Festivus Pole...Aluminum or Aluminium

S09E10 The StrikeretroDec 18, 2005, 11:05 PM ET8 years later7 posts by 6 posters
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Incubus

I was wondering about how the hell to pronounce this metal.

In Oz we say Aluminium.

In America they say Aluminum.

So I found this:

http://www.word-detective.com/042702.html

And I can't hear them say "schedule" without picturing Santa in a shack.

Dear Word Detective: I have a question about which is the original spelling of the word "aluminium" (or "aluminum" depending on where in the world you grew up). I have been told that the English spelling with the extra "i" is correct, yet a lot of Americans swear that it is spelled incorrectly outside of the U.S. -- G. Craven, Phoenix, AZ.

Golly, can't we all just get along? Then again, I must admit that the British pronunciation "al-yoo-min-ee-um" has been driving me mildly bats since I first heard it on TV when I was about ten years old. I remember staring at the American spelling "aluminum" in a magazine shortly thereafter and wondering where on earth the Brits had found that extra "i." (While we're at it, the other thing that has been bothering me for years is the British pronunciation of "Nicaragua," which is along the lines of "nick-uh-rahg-yoo-ah." Something about that gives me the fantods.)

In the case of "aluminum" (as I will spell it because this is, after all, my column), we can pin the whole mess on Sir Humphry Davy, the English chemist who discovered the stuff back in 1807. Indulging in the perversity of which historical figures seem fond, Davy named his discovery not "aluminum," nor even "aluminium," but "alumium," basing the term on the Latin "alumen," meaning "alum," a substance drawn from the same mineral that had been used since ancient times for dyeing hides and the like. This is all a bit confusing, but we can take comfort in the fact that Davy was apparently a bit befuddled too. Around 1812 he decided that the proper name of his discovery was not "alumium," but actually "aluminum." Almost immediately Davy was besieged by other scientists who pointed out that if Davy would just add an "i" to make the term "aluminium," it would fall into line with such other substance names as "sodium" and "calcium" and, in their words, "sound more classical." So Davy named it yet again, this time to "aluminium," and the "ium" form became standard in both the U.S. and Great Britain.

Unfortunately, many people in the U.S. had evidently stopped listening by that point and continued to call the stuff "aluminum," and this spelling became so widespread that it was eventually adopted as the standard in the U.S. "Aluminium," however, is the official spelling used by international chemical societies. One hopes that Sir Humphry Davy, wherever he may be, is at last happy.

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And This which is kinda the same info:

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/language.html

Derived from the Latin ALUMEN for ALUM (Potassium aluminium sulphate). In 1761 French Chemist Louis-Bernard Guyton de Morveau proposed that ALUMINE for the base material of ALUM. De Morveau was instrumental in setting up a standardised system for chemical nomenclature and often collaborated with Antoine Lavoisier, who in 1787, suggested that ALUMINE was the oxide of a previously undiscovered metal.

In 1808 Sir Humphrey Davy proposed the name ALUMIUM for the metal. This rather unwieldy name was soon replaced by ALUMINUM and later the word ALUMINIUM was adopted by the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemists in order to conform with the "ium" ending of most elements. By the mid-1800s both spellings were in use, indeed Charles Dickens commented at the time that he felt both names were too difficult for the masses to pronounce!

The patents of both Hall and H�roult refer to ALUMINIUM and the company Hall helped set up was originally called the Pittsburgh ALUMINIUM Company. It was shortly renamed the Pittsburgh Reduction Company and in the USA the metal gradually began to be known only as ALUMINUM (in 1907 Hall's company finally became the ALUMINUM Company of America). In 1925 the American Chemical Society decided to use the name ALUMINUM in their official publications. Most of the world have kept the I in ALUMINIUM but it is interesting to note that the name for the metal's oxide, ALUMINA has been universally accepted over its more convoluted alternatives, ALUMINE and ALUMINIA.

Both ALUMINIUM and ALUMINUM have an equal claim to etymological and historical justification, and it seems that the difference in both pronunciation and spelling is likely to stay with us for the foreseeable future!

George.comIncubus

"Incubus" wrote in message news:43a7014c$0$15775$[email]...

i prefer a carbon fibre festivus pole. Even lighter and stronger.

rob

TonyGeorge.com

The actual pronunciation is Aluminium. The story goes that when ALCOA filed its corporate papers, there was a typo and instead of entering the name as the "Aluminium Company of America" they dropped the "i" by mistake and it became the "Aluminum Company of America". Hence, it's aluminium everywhere but in the US.

But whatever you call it, it has a "very high strength-to-weight"ratio just like the city of Milwaukee where we started producing Festivus Poles. You can view them at www.festivuspoles.com

TonyGeorge.com

The actual pronunciation is Aluminium. The story goes that when ALCOA filed its corporate papers, there was a typo and instead of entering the name as the "Aluminium Company of America" they dropped the "i" by mistake and it became the "Aluminum Company of America". Hence, it's aluminium everywhere but in the US.

But whatever you call it, it has a "very high strength-to-weight"ratio just like the city of Milwaukee where we started producing Festivus Poles. You can view them at www.festivuspoles.com

rstTony

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On 23 Dec 2005 16:27:37 -0800, "rst" wrote:

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rericsIncubus

At least it's not made of tungsten. Or wolfram, for that matter.

Rerics