No spoilers, everyone already knows the story.
Jeebus is born (immaculate conception).
Jeebus is crucified.
Jeebus is resurrected.
Some people actually believe it's a true story.
The Passion - No Spoilers
Feb 24, 2004, 7:02 PM ET221 posts by 44 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
🌀 Off topic🔥 Controversial
Thread discusses The Passion of the Christ film with off-topic religious debate about Jesus and comparisons to other religious figures like Horus, with skeptical and dismissive commentary.
221 posts
The Magnificent Bastard wrote on 24 Feb 2004:
You couldn't possibly be trolling again, could you?
:~/
"The Magnificent Bastard" wrote in message news:[email]...
Jesus is just those whacky 1 AD people's version of Horus. I wonder if Christians would believe in Jesus if they would just read 5 minutes about Horus.
--Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. --His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"). --He was of royal descent. --At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized having disappeared for 18 years. --Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated. --He had 12 desciples, two of who were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns"). --He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead. --Horus walked on water. --His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child." --He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa." --Horus was transfigured on the Mount. --He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected. --He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," "the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc. --He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion. --He came to fulfill the Law. --Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One." --Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."
Christians dont know why they say Amen at the end of Hymns and Prayers. Maybe they should ask what Osiris and Horus's last name is.
"Angle Subsided" wrote in message news:I7V_b.134$[email]...
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They say "Amen," because it means, "Let it be so."
righter wrote on 24 Feb 2004:
Don't confuse him with facts -- he's got this wonderful little fantasy world working for him -- and it's so much better than reality.
If you have time to waste -- and I've been that bored in the past -- you might want to check into a little background about Horus. You'll find the supposed comparisons aren't really there. (Or was that Mithras? -- who knows, it's the same bogus story every time. I've been told that Jesus was *really* a Hindu before.)
"righter" wrote in message news:%BV_b.3602$[email]...
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Horus lived around 3500 BC, there are temples from that period that show his virgin birth and there are many hymns in honor of him. One of which is dead on "the Lord's Prayer" It's all a big scam. Amen is Horus's last name and it was said at the end of all prayers and hymns to him. Stupid Christian.
"Angle Subsided" wrote in message news:ZiX_b.305$[email]...
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Why don't you promote this "religion" and make yourself the messiah? You could make a lot of money!
Your point? So it's based on a story centuries before. The entirety of the bible wasn't intended to be believed, but rather, like fables, intended to teach. Everything in it has a moral, whether good or bad. Those who believe in Jesus rather believe in the ideas presented by the bible about Jesus.
"Angle Subsided" wrote in message news:I7V_b.134$[email]...
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:20:27 +0800, "Tolo" wrote:
If you read "Jung" and the collective unconscious you see why the same fables and stories crop up in all cultures and societies throughout time. The Bible, The Myths, Star Wars, Hamlet... they all have common threads. - for example - the fatherless young boy redeeming his relationship with his father, with the "wise man' giving him direction - it's all there - each story based on human's inate understanding of our psychy. These stories were invented long before people wrote the Bible and will continue as long as people are here to read them.
"Kramer as Jesus"? Maybe
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No spoilers? Does anyone NOT know that "the Christ" gets killed in this famous classic mythology story?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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It's a classic, but it is NOT mythology. How do I know? Search your heart. Take what you've seen, and believe what it tells you about what you haven't seen.
What do you call people that fly in the clouds that have wings? What about the fire breathing dragons in the bible, or the unicorns? Those ARE mythology:
JOB 41:19..... Out of this mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot of caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
Revelation 12:3 "...and behold a GREAT RED DRAGON, having SEVEN HEADS and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."
Yup, just as many crazy mythology creatures and fantastic gods as in Greek Mythology.
Take what you've seen, and believe what it tells you about what you haven't seen.
You mean like all those real weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
You have been lied to, and are not smart enough to realize it.
Think about this. Had your parents given you up for adoption, and you were adopted by parents who brought you up in another part of the world where you were told about Buddah or one of the other religions, then THAT is what you would believe in, you would not be a Christian. That is plain stupid. Believing in a religion based only on the geographical location where you were brought up and brainwashed by your parents.
You probably belong to the same political party as your parents do too.
Start using your OWN brain for once and THINK!
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Wrong. I've been given sufficient evidence. The reason you haven't is that you've closed your mind to it. I tell you this, however: No matter whether you do believe or not, IF he exists, your non-belief in him will not make him go away. So, enjoy your ignorance because it too will end.
They call it "faith" when they can't produce answers.
"righter" wrote in message news:Rev%b.4037$[email]...
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whether
that's a pretty arrogant stance. You call non-believers ignorant like you're somehow superior?
As a believer, one could conclude non-believers are lost. As a non-believer, one could say believers are brainwashed.
As an impartial bystander, I'd say, time spent judging others is time that could be passed in more productive ways. Prejudice of one is only an indication of personal insecurity and/or superiority complex. In essence, believe what you want, but it's wrong to pass judgement simply because they don't feel as you do. Not everyone aspires to be you and it doesn't make them any less an individual.
"toad" wrote in message news:Kaw%b.2397$[email]...
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I say you are the arrogant one, who thinks he has no one to answer to.
You call non-believers ignorant like
Nope. Just unfortunate. I will pray for you.
And they'd both be wrong.
I'm not judging anybody. It's more like you're judging me.
Prejudice of one is only an
You accuse me of all these vices, when all I'm doing is defending my religion and my God. If I am ashamed of him, he in turn becomes ashamed of me.
In essence,
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You assume way too much. Why don't you draw your assumptions from fact. Thank you.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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I hereby spitteth out the hook.
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If blacks would never have been taken to America as slaves, but instead been taken to China as slaves. Instead of jumping up and down praising Jesus, the white man's european god, the same black descendants today would be praising Buddha instead.
Those brainwashed by religious cults need to think about how their religion and god beliefs just happen to be the same as their parent's beliefs and that of the geographical location that they were brought up in. The same way most idiots just happen to belong to the same political party as their parents do.
No one can think for themselves, they just do as authority figures and parents have trained them to think.
The fact that Buddhists never see angels, or Christians never see Greek Gods, should tell you what the hell is going on in your brains.
False. Prejudice against a cold hearted murderer would have nothing to do with personal insecurity, and a person may indeed be superior in that case.
But Prejudice against someone who thinks for themselves instead of believing anything told to them with blind faith is just idiotic and stupid.
Again, passing judgment against something that is wrong is ok and necessary. An idiot passing judgment on someone or something he doesn't know anything about is just being an idiot.
Impossible, since no such evidence can exist. You sound just like Bush who said he had sufficient evidence of Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Then all the stupid Americans had blind faith in that lie they were told too.
Faith in authority figures and what they tell you is stupid.
And the fact that evil exists, and that he allows it to exist, means that he is and likes evil and you are fucked anyway if he did exist.
Without man, what would god's purpose be?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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destruction.
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What movie was this from, If one does as god does enough times, he will become as god is?
I think Brian Cox said it as hannibal lecter in Manhunter.
I thought that degenerate may have said it in the Seventh Sign as well.
hmmm.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
You just don't get it. Sometimes, when you know someone really well, and they make it clear they're telling you the truth, you know it. You just know it. I'm not saying I could go into a court of law and prove it, unless you're just talking about my eye-witness testimony, but I'm saying that he has proven it to ME. You, I don't know about. But don't try to tell me what has and hasn't been proven to me. You don't even know me.
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destruction.
Don't lump me together with Bush. I hate that asshole. I hereby spitteth out the hook.
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"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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You'd be surprised at what has walked around and flew around in this world. Would it surprise you that, outside of this existence, the universe operates under laws contrary to the laws of science here on Earth?
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Produce all the unbelievable evidence you want. It will just keep you ignorant to reality.
haven't
I'm practically radical in my liberal beliefs and I am just as irate as you that Bush lied to us about WMDs. Don't lump all Christians into your neat little category. We are all shapes and sizes.
If there is a God as described in the Bible, and I instinctively believe and accept him, then YOU are the one not being smart.
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It does not matter where I was raised or how I was raised or what I believe. My belief alone does not make Jesus reality. Jesus is reality regardless of whether I believe he is or not.
you would not be a Christian. That is plain stupid.
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I think with my heart, not with my head.
"righter" wrote in message news:vgv%b.4039
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I'm not taking sides, but have you given thought to the possibility that you're wrong? I know the greater part of the world's population believes in some superior being, but there are many non-believers. There are many who used to believe and have lost faith. What do you say to them?
The heart can be misleading. Just look at divorce rates in the U.S. to pay witness.
"toad" wrote in message news:Iow%b.12754$[email]...
No, I am questioning the accuracy of the Bible, which, admittedly, was written by men, not God. God is out there, he just may not be as he or she has been written out to be.
