The End Of Seinfeld

S09E08 The BetrayalliveNov 28, 19978 days later42 posts by 27 posters
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Ethan Porter

This season is just so sad... it's like the end of an era. When I watch it I feel like I am looking through my grandma's photo album...images from a better time.

This season is so over-the-top. The Backwards episode (The Betrayal) was a retard. It was pointless and a stupid to drive up ratings at the end of November Sweeps, the most important time in the tv industry, ratings-wise.

Should they call it quits? No-they still have Richards and Dryfuss. The talent is still there. The show will bring in 300 million for NBC this year... why spend a few pennies getting some good writers?

Ethan you should know better...it's no longer PC to call something a retard. You should say that that episode was "otherly advantaged"...or even the out-moded "developmentally delayed".

Anyway old chum, you sound like a bit of a retard yourself. If you don't care for the show, go watch something else. Maybe Dharma and Greg is more your speed. Better yet, why not just curl up with a good book...turn the TV off so it doesn't offend you.

In my opinion the "end of an era" came after the NBC Pilot season. The show has been rebuilding since then. I thoiught that this year's season-opener was a riot.

why spend a few pennies getting some good writers?>>>>>

I thought that I heard Jerry say on Larry King that he felt lucky that he had a number of his original writers still with him. I could be wrong, though. Jennifer

Can't disagree more. What other sitcom would actually have the guts to build an episode on a Harold Pinter play-- and do a literate and hilarious take on the original? If we had any doubts, the last few weeks show that Jerry hasn't lost anything off his comic fastball. Let's enjoy the first class entertainment we're getting. We may not have it around that much longer...Jerry and crew decide next month whether to work out the last year of the contract in 1998-99 or say farewell next May. And Jerry's still very much on the fence as to whether to do another season or wrap it up this spring.

Bob Smith, afternoons WXXI-AM 1370, Rochester NY

Reading your post I am reminded of the understudy who cried during "Beaches" and when she dropped a hot dog.

This will be definitely the last season. Jerry ("Not thatthere's anything wrong with that." has announced that he wasn't comming back. NBC even offered him a record breaking $5,000,000 per episode but the answer was still no. This just goes to prove the truism that all shows come to and end. Perhaps NBC's gameplan will be to anchor Thursday around Mad About You, it's other hip urban show.

Why are so many people trying to save the Constitutiion if they've never read it?

Congratulations!!! You are the 1,000th person to tell us that this is the last season of Seinfeld!!! You have just won a free copy of the soon-to-be-released FAQ.

If anyone (esp. parents) watched the commercial free episode about the baby crying, you know this show has hit rock bottom.

DaveRecordhead
If you listen closely, you can hear NBC panicking.
Note the ratings this season, because it will be many
years before NBC enjoys the kind of success they've
gotten used to.
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Hitman3543Dave

No, I don't think they'll be off #1 for a long time. Even if they lose the #1 spot, they'll regain it back. They got all hit shows in Friends and Frasier and critically acclaimed shows like Just Shoot Me, Newsradio, and 3rd Rock From the Sun (also including Frasier and Friends). NBC won't lose the #1 spot soon, but the other networks will have a stronger chance of fighting them without Seinfeld. Its like the Chicago Bulls without Michael Jordan....

WadeB50030 wrote:

Personally, I think that the show should end this way: George wakes up in bed. He's in an apartment he doesn't recognize, or does he? There's a noise coming from the bathroom and upon checking, it's the sound of the shower running. He steps into the bathroom, and just as he steps foot inside the shower shops and the curtain opens to reveal SUSAN!!!

George recoils in horror and screams, "Susan! I thought you were DEAD!"

Susan pats him on the cheek and says, "No, George, it was just a dream. A horrible, horrible dream."

Matt Lupo

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AaronG. M. Lupo

A la Dallas, 1986, the dream season??

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Paul52751Aaron

better yet, have Jerry wake up in bed and he finds Mrs Costanza sleeping next to him

G. M. Lupo wrote:

That's a dumb ending. I think they should all get together and buy a house out in the country and just as they all settle down for a good night sleep, the house should explode like on the first instalment of the Lethal Weapon movies. Mercury switches. That's the mark of real pros. I also think they should get the albino banjo player from Deliverance. I just know he'd do comedy well.

