Seinfeld episode without Jerry? (was Re: My Family)

Apr 1, 2006, 6:18 AM ET46 posts by 14 posters
Question

Fans discuss whether there are any Seinfeld episodes without Jerry, concluding that Jerry appears in every episode while other main characters have occasionally been absent.

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Ian F.

"deKay" wrote in message

I've seen most of them and can't think of one - but cross-posted to alt.tv.seinfeld in the hope someone will tell us.

Ian

madrassasIan F.

I've seen the lot and can't remember one without him.

TheNewsGuy(Mike)Ian F.
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Never, but there were 52 without superman.

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Scott PIan F.

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:18:05 +0100, "Ian F." wrote:

Jerry is in all of them. There's at least one episode without the each of the other three leads but all of them feature Jerry.

Scott

Robot djIan F.

DUH! It WAS called "Seinfeld" Not "Alexander" or anything else.

StrutterIan F.

Wouldn't that be like watching Gilligan's Island without Gilligan? It wouldn't make any sense.

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osmiumStrutter

"Strutter" writes:

I hope you're not suggesting that watching it with Gilligan *does* make sense.

Strutterosmium

Only because of Mary Ann.

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TheNewsGuy(Mike)osmium

LOL!

Amazing that this is a TV show that has NEVER been off the air. I heard on a talk show that it has been broadcast in uninterrupted syndication for the past 42 years.

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StrutterTheNewsGuy(Mike)

I wouldn't be surprised in Seinfeld has the same streak going in 2031 or so.

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The ChrisStrutter

"Strutter" wrote in news:4pFXf.47844$KE1.36675@dukeread02:

There were a few 'Three's Company's' without the '3' :)

StrutterThe Chris

Yeah, I suppose the Jerry-less episode would have been possible, but Jerry was really the glue that brought the show together. It's unlikely George, Elaine, or Kramer would have ever hung out together in the absence of Jerry. Remember, Elaine and George had problems talking, and Kramer would just assume hang out with Newman as anybody.

The only "glue" to Three's Company was irony. Just have one of the characters overhear a conversation that makes them assume two of the other characters are having sex and Bam! There's an episode, right there.

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TheNewsGuy(Mike)Strutter

Right, and "Frasier" used the same cheap humour technique in a lot of their episodes too. Somebody would be told something in the kitchen then the misunderstandings would begin...

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The ChrisTheNewsGuy(Mike)

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in news:zFFYf.1835$[email]:

My God.... that's like 80 'Three's Company' episodes right there! :)

StrutterThe Chris

I thought it referred to the entire series.

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The ChrisStrutter

"Strutter" wrote in news:edHYf.55037$KE1.14889 @dukeread02:

There were a few episodes where Jack had to impress his boss at the restaurant... :)

The ChrisStrutter

"Strutter" wrote in news:v_CYf.54698$KE1.9966 @dukeread02:

Didn't the conversation always revert to, 'Did you ever see him throw up?'

Which was in STARK contrast to the 'Black and White Cookie' episode where he said he hadn't thrown up in like 20 years :)

StrutterThe Chris

Yes, but George knew Jerry in high school. If you'll remember, it was partly George's fault that Jerry never returned the library book, The Tropic of Cancer. It's not as clear to me when Elaine came into Jerry's life. I suppose she could have been around 20 years earlier to see him throw up, but she wasn't even in the pilot episode, so not likely.

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The ChrisStrutter

"Strutter" wrote in news:slHYf.55038$KE1.18325@dukeread02:

She wasn't in the pilot??? That, I didn't know.

TheNewsGuy(Mike)The Chris

She was in The Pilot, she wasn't in the pilot. lol!

When Jerry and Larry David began writing the series they first wrote a pilot episode, "Good News, Bad News". There was no Elaine character in it. They both admitted they did not know how to write for a female character. So, IIRC, when the series was picked up they got Jerry's old girl friend, Carol Leifer, to be part of the production and writing team.

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Mark MellinStrutter

In article , "Strutter" wrote:

Fourteen, from The Dinner Party (Feb 1994):

JERRY: I know, I haven't thrown up since June 29th, 1980.

In The Betrayal, George tracks their friendship back to the fourth grade, though in The Outing, Jerry claims they became friends in gym class.

Perhaps they met at a Tufts College mixer. Do we know what college Jerry and George attended?

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
TheNewsGuy(Mike)Mark Mellin

Nope, but it was not the same as Elaine.

What we know about "college".
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Elaine sat beside an Alex in Art Class. She knew Barry the accountant since college. Sally was Susan's roommate. Leslie says Elaine is the same as she was in college

But there is not a college connection between Jerry and Elaine.