I know the greater part of the world's population believes in
I say a prayer for them.
pay
You're beginning to sap my strength.
"righter" wrote in message news:VdA%b.4097$[email]...
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who
is it a generic prayer for the masses or do you know who you're praying for?
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is it a sympathetic prayer as if they're not as blessed as you for having faith, thus they were special when they believed, but they're not as special anymore and something bad will happen?
what if someone doesn't believe? what if they don't want you to say a prayer? what happens, what's the point?
not mocking, trying to understand your rationale. I get the feeling you have this superiority complex, that non-believers aren't as fortunate as you.
"toad" wrote in message news:KrE%b.15749$[email]...
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God knows who I'm praying for. It's not so much who's doing the praying as who you're praying TO.
Everyone could use a prayer. You may be more blessed than I.
thus they were special when they believed, but they're not as special
You're bombardment of doubt is sapping my strength.
to
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Enough already with the "I don't believe" statements. I haven't seen one shred of evidence that he DOESN'T exist. PROVE it.
"lad"??? So you're some crotchety old fogey who's bitter at the world and can't stand anyone who's found God who's younger than you? I just said a prayer for you. Rest easy.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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I knew you were going to try to weasle out of it. I guess I proved my point by default.
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"righter" wrote:
He's not weasling out of anything. Refer to any book on logical fallacies: You can't prove a negative. It's intellectually dishonest to insist that your opponent do so. He who makes the claim *for* a phenomenon must provide proof of its existence. The more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the proof required.
You are using language that is too hard for people that are tricked into following religious cults and surrendering their money to them. If they could understand this complicated text, then do you think they would be believing in gods in the first place?
My analogy of "prove my 3 ton invisible monster does not exist" was a much better way to try and get the idea across to a childlike mind.
Hell, what you wrote even took me a while to eat. Have to talk in simple English or you are wasting your time.
"Richard Evans" wrote in message news:[email]...
There's oodles of evidence that he exists. There's the testimony of millions of Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. HE has the burden of proof on him. I await his report.
"righter" wrote:
Fallacy of appeal to popular opinion: "Urging the acceptance of a position simply on the grounds that a large number of people accept it"
You really don't understand the rules of logic, do you?
Dick Evans
"Richard Evans" wrote in message news:[email]...
This argument need not continue. All that needs to be done is to simply wait till you die, or wait till the end of the world (as we know it), and my testimony will be either proven or disproven. Can you wait?
Since you can't discover anything after you die, that will unfortunately not prove anything to you or I. Neither of us will be able to say: "See, I told you so." Because our life will be over.
This is not based on THEORY, but actual observed reality.
Absolutely none.
Impossible, no human has ever seen any god.
There is testimony from millions of people in mental institutions that say Santa is real.
We don't NEED testimony for things that REALLY exist. Like the oceans, the Sun, animals. Those really exist and we don't need to rely on any one's testimony for them.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Lack of faith is a weakness.
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:29:06 +0000, righter wrote:
... says someone whose view of the universe would fall apart without relying on "knowledge" that can't be demostrated.
"Lack of faith is a weakness" = "War is Peace" = "Freedom is Slavery" = "Ignorance is Strength".
*Reliance* on faith is a weakness.
Are you trying to say those that have faith in the toothy fairy are weak?
Lack of faith in the tooth fairy or boogey monster is a weakness??
That is the sign of intelligence, not weakness.
Anyone that accepts blindly and has faith in something just based on what someone else has told them is a fool.
Like all those that believed Iraq had WMD.
And religion is an answer to primitive races that don't have the intelligence to figure out the answers.
In article , "righter" wrote:
Faith is silly.
C
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2g0p1$s76$[email]...
Better watch out. There's a six-headed monster waiting right outside your front door.
Ok, then I say there is a 3 ton invisible monster with 16 heads that lives on Pluto. Let's see you prove it doesn't exist without weaseling out of that!
If you can't prove to us that the monster does not exist, then I prove my point by default and the monster we have to accept is real and exists because you can't disprove it.
Bush (being a christian cult member) pulled the same trick on Saddam telling Saddam to prove that Iraq did not have the WMD that Bush made up and said existed to the world.
Bush said that if Saddam did not surrender Bush's fantasy WMD, that Bush would be forced to invade. Well, Bush knew Saddam could not prove he didn't have something that didn't exist, so Bush went ahead with his plans to take over.
"heads I win, tails you lose"..... George W Bush, Christian Cult Dictator
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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You are a man of questionable character and your testimony cannot be deemed credible, therefore you have not achieved a prima facie case that the monster exists. Once you have done that, I will then attempt to disprove your claim.
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"righter" wrote:
Variations on the fallacy of the ad hominem attack.
Abusive ad hominem: " Attacking one's opponent in a personal and abusive way as a means of ignoring or discreditng his argument."
Poisoning the well: "Rejecting an argument presented by another because of that person's special circumstances or improper motives."
Dick Evans
Speak English or go back to Mexico.
Truth wrote:
Are you really so ignorant that you:
A: Truly don't understand simple English and B: Don't realize I'm on your side in this discusssion?
I've said nothing that anyone with a high school education would have trouble understanding.
Or are you just so contrary that you'll take the opposite position of *anybody*?
Dick
I explained it last time, these people believe in gods, how the hell are you going to try and prove any points when you use words like you are talking to a lawyer? Would a child understand that and do you talk to children like that? Then how do expect god believers to understand you with such language?
Are you out of your mind?! In American public high school, most kids would not even be able to read what I am writing, they read at the same slow and hesitating pace as they did in 2nd grade.
Do you know any high school kids? Give them a book and ask them to read a page of it out loud, then you'll understand.
He's not a Mexican, he's from Uranus.
Truth wrote:
"righter" wrote in message
maybe you should pray for more strength
"toad" wrote in message news:NQP%b.1163$[email]...
I got a better idea. I'll ignore him. God helps those who help themselves.
How do you ignore something that doesn't exist?
Can one ignore the tooth fairy?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
themselves.
I don't know what you're talking about. Later.
Of course you don't. But when someone tells you there are gods and people with wings that fly in the clouds, you know what they are talking about just fine and have no problem comprehending things like that.
Perhaps he really doesn't know. Think about it, someone who believes in gods and people with wings that fly in the clouds and that the earth is square with four corners is not exactly a very intelligent person. Perhaps he is retarded.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Perhaps you're demented.
That would explain a lot of things. Like why most everyone else on this planet is so stupid and life seems like I stepped into the Twilight Zone.
Perhaps it is me and the rest of nature that is wrong, and you that is right.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Let me let you in on something. You are in the Twilight Zone. You're a space nerd.
right.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
What?
It wouldn't matter. If God is as the Christian explains, then he is all loving and forgiving and would not punish someone because they truly had no proof that he existed, especially after he never introduced himself to you.
But since the native americans of thousands of years ago never got to meet Jesus or know about the Christian god, they could not believe in them either and either you want to say that millions of them went straight to hell out of no fault of their own, or they got to go to heaven by default because there were no Christians around to tell them about Jesus or god.
When a child dies at birth, they never had the mind or intelligence to make a decision to believe in a god or not, yet a Christian will tell you that they get to go to heaven.
So then, you too can be a non believer and get into heaven. If St. Peter at the gates refuses to let you in, you just remind him that is discrimination and sue the bastard.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Your bombardment of doubt is sapping my strength.
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The same book talks about unicorns, fire breathing dragons, and states the earth is flat and has four corners. It also states that from a specific high mountain, it was possible to see every part of the earth.
If you actually READ the whole book, not just the parts the preacher reads for you in church, you can see that the people who wrote that book were not to intelligent, and it dates back before people knew the earth was round and not flat with four corners.
Therefore, nothing described in that book is credible, especially anything about a god.
And if you read the whole book and about all the horrible tortures and murders this god does in the novel, you would not be worshiping something capable of such evil and horror.
Sure it does. You wouldn't believe in the god you do had you been raised in another geographical location or by parents that believed in another god or were atheists.
Then likewise, Buddha, all the Greek gods, and the tooth fairy and Santa are also reality regardless if you believe in them or not.
Well said. That is why you will never learn anything.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Your bombardment of doubt is sapping my strength.
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Yes, as Canadians we believe Christ walked on water....but we just think it was in winter.
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:58:35 GMT, in alt.tv.sopranos, The News Guy(Mike) puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it's told -
Wow.........I didn't know they had Jeezus in Canada.
"righter" wrote in message news:...
How does telling me to believe something prove that I should believe it?
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It's up to you to muster the faith to believe. I can't do it for you, especially if you've got your ears plugged and your mouth a-jawin'.
"righter" wrote in message news:...
In other words, it doesn't.