DaveBill Bonde

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And you called the last ending idea dumb? Yeesh. [email] (Hammer nail here--> <-- for a new monitor.) (Remove XXXX to reply)

And not to be sarcastic or anything but what do you, Dave think is a good idea for the last episode of Seinfeld ? My idea for the last episode of Seinfeld has Jerry and the gang going to their usual resturant hangout, Monk's, and the gang arrives to find Jerry is not there and sit around in the booth waiting for him to come. They don't know that Jerry is in the Monk's bathroom and finds his shoes have come undown and one shoe lace is touching the floor and he doesn't want to tie his shoes and leave the bathroom because he does not like a shoelace that has touched the floor of the bathroom. Meanwhile, George, Kramer, and Elaine argue, talk about past adventures, and at various points one of them says they're going to leave the resturant but they never do. Then, near the end of the episode Jerry finally ties his shoelaces and meets his friends at their booth. Elaine, George and Kramer are wondering what took Jerry so long but Jerry says forget it. Jerry asks his friends, what they want to do, and they say they don't know because they thought Jerry was going to tell them what to do and Jerry complains that he thought the gang was going to tell him what to do. So, the whole Fab Four leaves Monk's resturant and wait at a stoplight to change WALK so they can get to the other side. As they wait, they start talking about this and that. The light says WALK and Jerry, Elaine, Kramer, and George all hold hands together, and are still talking as they walk to the other side. It should be at this point that the the show stops and we the audience are left with Seinfeld and the rest of the gang walking the road, talking about this and that, forever frozen in time.

Ronie J Whalen

Ronald J. Whalen wrote:

I'm sorry. I don't like that ending. Now, don't get me wrong, it's okay and all, but it just doesn't have that punch.

I think the show should end this way. It's ten years in the future and a Broadway-style extravaganza is touring the country about four people who sit around a coffee shop whining about their lives. One is an ascerbic comedian, another one a nebbishy loser, the other a woman who constantly has guy trouble and the fourth is a tall wild man with freaky hair. It's called the Seinfeld-mania. The show is starting on Broadway with lots of promotion, etc., when George and Jerry walk by the theater. George asks Jerry if he thinks the gang should go and Jerry says, "Nah, who'd ever believe it?"

Matt Lupo

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Sounds like an interesting way to end the series, but if feels waayyy too much like an episode of THE SIMPSONS. And to have Seinfeld, do another musical show like so many other shows have done on NBC (it was fun when Drew Carey did musicals, but recent shows like Suddenly Susan, Fired Up, etic doing them is just plain bad) that it would seem just plain cliched.

Ronald J. Whalen wrote:

I don't know, but I just don't get it. This show should not end without the main characters exploding. This isn't a question of taste, unless you are a maggot. This is about the right way to end the show. They must explode like on those magic shows where the magic guy hides in a box and then the box explodes but he isn't in the box but in this case they are in the box, boom, they are in little bits, Jerry, Elaine, Kramer and, of course, George, now just meat bits. All other endings are lame in comparison.

Bill Bonde wrote:

Hey, you're on to something here! At the very beginning of the show, Elaine can mysteriously combust -- why not, no one wants to see that much of her anyway -- and Jerry, et al. can be really spooked by it. At the mid-point of the show, either George or Kramer can explode -- whoever is least-liked by then -- leaving just Jerry and one other. They spend the rest of the show wondering if each other is responsible for what happened to the rest of the gang, then, mysteriously, they both explode! There's a pause, then Newman comes in with some sort of remote control device, laughing manically, as only Newman can. Then, on his way out of the building, Newman falls down an elevator shaft.

Matt Lupo

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G. M. Lupo wrote:

You know, you get started and these sit-com things just write themselves. I want James L. Brooks job.

Kramer gets a job and starts acting normal. Jerry tries to tempt him inot saying something Krameresque, but his responses are all 100% whitebread ordinary. Everyone is puzzled. Then George starts behaving like a grown-up, joins a gym, goes to a therapist, gets a job. Jerry and Elaine are puzzled. Then Elaine gets normal too. Assures Jerry it's nothing to worry about. End of show: Jerry gets sleepy and notices there's a giant seed pod next the bed. A moment of horror, then he shrugs, "Ah, it's probably nothing." And goes to sleep.

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"Mister Johnson, si chiede spesso la man...per avere il braccio!"

How about the 4 characters all wake up in a bed with Chris Farley, John Belushi, Gilda Radner and Robin Mirsky and they (the non-seinfeldians) say "you've gotta wait a long long time if you want to pull a hoax, like your off the air or dead or both!!!"

