George ending engagement?

Does anyone think that George will be able to get his finance back not that she thinks he is fooling around with Elane?

Slartibardfast wrote:

I hope not. I don't like her. And it seems he dosen't like her too much either.

When they end the show next year, Jerry and Elaine should have given it one more try. And George should marry Marissa Tomei. :)

<I hope not. I don't like her. And it seems he dosen't like her too <much either.

What could you possibly not like about Susan? She doesn't do anything annoying, she isn't mean to anyone, and she is generally pleasant and tolerant. Her engagement to George has been the only highlight of this otherwise below average season. But on the substantive point, I think that the engagement will stand until March 21st. The first day of spring is a Thursday and seeing how this is the date of their wedding, there must be an episode planned. It just works out too well to be coincidence.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

Maybe this will get rid of her once and for all. She's a real pain in the ass- I can't imagine any guy *wanting* to marry a girl like that, but then again we're talking about George here, and not just any guy. :)

<Maybe this will get rid of her once and for all. She's a real pain in the

ass- I can't imagine any guy *wanting* to marry a girl like that, but then again we're talking about George here, and not just any guy. :>

I can't imagine anyone not wanting to marry a girl like that, so I can't possibly even consider the validity of the rest of your post. But let me ask this, what do you find so bad about Susan? She doesn't do anything annoying, she doesn't act cruel to anyone (both of these in direct contrast to Elaine), and so forth and so on. Your position makes no sense, since the worst Susan could inspire due her lack of negativity would seem to be indifference.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

Maybe she'll get a makeover to look like Miss Tormei. Yeah, THEN maybe George would be hot for her ......!

Or maybe not.

I'm curious as to what you all would think if George does actually get married? Do you think that if would throw the balance of the show off, or would you welcome the change? I'm interested in your opinion. --NOELLE--

I would love to see George marry Susan. Susan is the only person i have see that endurers George quirkynes. If she could not, they would not be engaged. I also think that it would be good for the show. It could add new plot ideas; they could explore the every day things that hapen in a marrige. Just look at the 'World are colliding' eppisode this season. It was great. No matter what someone might think of susan, you might agree that there marrige would be..... interesting... for the show. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Sorokopud Carleton University Ottawa, Canada Email address: [email] ----------------------------------------------------------------------

(Alex Sorokopud) writes:

     And why would we want a character that" endurers George quirkynes",
or even endures George's quirkiness.The nuerotic behavior of George is one
of the great comedic aspects of the show.There have been a multitude of
shows that" explore the everyday things that happen in marriage."There is
no need for "Seinfeld" to become another.
     Those of you who seem to think that Susan is the greatest thing to
happen to this show all want to change the focus.It reminds me of
relationships where people are attracted to each other, and then insist on
trying to change the other person into something that they're not.
                                                 HF

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."

-Dave Barry

< Those of you who seem to think that Susan is the greatest thing to happen to this show all want to change the focus.It reminds me of relationships where people are attracted to each other, and then insist on trying to change the other person into something that they're not.>

As usual, you're denigrating remarks are masked in an absence of facts. Susan has always been the focus of the show for me, at least, so I don't think that I'm trying to change anything. All the marriage would do would continue the engagement storyline into next season, nothing would really change. She's not in the recent episodes much and its hard to believe that just because she and George will be husband and wife rather than mutual fiancees, the focus of the show would change. If anything, you're fighting a battle that has already been lost, since the 'focus' of the show was changed the instant George became engaged to Susan. The marriage wouldn't do much else on that account. In my opinion, the focus of the show should change, and Susan should be in it much more (and this of course means that George should be in it much more) while Elaine should be in it much less. The Elaine storylines lack any vitality and this is not just because of her unpleasant character but rather more the result of poor writing and lack of imagination. Incidentally, I don't see your analogy works at all unless the person you are applying it to happened to think that Seinfeld was the most important thing in the their life.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

I wrote, in response to someone else's remarks:

< Those of you who seem to think that Susan is the greatest thing to

on

To which [email] (JCS21212) naturally responded(as only he can):

As usual, your opinions are so far afield from reality that, if they didn't provide comic relief, they would be pitiable..."Susan has always been the focus of the show..."?!?!?!