Meaning your conclusion didn't follow your premise.
Meaning your point was moot.
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it?
In your case, apparently not. You might wanna try a little harder for the answers, I think.
Could you be a little more specific? What is my conclusion/premise?
I'll wait on answering until you have answered my question.
Ask yourself why you still don't have faith that Santa or the tooth fairy exist. No matter what you answer, I can just come back and tell you that you have your ears plugged and eyes closed and just need to have faith in those things and they will reveal themselves to you.
Use that analogy to understand how aggravating and frustrating it is when you come back with the same idiotic responses about gods.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Your but a tree that bears rotten fruit, and I will not eat of it.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Well if you don't stop projecting YOUR problem on others, you will never grow out of your deliberate ignorance. The next thing you'll do is tell me to follow YOU.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
me
Bite me.
In article , "righter" wrote:
How, if you're following me?
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gd63$u5a$[email]...
Ah,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!
In article , Jeff George wrote:
It's this obsession with having somebody to follow that's *your* problem, mate. Try moving around for yourself some time, you might get to enjoy it.
Cl.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gd5g$u5a$[email]...
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Well, if you prayed as much as I do, you'd know that God pretty much leaves most things up to me.
In article , "righter" wrote:
And... this tree, whose bitter fruit you refuse. Who created it, and why?
(sorry, gang, couldn't resist before I killfile the thread).
That reminds me.......
BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front? REG: F*ck off! BRIAN: What? REG: Judean People's Front? We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front? FRANCIS: W*nkers.
The only type of government that can possibly be fair to everyone would be a Libertarian Dictatorship where the dictator would only exist to make sure that Libertarian principals were stongly enforced and no one could start voting on stuff and making laws to prohibit freedoms and rights.
Libertarianism can never exist in a democracy style of government, nor can a Socialist. Because they will always get outvoted by the majority.
If you take a group of 100 people at random, the majority of them will be idiots and morons, yet in a democracy, the majority tells the few intelligent wise people how they are to live and what rules they must follow instead of the other way around.
A democracy can never EVER end up with a good leader either.
A democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
A dictatorship can either be bad or good, but at least there is the possibility that you could have a good one, you never have that possibility with a democracy.
Basically, a democracy style of government always ends up being an evil dictatorship anyway like the USA. Taking over other countries, overthrowing other governments, mass murders with weapons of mass destruction, etc.
The USA now has troops in Haiti and successfully got rid of another leader they didn't like.
I thought Syria or Saudi Arabia was next, guess they got bumped back in the list.
So, what is the score now?
Hitler took over how many countries, and Bush is at what now?
Hitler got voted in under a democratic form of government and it ended up a dictatorship, Bush is doing the same.
Soon he will stage the Bin Laden capture using photos and video from last year's capture and the stupid US citizens will wave their flags and give him another 4 years. With the second term, he will be able to finalize his plans to turn us into a permanent dictatorship, one that runs under Halliburton.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Well for someone who hasn't given his life to Christ yet, you're talkin' loco and I like it!
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
You should convert it into a religion. Then you would have tax exempt status, and you could exploit all these people who think there's a God.
In article , "righter" wrote:
They don't *think* there's a God because most of 'em only swallow that line because it saves them from having to think at all about thorny issues like ethics (they can substitute morals instead and thus feel qualified to tell everybody *eles* what to do as well); they *need* there to be a God, so they've made him up and tried to foist him off on everyone as some sort of real deal.
It would be pathetic, really, if it weren't so damned destructive.
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gd0e$u5a$[email]...
I will be the first to admit that many a Christian has gone astray, but that does not reflect on the glory of the God they worship. You don't really understand someone like me, and I truly don't understand someone like you. I became a believer way back in childhood, so it's hard to remember what it was like to be a non-believer.
"Truth" wrote
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Wha'?!
You mean there won't be a sequel?
Joe Myers "'The Passion II' -- This time He's pissed!"
"Joe Myers" wrote in message news:%bf%b.17309$[email]...
Oh, there be a sequel. But the details of it, not even Jesus knows. Only the Father knows.
In article , "righter" wrote:
They'll just re-release The Life of Brian.
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Although I thought Life of Brian was funny, your post wasn't.
"righter" wrote in message news:8Pt%b.4008$[email]...
If it starts getting on top of you, try shouting the following....
"HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!"
How can you not know that if you nail through someone to a cross, that there will be a big mess of blood?
If there wasn't any blood or violence, no one would go and see it. If they were seeing it for a religious message, they would be storming the churches instead of the movie theaters.
I find it amusing how the press are interviewing people asking if they think the movie is true to historic events or not!
As if it is really possible for someone to die and then come back to life several days later!
How come when they make a movie about Santa Claus, no one asks if the movie is close to the historic events of Santa Claus?
Jesus is a fictional character of mythology that could walk on water, rise from the dead, and float up into heaven, where people have wings and fly above the clouds without much air to breathe.
Yeah, that stuff is REAL history and actually happened!
What the hell is wrong with people?
Without man, what would God's purpose be? He would have none! Man created God to explain away answers to questions he didn't know the real answers to.
What if we all killed ourselves right now, or decided not to procreate anymore? When our species died out, what the hell would God do? Who would he have to boss around anymore? He would be forced to create more people, or else would have no purpose! He needs us more than we need him! (if he was real, that is)
Why do people say there has to be a god? Because they say, something as complex and amazing as human life just HAS to be something created by a supreme being. We had to be designed by a great mind, we couldn't just have appeared by chance out of nothing.
Ok... Then you would have to agree that something even MORE complex and MORE amazing that humans, like say, "GOD" would also HAVE to be created by a super supreme being and God just HAD to be designed, he could have just popped up out of nowhere or evolved from apes!
But then THAT god needs a creator to, and so on and so on and you have a never ending paradox.
How is it wacky Christians have no problem believing that God always existed and doesn't need a creator, yet the universe has to have a beginning and could not have just always existed?
The universe is not a container. Else you would have to explain what the hell it is that is outside of the universe. You know, the area that the universe is allegedly expanding into? Or before the universe existed, there was no elements to cause a big bang or for a big bang to occur since nothing existed!
People argue about whether the big bang theory or creationism should be taught in school, yet the idiots don't realize they are both the same exact wacky false theory! They support each other hand in hand! That is why the church ALLOWED the big bang theory and didn't chop off anyone's head when scientists talked about it, because it so agreed with the church's mythology about the universe being created.
And by the way, why is it that Christians don't realize that Jesus HAS to die, else there is no Christian cult and no one to die for their sins? They should be thanking the Jews for killing Jesus, else they would have no religion.
And why the hell does Jesus have to come back to life, if he is just going to heaven anyway?
All bullshit.
Here is some more bullshit direct from the bible:
2 Kings 18:27 Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
This message is so important, that god made sure it appeared twice....
Isaiah 36:12 Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
Malachi 2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces!
And thou shalt eat it as barely cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man..." - Ezekiel 4:12
"Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith" - Ezekiel 4:15
Is this indecent? Should children be allowed to have access to a book with such indecent material like this? What do I explain to my child when they ask me why people are eating shit and drinking piss and baking bread with shit?
The CHILDREN, what about the CHILDREN now?
People laugh at Greek Mythology with all their crazy fictional gods and crazy monsters, yet every bizzare fire breathing dragon or unicorn in Christian Mythology is REAL....
JOB 41:19..... Out of this mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot of caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
Revelation 12:3 "...and behold a GREAT RED DRAGON, having SEVEN HEADS and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."
Never will you see a preacher in church or Jerry Falwell on television quote or read this from the bible where Jesus tells us....
"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26 (Jesus)
You need to get yourself a girlfriend.
have you thought about writing a book, or have you?
there are many people who don't believe in God and are discounted by believers because they haven't read the bible, or opened their heart; they're labeled stupid, or whatever other condescension believers can muster.
but a person with an educated opinion who has in fact read the bible and discounts examples as you have could sell many copies. of course some religious fanatic may put a contract out on your life, but you may open some eyes in speaking on behalf of the many who don't believe in god (or to those who do believe and want to understand the rationale).
food for thought.
I've started writing a few books, but my main area of concern is sports and movies, not religion/theology. I've since switched to working on screenplays as opposed to books as a pastime.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is human nature, perhaps, to generalize and oversimplify what we know little about (Pike, 1992)
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On this subject, writing such a book will get you nothing but death threats and vandalism to your property, because that is what Christians do to people that write books about things they don't like.
It is the believers who haven't read the bible or they wouldn't still be believers! It was when I read the bible as a child that I discovered all the contradictions in it and was able to figure out it was all bullshit and that the earth was not flat with four corners and all that bullshit it states.
Most people that read the bible, become atheists. People that just own bibles to carry around and wave at people remain theists.