Jerry had a 31 inch waist in college. Jerry and George went to the same college because (1)Jerry remembers ...in college when you passed Lettick the test out the window? You became a legend after that. (2) George: In college, maybe. Those were fun times. Jerry: Yeah, college was fun. Diane DeConn sends regards to George through Jerry Jerry and George were not roommates - George did graduate. Jerry knows Seth and Moochie from college.

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ErTheNewsGuy(Mike)

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in message news:4CQYf.2113$[email]...

They used to call George 'the little bulldog' in college (this revelation helped him to become Pensky material)

Er

TheNewsGuy(Mike)Er

Good one.

But Tuttle doesn't think he's Pensky material. Oh, sh*t my car's being towed. ;-)

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The ChrisEr

"Er" wrote in news:[email]:

Pensky?? As in 'the file' :)

TheNewsGuy(Mike)slatconsulting

He did wear a Queens College cap in The Barber to hide his bad haircut.

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The Chrisslatconsulting

slatconsulting wrote in news:[email]:

Wow, I went to Queens College... but you're right, I've seen Jerry wear the sweatshirt or tshirt..

slatconsultingThe Chris

The Chris wrote in news:Xns979C9119125E321740 @129.250.170.86:

fourth

class.

Yes, he wore the QC sweatshirt in the "Elaine fakes orgasms" episode.

The Chrisslatconsulting

slatconsulting wrote in news:[email]:

news:Xns979C9119125E321740

would

episode

wear

I need to get one of my old friends to buy me one.... Though I think they sell them on their site now...

Erslatconsulting

"slatconsulting" wrote in message news:[email]...

Oh please. Do you know what you are talking about? Because I don't think, you know, what you're talking about.

Er

TheNewsGuy(Mike)Er

Please don't send binaries (embedded images) in this newsgroup. Many ISP's will cancel a newsgroup if the bandwidth due to images, etc. gets two large. They have "binaries" newsgroups to handle them.

Thanks,

Mike

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ErTheNewsGuy(Mike)

"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote in message news:mCTYf.2080$[email]...

Mike,

I am *so* disappointed in you!

"two large"?

That's almost as bad as saying... hmm... how shall I put this... say... ALOT.

Er

TheNewsGuy(Mike)Er

You got me! I guess I was so upset. ;-)

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MartinMark Mellin

Elaine came into Jerry's life sometime after he moved into his apartment. The episode, I think it's called "The Truth," is where we find out that Kramer once asked Jerry to contribute to what turned out to be a bogus charity - in front of Elaine during their first date together.

Marty ...beautiful women...they're like Godzilla...and I'm like a million screaming Japanese...

nana2bMartin

In one episode, Jerry wore a Queens College t-shirt. That is the school he really attended and so did I. He graduated 2 years after me.

Nana

Mark Mellinnana2b

Ah, so did you, or any of your chums, ever attend college mixers in Massachusetts?

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
Mark MellinMartin

In article , "Marty" wrote:

Ah, so by using the timeline in The Betrayal [1], that would have been 1984 or after.

Perhaps they were acquainted before they started dating? Though, in retrospect, it might be unlikely to start dating someone _after_ you've seen them throw up. Good catch!

  • Mark

[1] Two years before the group's 1997 trip to India, Nina is explaining the World Wide Web to Jerry. This matches the year Netscape went public, so it seems plausible. Eleven years before that, Jerry moves in across the hall from "Kessler."

Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
MartinMark Mellin

You're right! Jerry must have moved into his apartment in 1984. So it makes sense. In the episode The Dog, Elaine tells George that she moved to New York (from Baltimore where she has a sister that she visits in another episode) in 1985. George even counts out the six years on his fingers which takes him to the year of the episode-1991. Therefore, Jerry moves in across from Kramer, and within a year starts dating Elaine. The fact that he tries to impress her with his donating to Kramer's charity clinches the fact that they proably didn't know each other before hand, or else she would have seen through that - as two magicians trying to impress each other with tricks that they each know how to do. 8>/

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osmiumMartin

"Marty" writes:

Talk about excruciating minutiae! This is like watching Seinfeld. LOL,

Ian F.osmium

"osmium" wrote in message news:[email]...

And it's all my fault...*sob*

Ian

Mark MellinIan F.

Not to fret. As Mike so well put it (and George before him):

"This is what we do."

  • Mark
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ErThe Chris

"The Chris" wrote in message news:[email]...

I believe he said "The 80's vomit", which could be anywhere between 5 and 15 years before the black and white cookie incident.

My memory could be wrong though. And I hope I credited the right person for the above quote. Maybe it was Karl's. We wouldn't any false-crediting going on here. Mustn't credit falsely.

Er

The ChrisEr

"Er" wrote in news:[email]:

Didn't he make a comment like 'XX years... down the drain'.... I thought that dated it :)

BrianStrutter

just assume? What does that mean?

StrutterBrian

"Just assume" is an eggcorn (as opposed to an acorn). Figure it out.

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