belli' means 'cause/reason for war'. It's actually in the Oxford English Dictionary, and it's used quite often in the world of "diplomacy" (as in "Invading Kuwait will be a casus belli").

Cassis belli would mean either of the two things mentioned above - it's a common mistake to write 'cassis' instead of 'casus'.

I can't remember where Elaine said it, but there are any number of things that she would consider a reason for war.

There are two alternate pronunciations to the word, I've heard both used. One is that which rhymes with Delores, the other sort of rhymes with "bitterest".

On 7 Aug 1998, Jonathan Look wrote:

I realise> that there are two alternate pronunciations of the word, but I had just never heard it being pronounced as "cli-TOR-is"...I guess most Americans would pronounce it your way, and most Australians would pronounce it my way. This is just another example of where some humour is lost because of cultural differences.

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Lavoris.

In article , [email] (LGomes) wrote:

Hehehe! Sure, clitoris. I just have to clarify that being from a Latin derived language country, Portugal, we pronounce dolorEHs and clitorIHs! Therefore they don't ryme. Thanks for the massive awnser, look like this is a subject that no one feels unmoved...

LGomes wrote:

Hmmm... maybe it rhymes with "ass"?

In article , daphna maman wrote:

by her

Or "asshole"???