Not many copies, most people believe in god and are not going to buy a book that talks against it. People that know there is no god don't need to buy my book to convince them of that. Who would buy it? You and two other people.
The best place to publish this stuff is right here, so they will read a few statements here and there and perhaps finally see the contradictions of the religion. Since they never took the time to read the bibles they own, they surely would not take the time to read a book I wrote that the cover states proves there is no god!
If anyone wants to read about many of the contradictions and bullshit in the bible, all you have to do is search for the dozens of websites that give all the examples. Doing a quick google search, I found a few samples:
http://members.cox.net/galatians/tension.htm http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/index.html http://mywebpages.comcast.net/biblicalindecency/ http://members.tripod.com/ColoradoWeb/bad_verses.htm http://www.ToJustin.com/
That is the way most Christians are, so yes, writing such a book only gets one of them to shoot you. They pretend to be such good people with such great family values, yet in the name of god, they will blow up or set fire to a medical clinic killing doctors and firefighters, then say they did it to save the lives of embryos and fetuses who they value much higher than the adult lives of the doctors and firefighters who they murdered and the pain they caused to the families of those people.
Most wars and mass murders in the world are caused by people with strong religious beliefs.
There actually are several good books out there already, very hard to find in your typical bookstore on the shelf, you have to special order them or get them from Amazon.com Do a search at Amazon for atheist or atheism and you might find some good books with some good points.
I do have many book projects in mind on other subjects since I seem to know so much about things in so many areas that other people just can't seem to figure out. One being how all those elaborate crop circles are formed. It is just so fucking obvious, yet with the dozens of books out on it, not one person has got it right yet! And I am not talking about the faked man made ones, I am talking about the ones not made by stomping on the ground with rope and sticks. I won't mention it here, because like I said, I plan on making a book on the subject and am still researching dates and such to back up my claims.
It is so obvious as to how they are being made, I just can't believe no one can figure it out, yet I seem to understand so many things that no one else can seem to grasp.
Like the fact that the universe did not have a beginning and the big bang theory is the biggest joke in the scientific community, yet all these scientists with all their fancy degrees and such can't figure out something so obvious, I figured it out as a teen. Just by sitting down and thinking about it.
Key is, to not think of the universe as a fucking container, but as existence. Once you can grasp that and just think about it, the answers all become so bloody obvious.
Actually, they make things more complex and complicated than things really are!
Regarding books on Christianity, I'd recommend Bertrand Russell's classic essay "Why I Am Not A Christian." Wish I had read it when I was 12.
Z.
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:28:51 GMT, in alt.tv.sopranos, Truth puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it's told -
Actually, Santa Claus does have a history. There was some old guy in Germany that started giving gifts to children around Christmas time and that's where the name Santa Claus comes from. Somehow the tradition spread and that's why Santa Claus comes at Christmas.
Seriously.
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"Truth" wrote
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Wait a minute! You're not the "Cake Fart" guy, are you?
Joe Myers "A fetish becomes a sacrament."
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:04:28 GMT, "Joe Myers" wrote:
Ha ha! So funny, Joe!
Imagine... That's quite a calling card. "The Cake Fart Guy".
Almost sounds like a movie...
Doug
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Life is a river. If you ain't gettin' your feet wet... you ain't playin' hard enough.
In article , Truth wrote:
Killed, yes. But the spoiler is that he's only "killed" -- hence the scene where Judas walks past his grave and his hand shoots out of the ground and grabs Judas by the ankle, and Judas realizes IT WILL NEVER BE OVER!
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 04:34:39 GMT, Truth puked:
Great. Thanks for ruining for me.
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Well, I guess you didn't hear that he comes back to life. Hope I didn't just ruin the movie for you.
I like the part about the Jews being the bad guys. You never get to see that in any movies, they are always portrayed as the good guys.
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And he sees his shadow, which means six more weeks of winter.
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It sucks when jeebus sees his shadoe.
That bastard created winter. And all the other evil that exists in the world.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
I didn't know winter was evil.
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:32:44 GMT, "righter" wrote:
Obviously you've never lived in Minnesota.
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You obviously live in a very warm climate.
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"The Magnificent Bastard" wrote in message news:[email]...
What's this? MB does not believe in Jesus Christ? The next thing you're going to tell me is he thinks he created himself.
And all this has what to do with Seinfeld?
The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
I know Jerry once said "Oh, Moses smell the roses"... that is vaguely related.... I think...
George also exclaimed "Sweet fancy Moses!"...
(I know, I know, Moses <> Jesus, but hey, they're in the same book, kind of)
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"The Magnificent Bastard" wrote in message news:[email]...
Yes, it is true. And we should avenge Jeezus' death by killing jews, including the resurrected version of Jeezus. Also, since the Italians willingly carried out the Jews wish to kill Jeezus, we should start killing them too.
Kool, huh?
The Magnificent Bastard wrote in message news:...
You stole my Jesus fish, didn't you!!
And why not, what is so hard to believe about someone who is dead for several days coming magically back to life, then flying up into outer space?
And there is nothing odd or hard to believe about someone being able to walk on water either.
Hey, when people grow up into adults, they still believe santa can make reindeer fly right? So no wonder they still believe in Angels and Satan and Jesus and stuff.
It's not like Christian Mythology is just a story to get children to behave and obey their parents like the Santa Clause story.
"Obey thy Mother and Father" That commandment is completely worthless to an adult, they don't need to obey their parents anymore.
If you are good, Santa brings you presents, and if you are bad you get a lump of coal.
With Jesus you get screwed, because if you are good, you don't get presents every year, you just keep getting told that you will go to heaven and get your reward after you die, so the cheap parents don't have to buy gifts every year. If you are bad, you get to burn in hell for eternity, even though there is a loop hole that so long as you ask Jesus to forgive you, all will be forgiven and you can go to heaven too. You have to be a real idiot to get stuck in hell when all you have to do is use the loophole and ask for forgiveness when you die.
Also, both Santa and Jesus can see you when you are sleeping and when you are awake!
You have to be pretty stupid to not see how both were made up just to keep children to behave and listen to their parents.
Yet, when people grow up, they understand that Santa is not real, but for some fucked up reason, never seem to outgrow Jesus and admit he is no more real than the tooth fairy!
If you really really think hard about it. There is no way you can nail someone to a cross, let them die, then put them in a cave somewhere and several days later, the body does not start to decompose, but the person comes back alive again!
Come ON people! You think that can actually happen?
Yet you believe shit like that, and don't believe that Bush knew all along that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and allowed the WTC to come down so that he could make a reason to attack the poor people of Afghanistan and Iraq.
People choose to believe the impossible, yet refuse to believe or see the obvious that is right in front of them!
Yes.
(Government will provide all for you)
(Maybe there is a creator... Please observe His laws...)
Christianity, an alternative way of life...
"Jeff George" wrote in message
a rather general statement that includes you.
why do you think aliens are called intelligent life? because humans only use a certain percentage of their brain.
If there is intelligent life, I have to believe they're laughing at us. And the reason there is doubt about the existence of aliens is most likely due to the fact that not enough of them come to Earth because they realize we're a waste of their time. We're temps in this universe. They have nothing to learn from us.
Imagine if everyone was used more brain power than John Travolta in Phenomenon. If there is intelligent life outside Earth, then it's assumed they're smarter than humans and probably because they can do what earthlings only dream about. Traveling long distances in a short amount of time, possibly knowing how to make time stand still. There can be no doubt they use more brain power than humans, and maybe it's inherent. Humans are handicapped due to our constraints on brain use.
Thus, in the overall scheme of things, nobody is truly all that much smarter than anyone else on this planet, yet the game of proving ones intelligence goes a long way to defining character. go figure.
In essence, you're right, we are stupid. We're a race that's killing itself because we're too stupid to think of intelligent ways of preserving this planet while making better use of our resources. We're missing the point, which should be to find a way for eternal existence and join the ranks of intelligent life elsewhere. lol.
I would like to be alive 50,000 years from now after our race has become extinct and another has risen... one that is smarter. A race that survives under a different belief system. A race that works together on a worldwide scale for the greater good of everyone. A race that gets no satisfaction out of the judgement of others. A race, simply put, that understands.
We are but a spec in this great universe. We're insignificant. We will inevitably die and ultimately won't be remembered.
As with any stereotype, there are rare exceptions, and I am the one in this case.
Humans only use their brain as children. Then we get programed to not think using common sense and logic, but as the government tells us to, and then as adults, no one uses their brain for anything other than storing and recalling phrases they memorize from hearing repeatedly from the propaganda broadcasts.
Why is OJ guilty? Because of the "mountains of evidence" against him.
