Stand up at the beginning of show

I herd on Entertainment Tonight that this year on Seinfeld they are going to drop the standup comedy at the beginning of the show. This is suppose to make the storyline longer. Maby it is just me but I like the beginning with the standup, they should leave it how it is. Oh well the show is still the best! Evan

Yeah they are going to take out the stand up part of the show beause one of the writers is leaving the show. That means jerry is going to have to concentrate more on writing the show not doing the stand up thats why there is going to be no more standup which kinda sux. Its strange when you see the first episodes ever you jerry does about 2 or 3 different standup parts in reference to the plot of the show i liked that how bout everyone else?

It's a shame I really like the stand up bits. Thats one of the things that makes seinfeld seinfeld.

By the way, interesting piece of trivia. I watch seinfeld here in france where they have two versions of each episode;

One dubbed badly into French with very bad canned laughter.Its unwatchable. The other in the original American with French subtitles. Now you know how the credits are printed on top of the stand up routine in big letters. Its quite amusing to see how the sub-titlers manage to squeeze those subtitles in between and still make the text readable.

Here's something I've been wondering... in subtitled or dubbed episodes, what does it say when Jerry calls George, "Biff"?

Gwen

This is in reference to the character Biff Loman in "Death of a Salesman", long considered a standard against which all losers are judged.

The salesman in "Death of" was Willy Loman; Biff was someone else in the play... his son, maybe... but I agree that probably that's the intended reference. It seemed apt at the time, though I don't remember the context.

"Mark L. Levinson" wrote:

But none of these answer the original question: how do they translate into French such an idiomatic reference?

In article , Anita Rowland writes:

Perhaps this reference is not quite so idiomatic as you assume. "Death of a Salesman" has been performed in several languages and locations outside the United States, even including a production in communist China. French provincialism aside, "Death of a Salesman" is a seminal dramatic work of this century, and as such is known world-wide.

Andrew E. Magidson WDI

Biff and Happy Loman are the sons. They could have translated it as Taregon who's a pretty pathetic Moliere character. But my guess is they left it as is. It's not an obscure play and they do identify it in the Seinfeld in question.

On Swedish TV the subtitles say "Biff". If you remember, Jerry actually explains the reference the first time he uses it.

Well, that explains nothing. Biff is a literary reference to the play "Death of a Salesman". Biff was Willy Loman's son, and showed great promise as a young man. But Biff squandered his talents, and because of his lack of confidence, he amounted to very little in life. An American tragedy...

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In article , Natalie Cole wrote:

Evan,

I for one would welcome the change. I tape all the episodes and watch at my liersure. I almost always fast forward thru the standup routine, to get to the best comedy show on TV.

I think it is cool to see what type of events lead up to Jerry's stand up material. I will miss it, too.

[email] (Ixalot) wrote:

Actually, I think the standup at the beginning of the show is truly significant to the whole theme of the show. Jerry is, after all, a standup comedian. I also enjoy the foreshadowing technique he uses in his choice of material. It's fun to guess what the show is going to be about based on what he says in his stand up routine.

Phin

I agree---I think that was the original premise of the show---how Jerry incorporates the nothingness of his every day life into his stand-up routine---to take that away dilutes the the show's concept and intent...

I think the are dropping the stand-up routine because Jerry is the sole producer of the show this year, and he won't have enough time to work on that as well as the show. I think I read that in TV Guide, or somewhere.. Peg

In Natalie Cole writes:

I personally have never laughed at any of Jerry's standup jokes. He writes a great show, though. I think a longer storyline is a good idea.

Nat

On 13 Jul 1996, Nat Mastick wrote:

Yeah i don't either.. prolly cause i read them all in that book, SeinLanguage.. i love that book. Personally, i think Jerry Seinfeld is like, the funniest person in the world.

ttyl

Well I laugh at his jokes, I do! I love everything Jerry said - there wasnt anything he's said that I did not agreee.

BTW, do you think Jerry is the ideal boyfriend? funny, rich, easy going, adequate looking -- or there is a dark side we do not know about.

In article , Kathy writes:

Personally, I do think Jerry would make the ideal boyfriend. I am attracted to him because of his sense of humor. It seems like he could help you cope with even your worst problems because he could make you laugh. He also seems like he treats a woman properly (he takes her out to restaurants that dont make you take your own tray to your table & DONT have a drive-thru!) I personally think he's a very sexy man & he seems like he would just be fun to be around. (of course...who can leave out that stud muffin Newman! After seeing him in that sexee bathing suit & all...JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :)

Heather

[email] (HGLEIDT) wrote:

Please clarify -- are we talking about Jerry the character in the show or Jerry in real life?

[email] (debbie) wrote:

Is there necessarily a difference?

[email] (Turid Mevold) wrote:

Yes there is. The question I was responding to was whether Jerry would make a good boyfriend. I would answer that differently depending on whether we are talking about the character or the actor.

On 20 Jul 1996, HGLEIDT wrote:

*shudder* :)

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[email](Nat Mastick) wrote:

I agree the humor of the stand-up routine is of a differen't flavor than that of the show but it always presents the topic of the upcoming show. For their last season (hopefully not!) Jerry has decided to change the beginning to add a new dimension and also because Larry David will not be co-producing the show with Jer anymore.

What they did at the beginning of the shows this season was kind of neat though - some totally of the wall comments about "nothing."

"Laural Bourque" wrote:

Yeah, the things they talk about in these segments have nothing to do with the plot, but they're a good way to open it.

[email] (BMoskoff) wrote:

is he still doing the stand up circuit? i figured that they quit doing the stand up openings because they were taped at his club performances.

cheers.

In article , [email] (john wildermuth) writes:

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All the ones in the show are put ons, acted out FOR the show. The first FEW episodes they used some actual footage, but it wasn't long before they just started staging it....

-Keven