Mr. Kramer

S04E05 The Wallet (1)liveSep 23, 1992, 1:11 PM ET1 hours after the credits9 posts by 9 posters
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Tony Travaglini

I have been waiting for this subject to be broached but so far no one's mentioned anything.

In the courtroom scene when What's-his-name is grilling Kramer he calls him 'Mr. Kramer'. Does this answer the question about Kramer's name? Or can we all decide that this does not answer anything.

Tony Travaglini [email]
DR. JAZZTony Travaglini

Good day good people!

In article , [email] (Tony Travaglini) writes...

Hmmmm...could be.  But then again I sometimes put "Mr." in front of guys' first
names just for the hell of it.  Of course, "just for the hell of it" doesn't
work in most courtrooms.  Maybe his real name is Yo Yo Ma?
Later!
Amy
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Wendell R. RicksDR. JAZZ

[email] (Amy L Levine) writes:

I thought this mystery was solved when someone remembered his mother being referred to as Babs Kramer in the episode where he was after the coat.

wrr

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Thomas J LohmanTony Travaglini

In article [email] (Tony Travaglini) writes:

This answers what we already knew. Logic dictates that it is his last name. That isn't the mystery...the mystery is what the heck is his first name?

--tom
Andy LowryThomas J Lohman

Could be Kramer. As in Kramer Kramer. My brother actually knows somebody who was named George George George. Come to think of it, haven't I heard Jerry, on occasion, plaintively uttering, "Kramer Kramer Kramer"?

Andy Lowry, [email], (914) 784-7925 IBM Research, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
David MauriceAndy Lowry

Guys, Guys, Guys...

The answer is so simple it is a work of pure and utter genius.

Kramer is obviously both his first *and* last names. It's his middle name they have been keeping secret. With what we know about Seinfeld's penchant for using subtle referances to the rest of popular culture, his MIDDLE name becomes evident:

Kramer vs. Kramer. Right from that Hoffman movie of the same title a few (10?) years back.

I hope this sheds new light on the subject.

dave.

Mark ShneyderAndy Lowry

If Martina Navratilova was only known by 'Navratilova' that Kramer's first-last name thread would be NOTHING by comparison!

-Mark

young-sup leeTony Travaglini

once and (but not) for all: here's my 2 cents...

jerry's dad called kramer: "MR. KRAMER" -- does this solve the question?

answer: NO -- because of 2 anecdotes:

(1)  My ex-roommate's wife calls him MR. ROB even though that is his first
     name.  my girlfriend calls me the english equivalent of MR. YOUNG-SUP,
     my first name.  yes; i'll agree that they never called us that in a
     court of law.

(2) Eartha Kitt (the tongue rrrrrrolling Catwoman on tv's batman) has a daughter named Kitt Shapiro (married name).

conclusion: anything's possible and it still doesn't really matter.

show's twist: when elaine's psychologist asked her if that was his first name or last name, i smiled...

young

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whareyoung-sup lee

Ah-hah! But remember the episode when Jerry called Kramer's mom -- he asked for "Mrs. Kramer"....

Hmmmm....
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