What is Saddam? "an evil dictator"
What did he do? "gassed his own people" has "weapons of mass destruction"
In reality, none of you ever met or knew Saddam personally, yet you are programed to believe he is evil and that he killed his own people. If you used your brains to think and research, you would know that it was the Iranians that gassed the Kurds because they used a different type of gas that Iraq was not given by the US, it was what the US gave Iran.
And the only countries with weapons of mass destruction are the USA, Russia and Israel, not Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.
Reptiles rarely laugh, and most intelligent life usually evolves from the much stronger reptile forms of life. For unusual different reasons on this planet that are too lengthy to get into here, it was the mammal form that became the dominant "intelligent" life form. The reptile species, like the dinosaurs, were wiped out and killed off unnaturally, and not via evolution or natural ways. Yes, birds are capable of laughter and practical jokes and they are reptiles, but it is the other reptile forms that evolve into the dominant intelligent species on most planets.
Mammals are too sick and weakly to usually make it to the stage we are at, and we will become extinct before we even come close to the intelligence level found on other worlds with all our going against nature with allowing the weak and deformed to reproduce, instead of only the strong and fit as we find in the rest of nature. Eventually on this planet, the intelligent life forms will again be the reptiles after our extinction.
You have no idea what is really happening.
If only you knew. Ever wonder why humans come in black, white and asian forms?
Brains can't do science fiction shit like that. They can transmit and receive from one another, but that is about the closest to science fiction you will get.
IF? Life is everywhere in the universe on every planet! It is impossible to get rid of life. You can go a mile under the frozen ice of the antarctic and find life. You can find life on the moon and mars. Life is everywhere you can't get rid of it no matter how hard you try.
Because they don't prohibit technological advancements due to illogical societies or religions. We still drive around in cars that run on gas and oil! Because the oil companies and the government that runs them would never allow anything else. We can't use stem cells to find cures because the church won't allow it. The others don't have that shit to get in their way, so they can actually advance in technology much faster without anyone in their way to be "offended" by it, or killing people when the advancement means an end to their business monopolies.
The distances are not as long as you think or are told.
Time is only a human conception and idea, just like math and numbers. Time is not a unit of measurement like you think it is. Time is ok for our use to estimate measurement, like when to go to work and such, but even with that, hardly anyone has the same time on their watches. Time is not a definite or stable thing for everyone, and is only a human conception.
I have no constraints on mine. I was not brainwashed and programmed successfully by our society, so I can actually use mine.
Oh yes they are.
You can't prove your intelligence to someone that is not as intelligent as you are. For one, there are thoughts and concepts that can not be explained to the less intelligent because of the limitations of the language and vocabulary.
Go to a primitive tribe that never seen a television set before, and try to explain the concept of television to them. You can't use words like radio waves, cathode ray tubes, capacitors, electric current, antennas, speakers, etc., because none of those words exist in their vocabulary.
Likewise, I have been able to understand concepts of the universe and existence that we don't have English words to describe, so I have no way to explain many things to you that I know about, just as you can't explain television to someone who is from a primitive aboriginal tribe.
Well, you are. I figured most of life's secrets out, many when I was only a child. I questioned everything, and never took anything I was told as dead fact. I used what other people said as a starting point, and then figured out if there were any contradictions to their statement or theory, and if there were, I labeled it bullshit, if it fit into the big puzzle without contradiction to other known facts, then it was accepted. Eventually, as you find and fit pieces of the puzzle together, it is no different than a jigsaw puzzle, you start to see the big picture and figure out what the hell all the pieces make. But if someone handed me a piece that didn't fit in the puzzle, I threw it away, I didn't believe it just because most other people believed it.
You probably don't want to hear or accept this, but if you would read "Mein Kampf" you would learn a lot about why our society is killing itself and causing it's own extinction. Don't immediately get emotional and not want to read it because of how you are programmed to react about the book, read it and see if what it says makes sense with observed reality. You may be shocked at what that book is really about. After reading it, I can see why our government doesn't want our citizens to read it. Yet you can be assured Bush read a lot of it.
I am impressed that you actually were able to make such an accurate prediction.
Only if the reptile or insect form becomes the dominant species again. Mammals rely too much on emotions and ridiculous societies.
That's not the way it works, but there go your human emotions preventing logical thoughts from occurring.
That just brings misery and pain. The harder you try for that, the more pain you create.
There is no god, and the bible is pure fiction, but the one story in it that is amazing close to an analogy of life, is the part about the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden. Without knowledge, people are happy. Just like a retarded person who laughs and smiles no matter what you say to them. As soon as you have knowledge and realize how things really are, your life becomes miserable and painful. Just like a wise scientist who you never see smile or laugh.
You can tell the intelligence level of a person just by looking at their drivers license photo.
That is a fact.
"Truth" wrote in message
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If you were so smart, you wouldn't be trying to convince everyone of it on a newsgroup.
Intelligence my friend, is in the eye of the beholder. You think you're smart, but humans don't use more than 10% of their brain. Thus, we are all stupid. very stupid. We're limited.
Think of it this way, you think people who believe in god are flat-out wrong and the facts are staring them in the face. Well, if there's intelligent life out there, they're shaking their heads for every earthling that thinks they're intelligent because the facts are staring us in the face. Nobody wants to believe they're stupid, but you are stupid b/c you have limitations. You think you're smart because you know about the meaning of life, or you've read books, or whatever else makes you brilliant within you're own mind, but you're still stupid. you're still limited. You're only using approximately 10% of your brain.
Somewhere out there, beings are using 50-100% of their brains capacity, or they have heads far advanced than ours and parts much more powerful than our brains.
We're inhibited by the limitations of our own minds.
Intelligence is not only the ability to rationalize and refute, but the ability to recount from memory and not one person can recount more than .0001% of the complete history that comprises their lives. Every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year of every decade of their existence. That's a lack of brain power. We're limited. The fact that you can't recount all your surroundings or remember every license plate you see, or every phone number, or every detail of every person's life that you walk by or encounter on a daily basis are all reasons to the fact that we are limited.
You think you're smart, you think you're smarter than others. You're only a legend in your own mind. Your own mind. If you want to prove your intelligence and superiority on this planet, and if you're so smart, then why don't you follow the lead of Einstein or someone who has made their mark and blow us away with something astonishing, not some book about crops. Blow our doors off baby genius. Einstein Jr. Open up a new realm. Go down in history.
You will not be remembered in the universe because humans are insignificants, but at least when you're on your deathbed, you'll have some satisfaction that you stood out amongst the ranks of the best the history of this planet has ever seen.
spouting off on a newsgroup or having a website won't do it truth. make your mark. don't preach it here. make it happen, then comeback and astonish us lesser mortals.
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Please promise us all that you don't decide to teach Philosophy. Will ya?
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No, but I drew feet on it and wrote "Darwin" in the middle of it.
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LOL! "I'm not the one going to hell."
The Magnificent Bastard wrote in message news:...
The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary's beiung conceived without original sin. You mean the Virgin Birth.
The Arranger
Mel's Passion Lesson
Whether it be Gibson now Or the Galilean back then, When you go against the power, You can really get under their skin.
DC Dave
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No, I was talking about the catch Franco Harris made in the AFC Championship vs. the Raiders.
Dear God, Hope you got the letter, And I pray you can make it better down here. I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer, But all the people that you made in your image, See them starving on their feet, 'Cause they don't get enough to eat
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It's an old XTC song. Sarah McLilithfair did a cover of it a few years ago that sorta sucked.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
It sucks.
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You're projecting again.
In article , "righter" wrote:
He can't help it, it's the specialty of religious fanatacism, it's what religion is built on: draw a line and call everybody on your side of it righteous believers, and then project everything you hate about yourself onto the people on the other side and call them heathens, Jews, Muslims -- and then it's so much easier to kill them, because after all, they're not godly "like us"; right?
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gdet$u5a$[email]...
It must be great living in a world where all the square holes are filled with square pegs and the triangular holes filled with triangles. Try thinking OUTSIDE the box. It's the in thing right now.
Looks like song lyrics to me; I like it too.
C.
And, of course, 'virgin' in those days actually refered to a woman who did not 'belong' (i.e. was married to) any man. Therefore I find it easy to believe in a virgin birth. There were probably a lot of them!
Brad
Mary had God's son, therefore God had sex with her.
Jesus is God in human form, thus Jesus had sex with his own mother.
Jesus is a motherfucker!
What about the Jews that make such a big deal about who's fault it is Jesus got murdered. Of course they are to blame whom else are you going to blame. It's like saying that it's not the fault of the Germans that about 6 million Jews got murdered.
It's 2000 years ago, who cares.
Paul
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Someone had to kill him so that he could die for mankind's sins and then be resurrected. I guess the Jews were handy and happened to be close by, so God had them kill Jeebus.
Or something like that...
