Fans debate whether the show portrays minorities negatively, with some seeing stereotyping in Asian characters and others defending the characters as complex individuals unrelated to race.
Did anyone else notice how the writing team seems to portray minorities in a negative light? Almost every asian character on the show is condesending and unfriendly. The african american family george goes to watch breakfast at tiffanys with are jerks too (albeit a complete stranger is impeding in their father-daughter time) any other examples either contrary or in support?
maybe its just me..
-CN
In article , [email] says...
"If I like their race, how can that be racist?"
"Chris" writes:
But that sentence is also true if you omit the word "asian"
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:35:50 GMT, "Chris" wrote:
Other than being Black, what do YOU think makes THEM jerks?
They sure seem hospitable, patient, generous and tolerant to MY eyes.
In article [email] (The News Guy(Mike)) writes:
Um. Should we be talking about this?
Almost too much so. Exactly how would you entertain a complete stranger who barges into your home after having learned your address off a video rental store terminal, Chris?
George is a jerk......he's bald......fat.....short......brunette....wears glasses......male....
Are you any of these things ?
Yeah......just as I thought.........
"Chris" wrote in message news:WMeU7.71647$[email]...
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Danny Hoch would agree with you...
EVERYBODY is in a negative light on the show. The black family you mentioned seemed nice, patient, middle-class and close. Is that bad? As to criticism that there are no blacks on Seinfeld, I think that may be a realistic portrayal. Not everbody has black friends. That doesn't make them KKK members. My black co-workers and I are friendly, but we don't hang out together. I certainly don't DISLIKE them. In fact, one of Seinfeld's best friends in real life is black comedian George Wallace, so it's not like Jerry is faking something.
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Maybe a few of the asian characters were sterotyped, like Chinese = Restaurant; Pakistani = friendly and condescending. Still, I don't find it offensive, just comical. Maybe exagerated, I give you that! As for the black family, I thought they were actually pretty silly - no one would let George into they're homes... I wouldn't! And isn't it FUN to mock ALL people? All we ever do in live is mocking mocking mocking!!!
Clara
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"Jupiter's Moon" writes:
He does have a point. Those people were rude and unfriendly. The black guy who George thinks looks like Sugar Ray Leonard is also very unsympathetic. The asians are always prograyed as unfriendly and unwilling to sell you their food, like when Elaine had to pretend to live closer to a restaurant to get food delivered and ended up in a janitor's closet.
R
On 21 Dec 2001 15:15:18 +0100, [email] (Fidelio) wrote:
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Wait a minute - Ping was happy to talk to China for George. His cousin contentedly, for a while, dated George.
The Asian businessmen in The Opposite were friendly. It was Mr. Lippman who insulted THEM by refusing to shake their hands.
Hey, they were just following the rules - It was devious Elaine (The Pothole) who lied about where she lived to get the delivery. They would have sold it to her if she came into the restaurant.
But it was Lu (The Race) who blacklisted her (can we say BLACKlisted any more?) and did refuse to sell her food, but that is because she complained about the order then lied about who the next order was for, and named names, so he blacklised Ned.
Certainly Kramers friends (The Checks) were happy, pleasant people even though they got locked in the drawers. And the Japanese TV executives are very polite though confused by the silly Americans.
No the Asians were not mean - it was the Americans who screwed up all the time.
What about Pinter's parents? They weren't particularly nice to Elaine. ________________________________________________________________
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In article , [email] (Sydney Assbasket ) wrote:
Huh? How so? They seemed simply personally revulsed by the notion of returning to India.
"Chris" wrote in message news:...
"Look to the cookie Elaine, Look to the Cookie"
including jewish mothers and obsessively clean single jewish comedians.
But the south American amazons in George's shower nozzle fantasies were very well portrayed.
Also, the illustration of a norweigan cabdriver as one wearing a fur and a furhat is _way_ off. :) (in the episode where Elaine & Mr Puddy travel Europe).
When I visited Oslo they did not look like that at all!
They don't wear horned helmets either!
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Oh great. It's the liberal PC Thought Police.
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No. Only liberals who see a racist under every rock would think so.
So is nearly every white person. You are paranoid.
"african american?" (uncapitalized) There is your political correctness shining through. The average black person in America never refers to themselves with this liberal label. And how do you expect them to react when some nutcase stranger barges in on them?
Get a life.
No more so than any of the principals. The series finale was a litany of how selfish and self-centered they really were. Everyone seems fair game.
Would you fix anyone you know up with George? People like him grow up to be serial killers. And it's hard to feel any sympathy for Elaine getting dumped over a box of candy when it's so much like something she'd do to someone else. She even brags about the trivialities over which she dumps people.
I wouldn't have let him into my house. But even if they were jerks, they at least tried to help (the story seemed just crazy enough to be true, I guess).
Besides, the family was very middleclass, almost Cosby-like, which was generally considered a positive image for minorities. (Some people consider BAT a bit racist for how Holly's upstairs neighbor was portrayed, speaking of Asian stereotypes.)