Any comments regarding THAT statement would just lessen the absurdity

[email] (JCS21212) then goes on to blather:

be

Since the Susan storyline is of relatively recent vintage, with the exception of the few NBC-related episodes, and the lesbian episodes(which you, of course, choose to regard as an abberation, since it doesn't fit your fantasy) one can't help but wonder how you happened upon this show at all...?

[email] (JCS21212) winds up these hilarious comments with:

Since I can think of no one in this group who's opinion I value higher than yours, I better re-think my position...( if I didn't abhor smiley-faces, and oh-so-cool 'net abreviations, I believe this would be the appropriate place for insertion)

HF

Nothing shows a man's character more than what he laughs at. -Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

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Umm.... Susan hasn't been on Seinfeld for very long. She's had a small supporting role for less than 10 episodes. How can you say that she's always been the focus of the show for you?

-Gary

<Umm.... Susan hasn't been on Seinfeld for very long. She's had a small supporting role for less than 10 episodes. How can you say that she's always been the focus of the show for you?>

I must say that the education system in this country is disintegrating very quickly. Not even being able to count to 10. Absolutely pathetic. Susan has been on way more than 10 episodes, both in this season and two seasons ago when they had the pilot for NBC storyline. I started watching about then and I stopped watching when they cut her until last season, when I started watching again out of boredom and disgust with the rest of tv. Incidentally, if you doubt my words on the number of episodes, I would suggest getting an episode and counting. Also, her role is not small and is the largest outside of the big 4.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

Susan's role is not small, but I'd have to say that George's parents (or possibly Newman) have the largest roles outside of the big 4.

-V

(JCS21212) writes:

     I know I should wait on this, but I'm afraid your Suzi Q. may be well
on her way into oblivion, and your appearances in this group will, no
doubt diminish proportionately.
     Since you have never passed up a chance to infer that anyone who
doesn't share your absurd views is mentally deficient, allow me to state
unequivocally...YOU'RE AN IDIOT WITH NO IDEA WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE REAL
WORLD...There, that feels better...
     Now on to substance, you leveled this particular piece of misplaced
condescension at someone who obviously hasn't been privy to your incessant
rantings over the past few months.The fact that this person may have more
to do with their life than count the exact number of times that an
appendage of a character has appeared on the show, is no reflection on
intelligence, or education.
     Since all of your arguments pertaining to the Susan character,
ridiculous as they may be, are purely subjective, there is no point in
attempting to argue the hollowness of your arguments, so instead, lets
look at a couple of quotes on another subject...

"Forbes has an excellent shot at being the Republican nominee... Solid second place finishes in New Hampshire and Iowa, wins in Delaware and Arizona,will make it a solely Forbes v. Dole race ... Forbes has an excellent shot at being the nominee and whoever the nominee is will be president."

And then there was...

"You're ignorance of politics is appalling, especially since you pretend to know something by posting this... If you don't think Forbes will be the nominee, I assume you think Dole will be, and I can assure you the Republican Party is smarter than that."

     At the time of this writing, the New Hampshire results are not known,
but I feel safe in stating that your keen insights in this area, where
there is proof of how far afield your logic strays, are as accurate as all
your other statements.
          Thank You for your time...
                                               HF

Vanity is the quicksand of reason. ---George Sands

< Now on to substance, you leveled this particular piece of misplaced condescension at someone who obviously hasn't been privy to your incessant rantings over the past few months.The fact that this person may have more to do with their life than count the exact number of times that an appendage of a character has appeared on the show, is no reflection on intelligence, or education. Since all of your arguments pertaining to the Susan character, ridiculous as they may be, are purely subjective, there is no point in attempting to argue the hollowness of your arguments, so instead, lets look at a couple of quotes on another subject...>