If you shoot a person, and they go to the hospital, but survive and are now still alive, you don't get charged with murder because the person is not dead.
Christians seem to think that Jesus is still alive and pray to him today, so they don't think the Jews killed him, because he is not dead to them.
Jews don't believe in Jesus. Atheists don't either.
So who is it that thinks the Jews killed Jesus when everyone thinks that either he still exists or never existed at all.
Who thinks he was real, then died, and doesn't exist anymore? I don't know anyone like that.
Jews and Christians are too stupid to realize their religions are wacky and basically the same god believing bullshit lies.
Republicans and Democrats are too stupid to realize that their political parties are about the exact same wacky government that always lies and cheats them.
Wake up people! Time to stop believing in stuff and belonging to groups just because your wacky parents belonged to the same cults and gangs!
That's right, if the Jews had not killed one of their own, the Christian religion would not exist. This was an important event that had to take place. It was a script written by God. That's why I could never understand why anybody would be mad at the Jews. If anything we owe them gratitude.
The Magnificent Bastard wrote:
"P.K." wrote...
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I wouldn't exist if it wasn't for them Jews. I guess I'm grateful that my predecessors -- Jews and Christians alike -- fornicated and mated, irrespective of mumbo-jumbo religious orientations (basing choices more on hornyentation, I imagine). What's left is me, poster of obnoxious messages. What I wonder about Gibson's film is if it was supposed to be so true and accurate why does his cast for Christ et al look so darn White? People native to that region of the world in those times were dark-skinned -- they would have looked more like Yemenis than like Wonder Bread sales reps. Mel Gibson himself comes across as a total dork, in my opinion. His insistence that mass should be said in Latin is particularly dorky. What's his problem? His father is truly shameful in his grotesque anti-Semitic Holocaust-denying spewings -- has Gibson ever directly expressed shame over this?
No Christian has yet to explain where Cain's wife came from yet. The only woman on the planet was Eve, so was Cain a motherfucker? Did he fuck a mysterious sister that the bible makes no mention exists?
The only way all of us could come from just Adam and Eve would mean there was a lot of incest that had to take place.
Why not allow brothers to marry sisters and make a constitutional amendment for that since God obviously would approve of that. Even Jerry Falwell would have to agree with incestual weddings being allowed.
And why do so many blacks worship the white man's religion when if not for them being taken from Africa to the US as slaves, they would still be worshiping sticks and rocks, not Jesus.
Really? And what color skin did Santa Claus have? That history is just as real and credible as one of a man who can die and come back to life several days later. That is no more unbelievable than flying reindeer.
What about that western a few years ago that had Black Will Smith as a cowboy? How realistic was that? Or everytime you see a Judge on tv it is always a black woman and any chief of police happens to be black too, while all the criminals are always played by white actors. Does that follow reality too?
What about on Star Trek where no matter what part of the universe you go to, everyone speaks fluent English? Even in the USA you can't go anywhere without hearing Spanish.
If Star Trek can have aliens speaking English, then why can't another science fiction movie have people talking in Latin?
How can he be anti-Semitic if he makes a movie about the biggest Jew of all, Jesus and portrays that Jew as the victim?
If you look up the word SEMITE, you will see it does not mean JEW, it means YOU too and just about all races and people on the earth today.
If you want to say anti-Jew, then say that, don't misuse the word anti-Semite because that means a person who hates their own race most of the time.
Has Bush ever directly expressed shame over all the people he has killed because of his lie about weapons of mass destruction, or handing forged documents to the UN, or having the UN bugged?
If I make a movie about killing all the whites and the blacks turning them into slaves, would I have to apologize for that fictional movie? But murdering people in REAL LIFE does NOT require an apology?
You have a serious problem over thinking there is any harm to you or anyone else because someone makes a movie of pure fiction.
What about when on Star Trek they killed all those Klingons? Did the creator of Star Trek have to apologize for that too?
Blacks just don't know when they have a good thing. If any of them went back to Africa, the blacks over there would kill them. Over here they can fuck White women at least.
Truth wrote:
I agree with you and I was thinking the same thing. In those days Jews didn't have European genes like they do today and they would have looked like the Arabs that we see throwing rocks today. Mel Gibson did a movie based on childhood memories of a European looking Jesus that appeared in all the Catechism books and in church pictures. This just shows how shallow he is and how he didn't really do his homework. He's a load.
AF wrote:
"P.K." wrote in message news:[email]...
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You're insecurity reeks in your statement. I went to see the movie on Sunday. It was sold out for three hours. It's an important movie about an important man. Deal with it.
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:33:59 +0000, righter wrote:
He - more accurately, his story - is important to lots of people. Astrology is important and believable to lots of people, as is communication with the dead.
The number of people who think something is important doesn't have much bearing on its truth.
True. A real good example is the fact that many people will tell you that they have a problem with astrology because it says that everyone in the world fits in to only 12 signs and types of people and that is just to hard to believe. Yet, these same people have no problem with politic-astrology where everyone in the world is either a republican or a democrat. In other words, it is very believable that everyone in the world fits into only 2 signs, but not as many as 12.
At least with Astrology, an Aries or Leo can either hate Bush or like Bush. But with politic-astrology, if you say anything against Bush you are automatically labeled a Democrat or Liberal, when nothing could be farther from the truth.
Both Republicans and Democrats can see that "Bush is an asshole." (that is a direct quote from the President of Venezuela.)
"KK" wrote in message news:[email]...
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But you are but a human being. You know very little about the truth.
Very true. Christians should be thanking the Jews for such a wonderful gift, not hate them. Besides, how can you hate a Jew and love Jesus the Jewish carpenter?
Besides, doesn't Jesus the Jew tell them to forgive everyone?
Just as important as the event of Santa Claus making reindeer fly. Is Santa a Jew, or a Christian?
If Jesus came back to planet earth now from outer space, would he come back as a Jew or a Christian this time?
If Jesus was a real person that actually lived, then what was his last name?
Surely someone that famous in our history has a last name, and a place of burial that we can check his bones for DNA. Oh, of course, he conveniently rose from the dead and flew up into outer space so scientists would not have a way to disprove the Christians!
Gods uses to be stone idols. Then when science proved them just rocks, the god evolved into being the Sun. When scientists proved the Sun is just another star, they had to always keep one step above the scientists of the time, so now god is some invisible thing that you can't see and has no definite location so that scientist can never disprove their god anymore.
But it is up to god believers to PROVE their theory that THEY invented is true, not the other way around.
If I say there is a 3 ton invisible dinosaur located on planet Pluto, and then tell you to prove there is NOT, you can't do it. Impossible to prove that something does NOT exist. That is the trick the Christians use and the trick Bush used to say Saddam had to prove he DIDN'T have weapons of mass destruction that never existed. Impossible for Saddam to prove he didn't have something Bush made up. And because of that "heads I win, tails you lose" trick, Halliburton is making billions in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Haiti too.
Oh, and that contract with Halliburton to give Nasa drilling technology to find water on Mars was the only reason Bush cares about Mars.
The whole world revolves around Halliburton now.
If Halliburton could profit over the destruction of the Christian religion, Bush would make a constitutional amendment prohibiting the worshiping of Jesus.
Actually, the Christian god is alleged to say no one is to worship any other god or idol except him, so all the stupid Christians that worship Jesus, the Pope, or any "saints" are all going to hell according to their own God's words.
The stupid idiots can't even follow their own religion properly.
Yes, HATE the Jews, because that is what Jesus is.
Better yet, hate your family and yourself, because that is what Jesus wants....
"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26 (Jesus)
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:50:27 GMT, Truth puked:
Christ?
Absence of Evidence does not mean Evidence of Absence.
-The late, great stoner Carl Sagan
"lab~rat" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Exactly. If there is a murder, yet the police cannot find the culpit, does that mean they will have to conclude that there was no murder?
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:18:27 GMT, "righter" puked:
If there's no body? Of course, that quote was referring to ET life, not religious crap.
"lab~rat" wrote in message news:[email]...
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An all powerful God and powerful Angels could be construed as ET life. Wouldn't it be a burn on you if all the time you were arguing in favor of the existence of ET life, yet against the existence of God and Angels, they were one and the same?
Angels are humans with wings. They fly in the clouds with harps. The Hubbell shows no signs of them, and none of our satellites or airplanes have ever seen any.
ET life lives on other planets, religious mythology says we are the only life in the universe.
Does this really need to be explained? Are you a 5 year old child?
"Truth" wrote
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Okay, "Truth," tell us about the non-earth life *you've* observed.
Joe Myers "Flopping in the boat."
"Joe Myers" wrote in message news:o8X0c.4852$[email]...
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Yeah. Cough it up.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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The Hubbell shows no signs of ET life either. Does that mean they are mythical?
life
Whatever.
