Was Final Button Scene Necessary?

Someone here wrote that a good comic routine is to refer to a joke earlier in the set, and that the button discussion in the finale was a hallmark to the pilot.

What good does that do when many (most?) ppl haven't scene the pilot? I thought they were merely rehashing again, as they did the entire episode. When I read here that it was a reference to the pilot, I realized it could have been funnier if only they made it plain to the general public (not just to you real fans) what they were discussing.

Jerry and Larry's whole plan for Seinfeld wasn't to amuse the public, it was to amuse themselves. It just so happened that the public got amused with Seinfeld. But I get what you're saying, but I don't think they intended the "final conversation" to be really funny.

I agree with you 100%! I think it was fun and maybe a closure for them to repeat the dialogue that was said in the pilot which initially not many peopled watched.

StnCldJR45 wrote in message >Jerry and Larry's whole plan for Seinfeld wasn't to amuse the public, it was to

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Min wrote:

It just like in the backwards episode where at the end of the show, when Jerry first moves into the building, he calls Kramer "Kessler", which is another reference to the first episode.

[email] (David Vincent Halpern) wrote:

It does good to the folks you know the joke. I believe (rightly or wrongly) that Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were rewarding long-time fans with the finale. If you've seen every episode, there were tons of small, subtle, "inside" references to the past. (Of course plenty of BROAD and OBVIOUS references, too.)

When they started the button stuff I felt great...it was a great great moment in the show's history, and it had come full circle...it was a much more rewarding moment than just seeing Kramer bounce around, for example.

Cheers, WT

WT Pfefferle, Ph.D. wrote in message:

I felt the Kramer "water" bit was the worst aspect of the show (which I loved). But since pretty much everything else on the episode represented something else (eg, the button conversation) was Kramer getting the water out of his ear at the end representative? If so, what was it? If not, what the hell was Larry David thinking?

     Actually it probably was pretty plain to the show's
regular viewers...since it's a reference to the very first
conversation that Jerry and George ever have on cam-
era (and most of us probably caught the pilot as part of
the syndication cycle, even if we weren't among the
roughly 19% of the audience that was watching the pilot
when it aired on NBC in 1989).
     the real joke is...look, these guys have lived another
9 years and they're still just as minutiae-obsessed and
superficial as they were at the start (and only dimly more
aware of it)...pretty good final comment about them, IMHO...

Bob Smith, afternoons WXXI-AM 1370, Rochester NY

[email] (Talk1370) writes:

I kinda interpreted the "button conversation" as: after nine years, they have finally run out of minutiae to dissect. Just as they were sentenced to spend a year alone together, they have nothing new to say ... the ultimate punishment.

Of Course the final button scene was necessary. The final stand-up in prison scene wasn't necessary. 1.)Weren't they supposed to spend 1 year SEPERATED from others. 2.)The final scene should have been the button scene, it showed how the gang's whole life was a prison. 3.)It sucked.

Chugman!!!!

No, the judge said that he could think of no more fitting punishment than to have them spend a year removed from society - meaning prison. He didn't mean solitary confinement. They were removed from society, not from people altogether.

Jaclyn