I stand by my original assertions on the Forbes candidacy and poor turnout in Iowa is not enough to sink it. He will well in New Hampshire and this will propel him in Delaware and Arizona (plus keep in mind that New York has over 100 delegates and Forbes is the only candidate against Dole there). Forbes v. Buchanan, Forbes v. Dole, it all works out the same. When Alexander runs into the wall that hit Forbes last week, he won't be able to survive because he doesn't have the money. Forbes v. Buchanan v. Dole looks like what the race may turn out to be. As long as Forbes doen't drop out to prevent Buchanan from being the nominee, I stand by him as the Republican nominee. On your insulting comments regarding my intellect, let say this: the person to whom I was referring made his statement that Susan had been on less than 10 episodes as fact and this was crucial to the rest of his post, therefore he left himself exposed to criticism. Since you don't even bother to present opinions worth debating, since they aren't based on anything, it is very difficult to even begin to debate with you, but I will say that not all of my opinions are subjective and almost everything you have bothered to assert, is false.

"Since the beginning of time, mankind has yearned to destroy the sun and I'll do the next best thing: block it out."

Montgomery Burns

[email] (HighFlag) wrote:

You seemed pleased that Forbes isn't going to get the nomination. If it is just in being glaf that JCS is wrong, I could live with that, but if it is because you have something against Forbes, then I will be really disappointed. Forbes is in my not so humble opinion the best candidate in the race. He supports economic freedom, free trade, and is not under the thumb screws of the religious right. I don't know who you are supporting, or even if you a Republican, but Forbes is definetly better than the alternatives. I could live with Dole, but if that fascist Buchanon gets the nomination.... Well, I am a devout Republican, but I will not vote for Buchanon. I'll vote Libertarian if he ends up being the nominee. What this has to do with Seinfeld, I have no idea, I just saw some of the returns and Buchanon was winning, which really pissed me off. Elaine is a democrat. There, I tied it into Seinfeld. Peace, love, and corporate profits.

Brendan W. Guy

It just goes to show you how unmemorable Susan is. Not noticing her is understandable; I wouldn't say it indicates an inability to count.

I really hate to break this to you, but Newman is more important than Susan. Actually so are Jerry's parents. Actually so are George's parents.

Paul

HighFlag ([email]) wrote:

I do not want to change the focus of the show. They could continue like they have been, and still have George Married. Just look at the resent shows; all they have to do is subsitute my wife in for my feasia (sp).

(Alex Sorokopud) writes:

     The date with Marisa Tomei takes on an entirely different connotation
if George is married...
                                                  HF

"I know only two tunes; one of them is `Yankee Doodle,' and the other isn't."

Ulysses S. Grant

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Anyone notice that March 21st (the first day of spring) is a Thursday? Hmmmm....

I think a good Seinfeld plot would be for Susan's ex-lesbian lover to come back for an episode or two. That way we could see George at his normally insecure-neurotic best.

Just a thought...

Jennifer

On 17 Feb 1996, HighFlag wrote:

^^^^^^^^^ He who ridicules others' typos ought to be more careful with his own spelling.

No,no,no won't happen. Us Seinfeld watchers are sticklers for character continuity- we want our characters to be consistent. Hence when Jerry stole the rye many were questioning this bizarre act on behalf of George.

I am looking forward to see how the writer's end this engagement. Trying to make some guesses about myself.

We know George. We just know something is gonna happen.

--C.

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Look at how things are now, especially in the Marisa Tomei episode. If you replace fiance with wife and engaged with married, not much else changes. I think that they have already inrcorporated her as his wife and it's become so normal to us we don't even notice. So unless anyone finds her throwing anything off now, it shouldn't later. George is still going to be lying to her. Just think of it as another job he has. Only his boss is Susan this time and his problems with her will be relationship related. I'm sure there will be plenty of episode with him trying to fool her and lie to her to keep us amused. I loved when he was making out with that pillow and she walked in on him. The look she gave him cracked me up.

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