A five year old has better sense than you.
The ET life YOU are visualizing in your head? Yes, of course they are mythical. We have seen signs of life on Mars, under hundreds of feet of solid ice in Antarctica, recently life was discovered at the bottom of the ocean that could survive hundreds of degrees of heat in an oven, so of course life exists everywhere, you can't get rid of it.
A good way to prove this is too try to get rid of life, you can't.
Don't be a child, I already know what 5 year old reply you are going to come back with to that statement.
Yes, wherever there is shit, there is life ............................
Truth wrote:
In article , Truth wrote:
Not necessarily, but given that we live in the way-out boonies in a galaxy in the sticks where the stars are kinda thin on the ground, any life we might eventually contact closer in to the the center of things is likely to be heavily shielded against much greater concentrations of radiation from nearby stars, and so will probably look like -- large, hard-shelled beetles. So they might indeed have wings, but I doubt they'll look much like any human's idea of angels.
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gcm1$u5a$[email]...
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Should we call in the Orkin man?
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:57:31 GMT, "righter" puked:
Did you ever hear that song "Adam's Apple" by Aerosmith?
In article , "righter" wrote:
You don't read enough scifi. It's been done many times and is old, old, hat. Or old halo, maybe.
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gche$u5a$[email]...
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Caution: if you read too much of that stuff you will actually LOSE brain cells.
The fact that you are looking for a murderer means you DO have evidence of murder. Morons. If he had a heart attack, you would not be looking for a murderer, only if you find evidence of murder.
Here is a better analogy for you retards....
I say that there is a giant 3 ton invisible monster with 16 heads that exists on planet Pluto.
Now why don't you PROVE that it doesn't exist.
Go ahead and try, it is impossible. Just as impossible as it was for Saddam to prove he DIDN'T have the non existing weapons of mass destruction Bush made up.
By your insane retarded backwards logic, if you can not prove that the monster I described exists, then we shall conclude that by default, it therefore must exist, just like your god.
----------------------- YOU make up the ridiculous claim of a god or monster, and it is up to YOU to prove it exists, not the other way around.
How you can be so stupid is the reason that you could be tricked into believing in a god by a $$ hungry cult to begin with. How much money have they gotten from you so far?
Since Bush could not prove his claim of WMD, Saddam should be free to go. After all, Bush said that if Saddam turned over the WMD, there would have been no reason for Bush to attack Iraq. So had Saddam actually violated UN resolutions, made WMD, then handed them over to UN inspectors, Saddam would still be in power today.
The fact that Saddam is a prisoner of Bush's twisted regime is because Saddam followed UN resolutions and because Bush is a liar.
Feel stupid yet?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Do not make the mistake of coupling the actions of Bush with Almighty God. BELIEVE me, they are worlds apart.
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Nice, you avoided proving that the monster does not exist.
Still no attempt to disprove the monster.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Give me more than your word, and I'll launch an investigation.
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Ok, now use that same questioning and investigative approach to the theory on God and go through with it now. Then you will come to the same conclusion as the rest of us have.
In article , Truth wrote:
Uh -- which rest of us? The neopagans who believe in multiple deities? The agnostics and atheists among us? The worshipers of ideology, be it Communist, Capitalist, or other?
You sure look at the world through a narrow little aperture, don't you, if so many people are just plain invisible to you.
C.
Give me more than your word on God or Jesus. :)
I already spent decades on that investigation too. Nothing ever confirmed it, what we see are common people like yourself that are able to always give answers to every question given to them about God and everything he thinks and does things, yet there is no possible way for them to know or have any such authority to give such answers, because none of the answers come from observed reality, but they make it up as they go along. The proof for that is that two different people will make up two different answers as they go along.
Theory thus disproved.
Oh yes, Jesus H. Christ. So his mother was Mary Christ. And his step father was Joseph Christ.
So then what is all this now about "THE Christ"?
Do we call George "THE Bush" now too?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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You are talking apples and oranges. Bush is a cowardly, mentally-challenged son of a bitch who was appointed President and if he loses the next election, he and his fucked up contributors will eat the most putrid shit ever spewed.
Now that everyone knows that Kerry is a Jew, like Lieberman, no one is going to vote for him, so unless people wake up and vote for Nader or the Libertarian candidate, you are stuck with a Jew that will everything to continue fighting wars for Israel like Bush is doing, or you will end up with Bush, a Jew in white man's clothing.
In Jeus H, Christ, what does the "H" stand for?
Is it "Him"?
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:49:02 -0600, Postman wrote:
it stands for Horatio.
"Jack Black." <[email] > wrote in message news:[email]...
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No. It stands for Tiberius.
In article , Truth wrote:
Oh my god, you made me laugh so hard that I shot coffee out of my nose! Thanks for a great chuckle.
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gc65$u5a$[email]...
What are you doing drinking coffee at 3:47 p.m. in the afternoon anyway?
In article , SnapTrap@ouchyouf*cker.ork wrote:
No, "Christ" means "the anointed one". It was probably "Jesus Carpenterson" (to distinguish him from all the other Jesuses around at the time) in whatever ancient language was actually spoken in his hometown.
C.
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That language was Aramaic, you clod.
First of all you a stupid ass............. second of all Jesus was born a Jew so I guess he would come back as one. Third, When he comes back the Jews will accept him as their messiah and that will make all of them automatically Christian. The only difference is that for current Christians this will be the second time and for Jews it will be the first time he comes around. The bottom line is that everybody will now be Christian ....................except for you of course......... you will eventually wind up in hell.
Truth wrote:
So Jesus is not a Christian then? He is doomed to go to hell then if he does not accept himself as his savior.
What will become of the Buddhists, Native Americans, African tribes, Hindus, etc?
The really fascinating part is how you KNOW all of this! Christians always have an answer for every question about God, no matter what their age or the fact they never seen or heard from this God themselves.
You all just make it us as you go along, exactly how you WANT it to be.
Man always creates gods in his own image.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
a Jew so I guess
does not accept
I'm sure the rules are bent a bit, for Him. I'm sure he deserves it.
Hindus, etc?
They will go on being Buddhists and early Americans and finding their own path to the god energy.
Jesus was persecuted for going aginst the laws of how *everything* as interpreted by the early religious groups. They had grown corrupt and Jesus was bringing a message about how to live without being corrupt. The denizens of the Old Testament demanded a miracle as solid proof that He was right and He would not in order to set an example of how savage people can be in defense of "religion" as a signpost for us all.
always have an answer
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Any person has access to this knowledge. It doesn't matter where you are on Sunday morning or which splinter of organized faith you care to view it from.
The big alien in the sky told me all of this stuff.
Truth wrote:
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In article , "P.K." wrote:
Dream on, oh pathetic one.
C.
"Crowfoot" wrote in message news:c2gb9a$tu1$[email]...
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Nothing wrong with dreaming. "Dream on. Dream about the world we're gonna live in, one fine day. Dream on!" As for the pathetic portion of your lame statement, one day you will see that you were the pathetic one.
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
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That's your job.
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First of all, if someone is sincerely interested in proof of the existence of God and his savior Son, Jesus Christ, he will be willing to find the evidence and prove it himself. You don't have to do much--just believe. If you want me to do it for you, then you haven't met the requirement, and are thus still unsaved. However, if you are someone who is going to piss and shit all over my pearls, and deny anything I offer up, and is unwilling to search for the answers himself, then you can go along your merry way.
That's how it works when kids are told about Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. No evidence needed, just believe!
Feel stupid yet?
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
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fairy.
Ah, but there is evidence. The Tooth Fairy leaves a dime or a silver dollar under the pillow. There's a shiney new bike by the fireplace on Christmas morning.
When you grow older, you realize that the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus are myths.
God? Maybe "He" exists.
But what's "He" done for me lately?
Joe Myers "You hung your kid up on a cross. So...?"
Seems like then more people should believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa than in Jesus and God. Yet people seem to stick with the mythologies with the least amount of evidence.
Without Man, what would God's purpose be?
If we all killed ourselves, what would he do with himself? Create two more people? And if they refused to procreate and died? He seems to need us more than we need him.
That's because he only exists in the minds of uneducated humans. Animals don't have or need gods or religions, and neither do we.
He let you keep breathing instead of killing you like he would if he were not God since you are worthless.
Joe Myers wrote:
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Ah, "Christian" love.
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Funny how that evil statement full of hate can be said without them fearing that their God knows they made that statement and will be punished for it. But because even they know God is not real, they are able to make hateful statements and not fear the penalty for making them.
If priests really believed in God, they would know that God would see them all molesting little boys as he sees all, right? No one in the church could possibly believe in God. If they did, they wouldn't be passing around a collection plate either.
"The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference." - Richard Dawkins
He murdered everyone on the planet by drowning them to death, except for Noah and someone for him to fuck and start the whole incest thing again so we could all be here.