How about this:

Babu finally returns from Pakistan for his revenge on Jerry. Jerry, fearing for his life, flees to Florida to live with his parents. George (who would once again become unemployed a few weeks earlier) would be left to house sit for his parents during their long-needed vacation. He would also get a job, but I'll come back to this point. Kramer's mother and Elaine's dad, both of which have only appeared once in the show's history, would meet and fall in love, and eventually get engaged. Realizing that Kramer would now be her brother, Elaine starts drinking and becomes an alcoholic. But Kramer would be delighted. He would light a celebratory cigar, while telling George the great news. This would result in the cigar burning down George's parents' house (flashback to earlier episode). When they return and discover their house is gone, they decide that all they can do now is to finally move to Florida (a possibility which has been considered a few times.) When the Seinfelds discover that the C's are their new neighbors, they don't want to live there anymore. They take Jerry and go back to New York, where they stay at Jerry's apartment. Jerry once again fears for his life, but his mother can't imagine why. (How could aanybody not like him?) Meanwhile, Elaine loses her job because of her drinking problem. Newman also loses his job after ticking off the wrong person. (I know postal workers never get fired-- just go with it). This causes him to get "disgruntled" and eventually committed. George would find a new job as a latex salesman, for a company called Vandelay Industries. Amazed by this coincidence, he lets it slip how he has been using this name in the past. His boss, Art Vandelay, is not amused by this, and transfers Goerge to work in their headquarters in Siberia. After this episode, he is never seen or heard from again. Meanwhile, Babu finally catches Jerry at home. He doesn't kill him, but instead he has devised a plan where he would steal Jerry's identity, and Jerry would end up being deported to Pakistan in his place. Leave this to the writers to figure out. Babu would move into Jerry's apartment and kick Jerry's parents out. Having nowhere to go, they return to Florida, where they are forced to move in with the Constanza's-- the very people they left Florida to get away from. In the end, every character would be living a life of misery-- except for Kramer, who's just Kramer as usual. The show would be 97 minutes long, preceded by a Bob Costas special, and followed later on by the Tonight Show, live from the set of Seinfeld, with special guests Jerry, Michael, Jason and Julia. One twist I forgot to mention-- Bania would appear at some point to announce that his pilot had been picked up by NBC and was given the best time slot they had-- 8:00 on Thursday's (central time) to replace an unnamed classic hit sitcom that was about to retire. The show would begin with an opening monologue, and the plot would subtly refer back to various past episodes (The Cabin, The Pilot, any episode mentioning Art Vandelay, etc.) This way, they could have a recap of the entire series without getting too sappy at the end. The part about everybody living the rest of their life in misery makes it a typical "dark" Larry David plot. Don't you think? Comments are welcome.

"Early to rise, early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead." ---Yakko Warner

A good idea tying in a classic sci-fi movie to the ending, but as Seinfeld fan worth his salt could tell you, the only sci-fi movie that needs to somehow be tied into the ending is... Superman!

(insert Chris Reeves jokes here)

-Simon "I don't know about you, but I can hardly wait for Simon LeBon to die of AIDS so that Duran Duran can finally get the recognition

With more on that story, here's correspondent "Ronald J. Whalen" :

$ It should be at this point that the the show stops and we the audience

$ are left with Seinfeld and the rest of the gang walking the road, $ talking about this and that, forever frozen in time.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you don't work for NBC?

Bobby Tendinitis **_bedwarm(at)yahoo.com** "I posted it three times so people would see it!" - PuffCheeky, in

Better yet, why not make the last show the first "reunion" show. It's several years from now and Jerry lives in L.A. George, Kramer and Elaine come to visit and they spend the half hour reliving moments from their past together.

Then they all just blow up, they blow up real good.

Matt Lupo

G. M. Lupo: [email] P.O. Box 161963, Atlanta, GA 30321-1963 <http://www.webcom.com/hamlet/> <http://www.atlantajaycees.org/>

With more on that story, here's correspondent "G. M. Lupo" :

$ Better yet, why not make the last show the first "reunion" show. It's $ several years from now and Jerry lives in L.A.

Nah, Glasgow is funnier. They have lotsa fritters Over There.

$ George, Kramer and Elaine come to visit and they spend the half hour $ reliving moments from their past together.

