The first Seinfeld?

I hope someoen can help me on this one. The other night I was watching the syndicated Seinfeld. It was one I had never seen before. Elaine was not i n it at all, she wasn't even listed in the credits. Kramer was in it, but I do not recall anyone calling him Kramer. George was thin, and had more hair. The apt was different, and the restaraunt was different. No cereal boxes, but Jerry was eating cereal. Kramers hair was normal. The atmosphere was just completely different.

I can't even remember the storyline..the show was terible.

Does anyone know what episode this was, as far as #1, 2, 3?? WHen did Elaine come onto the show. I missed most of the 1st season.

Thanks David

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The show you're describing was the original pilot. It was also broadcast during the first summer replacement season on July 5, 1989. Some people give the show the name: Good News, Bad News. But a better description is Reading The Signals, since George and Kramer are constantly coaching Jerry about how to read women.

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It wasn't a show at all, really. It was the pilot to the Seinfeld series. The first series didn't come out until about another year. That was when Elaine was added, Kramer was given the goofy hair, etc. (on the first show of the actual first season, that is). Personally, I didn't think the pilot was _that_ bad, compared to some of them the networks show. I just think it was kind of subdued compared to what we are used to. As I've mentioned before, I can't believe how much hair George lost during the one year between the pilot and the first series. ;-)

Now this is intriguing. Does this episode revolve around George having to watch Jerry's clothes in the dryer? And later, Jerry has a ladyfriend visit him from out-of-town, and she turns out to be engaged? I saw this one recently and there was a great deal of the stand-up routine. George had more hair, Jerry had bay windows in his apt, Kramer was a hermit with normal hair and pajamas, and there was no Elaine character.

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I recently saw the same episode. This one must have aired during the first year. There was plenty of stand-up inserts and very funny pieces (compared to the ones now which I think are just used to start and end the show). Kramer is a hermit, yes, and came over to Jerry's house to ask for something to put between two pieces of bread (that he carried around in his robe pocket. Kramer was very much the hermit--Jerry made a reference to Kramer never leaving the house. Am I mixing up episodes? Plus doesn't Kramer mention his make your own pizza pie business idea that later comes up when Kramer is more outgoing and hooked up with Poppy.

I think I caught the end of that episode last week. Is the episode in question one in which Jerry attempts to woo this woman ,and lets her stay over at his apartment, convinced that she's "the one" only to see have her call her fiancee at the end? I caught the last 5 minutes or so, and I had never seen it before, but the end credits said it dated from 1989.

The pilot may have been shown one year before the first series episode but it could have been filmed a good deal earlier than that which would explain why Jason Alexander has so much more hair and is a lot thinner in the pilot.

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That was the pilot, it was shown a full year before Seinfeld was picked up as a mid season replacement. There was no Elaine character, Kramer was called by a different name and there were comedy segments in between scenes instead of the begining and end. The story line dealt with a woman who wanted to stay with Jerry at his place and he was not sure if he would get to sleep with her.

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It was #1 (but not in quality--its a good thing the show survived!)

i dont know the # of the show but the story line was the women jerry had meton a trip called and said she was coming to town and MAYBE she would see him. she ends staying at his place but she is engaged.

I think that was the first episode. Kramer knocked when he came in. It wasn't really as good as Seinfeld is now.