Cameo?

Oct 29, 2002, 2:34 PM ET31 posts by 17 posters
Question

Viewers discuss what a cameo appearance means, with examples from Hitchcock and other directors.

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Tomas Duke

What does caemo mean?

Bart TijmensenTomas Duke

"Cyrus Afzali" schreef in bericht news:[email]...

And even lines are not necessary. Remember the famous Hitchcock cameo's.

Bart

Mark WildenBart Tijmensen

"Bart Tijmensen" wrote in message news:3dbff020$0$46000$[email]...

And it's not just any brief on-camera appearance--it's an appearance by someone who's immediately recognizable. I wouldn't call my wife the extra's movie experiences "cameos" :).

ErBart Tijmensen

Dictionary definition:

Also called "cameo role": a small but notable part in a film, play, or television show, played especially by a prominent performer, often in a single scene.

Er

"Bart Tijmensen" wrote in message news:3dbff020$0$46000$[email]...

Jan BuxtonTomas Duke

Cyrus Afzali suggested that:

Doesn't necessarily mean any lines, see Alfed Hitchcock's cameos or Spielberg in Vanilla Sky.

Jan
Gareth OwenTomas Duke

Tomas Duke writes:

A brief appearance

Gareth Owen Table manners are for people with nothing better to do.
unknownTomas Duke

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:30 GMT, Tomas Duke wrote:

A "cameo" is a small carving of a person's face on a semi-precious stone usually put into jewelry.

In show business; A "cameo" appearance is usually attributed to a famous person who plays a VERY small part in a scene - it is usually for the fun of seeing them there or for them to be part of the production.

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Christoph Baudsonunknown

I believe the point is that a cameo is an *uncredited* appearance. You won't find Alfred Hitchcock listed as an actor in the credits, for example.

Cheers, Christoph

Mark WildenChristoph Baudson

"Christoph Baudson" wrote in message news:appaok$dva$[email]...

won't

I don't think a cameo needs to be uncredited. After all, whenever you see an actor listed in the credits as playing "Himself," it's usually a cameo, right?

Christoph BaudsonMark Wilden

It's a matter of definition. I think there has to be a difference to just a guest appearance (or whatever) to justify the existence of the term "cameo". Is it maybe a short word for something which brings us closer to its meaning? Maybe it's derived from "camouflage" which could hint to an uncredited appearance.

Cheers, Christoph

PaulChristoph Baudson

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Christoph Baudson wrote:

"No, you're way way off"

dictionary.com lists the derivation as: [Italian cameo, Middle English cameu(from Old French camaieu, and Medieval Latin camahtus).]

Basically "cameo" is a nice way of saying "bit-part". Well-known actors usually don't want to take bit-parts, but call it a cameo and it takes on a certain prestige. :)

unknownPaul

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:40:15 -0800, Paul wrote: ..

No, that is way off. A "bit-part" is not synonymous with "came".

A "cameo" only occurs if a very famous person does the "bit-part". Any ordinary actor doing a "bit-part" is doing a "bit-part", not a "cameo".

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Paulunknown

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, TheNewsGuy(Mike) wrote:

I understand that. I tried to make it clear that the word "cameo" was only used if it was a famous person, but maybe I should have phrased it differently.

Kramer's part in Woody Allen's movie was a "bit-part". Keith Hernandez's appearance on Seinfeld was a "cameo". :)

Mark WildenPaul

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I disagree! It wasn't a cameo since Hernandez was integral to the plot. A cameo is incidental.

Art VandelayMark Wilden

<<<I disagree! It wasn't a cameo since Hernandez was integral to the plot. A cameo is incidental.>>>

Like Letterman's appearance. (The Abstinence)

^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."

Tomas Dukeunknown

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:28:55 GMT, [email] (TheNewsGuy(Mike)) wrote:

Brilliant! Thank you.

Tomas

Gareth OwenDon Cooper

Don writes:

Its, like, rain on your wedding day.

Gareth Owen Come and see the violence inherent in the SysAdmin! Help! I'm being reniced!
unknownGareth Owen

On 30 Oct 2002 14:57:20 +0000, Gareth Owen wrote: ..

No, that's just bad luck, not irony . . . Unless your mate is a meteorologist and picked the date. Now, THAT's irony.

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Don Cooperunknown

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:

No, I mean, what's ironic?

Don

Geert Oosterwijkunknown

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" schreef

10.000 spoons, when all you need is a knife?

Geert

Art VandelayGeert Oosterwijk

<<10.000 spoons, when all you need is a knife?>>

These are Canadian references, right?

^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."

Gareth OwenGeert Oosterwijk

"Geert Oosterwijk" writes:

Thats just bad planning.

Gareth Owen Space people read our mail.
kcGeert Oosterwijk

10.000 spoons, when all you need is a knife?

"There is no spoon"

(cryptic referencec to a line in _The Matrix_)

kc

Jeff GagnonTomas Duke

It's a small rubber photographic thingamajiggy that shoots liquid instead of pictures. Usually found next to the wind-up teeth.

Hope this helps.

unknownJeff Gagnon

On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:32:34 -0500 (EST), [email] wrote:

Isn't there some kind of law against "webtv?"

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MARK SPECKTomas Duke

It's a walk-on appearance by a famous performer who, in most cases, normally wouldn't be caught dead doing television.

Some notable Seinfeld cameos: Robert Wagner and real-life wife Jill St. John (The Yada Yada) Jon Voight (The Mom and Pop Store) Corbin Bernsen (from L.A. Law) and George Wendt (from Cheers), who both appear in the episode where Jerry and George go to Hollywood New York Mayor David Dinkins (The Non-Fat Yogurt)

Best,

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NooneMARK SPECK

In article , [email] says...

Wasn't that Giuliani?

unknownNoone

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:27:05 +0200, Noone wrote:

Please clarify. - Was Dinkins in the episode too? If so, I will add him to my "celebrities" list.

Thanks,

Mike

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John Twernboldunknown

I heard that they filmed both Dinkins and Giuliani, so that they'd be able to use the footage of the winning candidate. As far as I remember, they only showed Giuliani in the episode.

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unknownJohn Twernbold

On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:40:41 GMT, John Twernbold wrote:

That's what I thought. Thanks

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