"Paul Konings" wrote...
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The greatest cause of antisemitism today are religious extremists be they Chritian, Jewish, or Muslim. It's all fucking fiction anyway. It's fiction Folktalkes. Fairytalkes. Mythology. A denial of reality and logic -- that is, "faith". Religion was started by people with biochemical brain disorders characterized by elaborate delusions and megalomania. Too bad we didn't have thorazine to treat their mental illnesses back then.
Don't forget the mescaline in the mushrooms too.
AF wrote:
Jews don't believe in Jesus. At least they have some intelligence.
Imagine all the fuss if a movie about santa clause came out and people argued which race was responsible for his death, or the story not being historically accurate.
How the hell can a fairy tale be historically accurate?
And who shot Lincoln? What religion was he, a Christian or a Buddhist? I know he was a man, so I guess we should condemn all men today because one killed Lincoln a long while back before any of us were around.
Black people kill and murder every day (So do Mexicans) yet we don't condemn all of them, why not?
Pretend that Jesus was actually real, and some Jew did actually kill him, just of the sake of argument. So what? What does him having been Jewish have anything to do with it, do all Jews kill all the Christs?
Would the Christians be angry if a story about Santa made a Christian character in a fictional movie kill Santa?
It is just a movie, just mythology, no one really killed anybody!
As IF a human could kill a god anyway right? If the Jews killed "the Christ" (new politically correct term I guess) which is also god in human form, then that explains why god never shows himself anymore to anyone, never parts the oceans, walks on water, writes commandments in flaming tablets of stone and talks from flying flaming bushes, because he was killed by the Jews and now there is no more god he is dead!
HAIL HAIL the supreme evil dictator is DEAD!!
Now we truly have the REAL freedom of "free will" without any threat of punishment if we choose the "free will" that the dictator doesn't allow us to choose!
And we can thank the Jews for killing the evil dictator! HOORAY for the JEWS!!
No, it's like saying the Germans would be responsible for the death of Santa Claus.
It never happened, it is fiction.
How can you kill a god?
Oh, and if the Jews killed Jesus, then who the hell are all the Christian's praying to and asking to be saved by if Jesus is dead and no longer exists?
If you can ask Jesus to forgive you, then he is alive and no one killed him, right?
If I pretend to be dead, yet am still around, did I really die? Can I blame someone for my death even though I still exist?
Humans are Sooooooooooooooooo stooopid!
I hope a beaner nails you to a cross some day.
Truth wrote:
The correct analogy would be that you hope I am able to make reindeer fly some day like Santa Claus does.
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
It's a good thing you're not human.
The Magnificent Bastard wrote in message news:...
And just as many people believe that Clinton told true stories when he denied assaulting several women. People believe a lot of false things, sir, and most of them have not a thing to do with religion.
On 29 Feb 2004 10:11:44 -0800, in alt.tv.sopranos, Carol puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it's told -
I bet you believe in space aliens and Bigfoot.
There is probability of space aliens, but no probability of a Christian god, because the story of the Christian god has too many contradictions.
For one, according to the word of god (the bible) the earth is flat with four corners. We have photographic evidence that it is not. So no god exists as is described by the Christian Cult.
Bush would be a good example. Both get upset and murder people when they are angry. Both Lie. God says do not kill, then he floods the entire earth and murders every innocent child and baby on the planet. And I am sure there were lots of women with fetuses in them that he murdered by drowning them to death too.
Then he lies and says yes it was wrong, but he will never do such a horrible thing again and will put a bow in the clouds to remind him of this. Yet we still see great floods killing millions since, and even sends tornados through churches in the south full of people worshiping him and kills them all.
What a sick evil dictator. Just like Bush.
Oh yeah, they both have weapons of mass destruction too.
He seems to be a lot more dangerous than a harmless Pee Wee. I think Bush is a better example.
This guy lies to us and says he is going to give us free will. But then turns around with a list of rules to follow or else we will burn in hell for eternity. That is free will?!
That's like a slave master telling his slave that he has free will to pick cotton out in the fields or can go and do what ever he wants to, but if he doesn't pick the cotton, he will get whipped until the skin peels off his back!
If the Christian religion was true, we would be nothing more than slaves of a dictator god who makes demands and expects us to live our lives as he tells us to! That's not free will, that is a dictatorship.
Why is it ok to eat meat today, but not on good Friday? Can I kill people on certain days too and not on other days? Either something is acceptable or not, all this shit about not being able to do things on certain days like Sunday is ridiculous.
The religious Christians are the reason we can't go to a car dealership and buy a car on a Sunday, we have to take a day off of work because the church won't let us buy cars on any day we want to.
Let's send all the Christians to Guantanamo Bay and start putting THEM into the ovens!
"Truth" wrote in message news:[email]...
god, because the story of the Christian god has too
with four corners. We have photographic evidence that
they are angry. Both Lie. God says do not kill, then
the planet. And I am sure there were lots of women
horrible thing again and will put a bow in the clouds to
since, and even sends tornados through churches in the
For someone who doesn't exist, he sure is busy.
Bush is a better example.
turns around with a list of rules to follow or else we
cotton out in the fields or can go and do what ever he
skin peels off his back!
of a dictator god who makes demands and expects us to
dictatorship.
people on certain days too and not on other days?
to do things on certain days like Sunday is ridiculous.
and buy a car on a Sunday, we have to take a day off of
into the ovens!
"Jeff George" wrote in message news:[email]...
god, because the story of the Christian god has too
four corners. We have photographic evidence that
You need to get off the welfare and get yourself a girl, mate.
Clinton actually exists. Jesus does not.
And political propaganda.
Religion and Politics are evil and full of lies.
Clinton tried to rewrite the Bible by telling Lewinski that blow jobs were not a sin.
Carol wrote:
"P.K." wrote in message news:[email]...
not a sin.
Oh, I get it -- you're one of those Republicans with a Clintion-fetish.
Why is it that everyone who says anything bad about Clinton is assumed to be a Republican?
I was always called a Republican by ignorant people like you, and now that I talk about the lies and evil Bush is doing, ignorant people keep calling me a Liberal or a Democrat.
You people think everyone in the world fits neatly into only two personality types?
Even Astrology gives us 12 different personality types, but Americanology says there are only TWO signs, Republican and Democrat, and everyone in the world fits into one of the two types of people.
Guess what? There are millions of people that didn't like Clinton and don't like Bush and don't like Kerry and didn't like Gore.
We are not liberals, or conservatives or democrats or republicans or right wing or left wing, we are just realists that judge everything with common sense instead of what our parent's political party tells us we are supposed to think.
What if your parents belonged to the communist party? Then YOU would be a communist too. If your parents were hindus, then so to would you be.
You don't believe in things and want laws made because of what you think is right, you want things so they jive with your parent's political party and religion.
Try using your own brain and think for once all on your own.
MB, you brought this guy in here. Now how about getting rid of him?
Yeah, and I love cigars too.
AF wrote:
If eating shit and drinking piss are not sins, then why would that be?
2 Kings 18:27 Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
This message is so important, that god made sure it appeared twice....
Isaiah 36:12 Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
Malachi 2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces!
And thou shalt eat it as barely cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man..." - Ezekiel 4:12
"Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith" - Ezekiel 4:15
Is this indecent? Should children be allowed to have access to a book with such indecent material like this? What do I explain to my child when they ask me why people are eating shit and drinking piss and baking bread with shit?
The CHILDREN, what about the CHILDREN now?
People laugh at Greek Mythology with all their crazy fictional gods and crazy monsters, yet every bizzare fire breathing dragon or unicorn in Christian Mythology is REAL....
JOB 41:19..... Out of this mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot of caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
Revelation 12:3 "...and behold a GREAT RED DRAGON, having SEVEN HEADS and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."
Never will you see a preacher in church or Jerry Falwell on television quote or read this from the bible where Jesus tells us....
"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26 (Jesus)
"If someone bringeth an asshole like "Truth" into thy newsgroup, let him be given mouth to mouth rescusitation by an eighty-year-old onion farmer."
It sounds as if you have a thing for shit.
Truth wrote:
Read again SLOWLY this time. They are quotes from the BIBLE, not me....
The Magnificent Bastard wrote in message news:...
Oh you BASTARD.
Just because we read the novel doesn't mean we want it ALL GIVEN AWAY!!!
On 7 Mar 2004 20:12:01 -0800, [email] (Hank's Still Drunk & Fun) wrote:
They made the movie into a book ?
"Jack Black." <[email] > wrote in message news:[email]...
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Why the hell wasn't I notified???!!!
"Hank's Still Drunk & Fun" wrote in message news:[email]...
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HANK'S A SKANK!!!