Like the time they glued Kramer to the wind chimes? I remember that one.

$ Then they all just blow up, they blow up real good.

Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide; in a souped-up Chevy Nova in El Barrio.

Bobby Tendinitis **_bedwarm(at)yahoo.com** "I posted it three times so people would see it!" - PuffCheeky, in

how about a re run of the masturbation show. all the actors could do it ..in real time in front of the cameras.

bet u Time Mag..will not utter a word about that episode..

but the syndickations will run and run it again and again....

D.A. HackerEM$

EM$ wrote in message ... : :how about a re run of the masturbation show. all the actors could :do it ..in real time in front of the cameras. : :bet u Time Mag..will not utter a word about that episode.. : :but the syndickations will run and run it again and again.... :

LOL!!  :)

I, for one, won't miss the show -- I haven't watched so much as one episode all season. It's grown tiresome.

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I've already posted it weeks ago.
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James JordenDave

Jerry, Elaine, Kramer and George all suddenly wake up. They are in bed with Suzanne Pleshette.

Bill Bonde wrote:

The banjo player from Deliverance is booked solid, I understand. Personally, I think the Seinfeld gang should pack it all in and go to work for a cheesy British department store in men's and women's ready to wear. Then they can wear all sorts of bad 70s and early 80s fashions and make jokes about Maggie Thatcher.

Matt Lupo

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G. M. Lupo wrote:

Granted, my git friend, this is not a bad idea.

darBill Bonde

[email] wrote:

I liked the idea that someone had ... that they gang should go on a big skiing trip and, one by one, plow into a tree and die.

Sort of like that story attributed to Mark Twain, when he had written in too many characters in a novel. He had all the characters invited to a big party at a house with a huge hole in the back yard. One by one, the characters would step outside for a smoke, fall into the hole and die ... until he had pared the number of people down to a workable amount ... then the party ended and the story continued.

dar

must... play... tennis...

postmaster@[127.0.0.1] (Mike Cohen) wrote:

You know, noone has stopped to face the ugly prospect of spin-off shows. I want Elaine to work in one with women only. But stories with George or Cramer seem dead at the center to me. I like Newman as the centerpiece of the new NBC Thursday night.

Mike Rice

[email] wrote:

The first spin-off will be "L.A. Kramer". In it, Kramer and Newman will go to Los Angeles and open a detective agency. This will be followed by "Beverly Hills Costanza" in which George and Elaine will get married and raise a brood of whacky kids in the glitziest berg in the civilized world.

Matt Lupo

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With more on that story, here's correspondent [email]:

$ You know, noone has stopped to face the ugly prospect of spin-off $ shows. I want Elaine to work in one with women only.

Ugh. I was kinda hoping that the end of "Seinfeld" would be the end of Julia Louis-Dreyfus' acting career. Really can't stand her at all.

$ But stories with George or Cramer seem dead at the center to me. I $ like Newman as the centerpiece of the new NBC Thursday night.

Probably, but isn't he already in like 7 other shows? I can't picture him as anything past a supporting character.

Bobby Tendinitis **_bedwarm(at)yahoo.com** "I posted it three times so people would see it!" - PuffCheeky, in

Tree skiing seems to be the trendy way to go currently - sounds like a great idea I'm sure there's plenty of others we'd like to see go that way!!!! Clare

Well, how about this one:

One night Kramer gets an eerie urge to take a cab out into the country, where he sees this shooting star. He tells the cab driver to "wait and keep the meter running" while he runs out across these empty fields, after this reddish glow on the horizon, ultimately to find a strange cylindrical object driven into the hillside.

He pulls off his jacket to beat down the flames that are leaping out at him, and then notices there is a strange being inside the chamber of what seems to be a rocket. Kramer smashes out the window, and pulls the writhing body of a being ---- played by actor Paul Reubens (sp?) ---- out of the rocket, and just in time, as it blows up into a fiery conflagration. Now, Kramer and Paul Reubens return back to the cab, and Paul Reubens explains he is from Mars, and is the representative of a superior, advanced, telepathic race of beings, and that they will have to fix the rocket in order to get him back to Mars? Sounds like My Favorite Martian, right? Well, this would be a little bit different, because of Paul Reubens "quirky" personality, which Kramer never seems to notice as out of the ordinary. When they get back to the cab, Paul Reubens refuses to get into the cab because it costs too much, and they end up walking back to civilization....

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