VOTE HERE FOR NOT JEWISH GEORGE

I was led to believe Mr. Costanze was Portugese.

In article , [email] (Hagen91897) wrote:

By whom?

Remember the episode where the Maestro had the picture of a resataurant in Tuscany that was called Costanza's. He claimed the man in the picture was his cousin Carlo

You wrote: I was led to believe Mr. Costanze was Portugese. Remember the episode where the Maestro had the picture of a resataurant in Tuscany that was called Costanza's. He claimed the man in the picture was his cousin Carlo

I responded: Tuscany is not in Portugal. Try Italy!

George's Dad is Italian!!!

Not sure what the mom is but Not Jewish!!!

duh

jenny

In article , Kevin Hegarty writes:

and Tuscany is in Portugal...??

It Shrinks...???

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It's rather obvious that Frank is not Jewish. Jews throughout the world have Jewish surnames, not surnames indigenous to their country of origin. For example, Primo Levi is a leader in the Italian Jewish community. The surname Levi is not Italian. Costanza is an Italian surname. In addition, in last week's episode, reference was made to Frank's K of C lodge, a Catholic institution.

Of course, none of this has to do with whether or not George is Jewish. Responsibility for this falls upon his mother Estelle. If she's Jewish, he's Jewish. If the show ever reveals this, you'll have your answer.

If Estelle is Jewish, then so was George when he was born. And then he always will be Jewish ethnically, even if he converted to Latvian Orthodox, Buddhism, or even Satanism. However, his religion has nothing to do with his mother's religion necessarily. That can be independent.

You can choose your religion, but not your heritage.

This is about the tenth time you've said exactly the same thing this week. This might be acceptable if your point were profound or original or valid, but unfortunately, it is none of these things. You seem to think that a person's ethnic heritage is a biological entity that gets passed down from generation to generation. Well, guess what--it isn't! I am a Jew. However, had I been kidnapped at birth and been raised by fundamentalist Christians in Texas, Muslims in Iraq, Buddhists in Japan, or a pack of crazed rabid wolves on the Siberian plains, my sense of ethnicity would be quite different. What gives you the right to decide a person's cultural/ethnic identity? How arrogant.

djk

to para-phrase mr. huckleberry's last line: you cannot choose your heritage. now, sir, what about this do you find difficult to accept, assuming you have some grasp of the english language? firstly, mr. huckleberry never once stated the concept of heritage to be biological. he does, however, infer, and correctly so, that it is based upon events in the past of which a subject has no role in. rather than biological, it is historical. the word "heritage" by definition is not something one may choose for oneself. therefore, although you may not agree with the concept of heritage, you are not allowed to disagree with the proper use of said lexical item.

In article , dean foreman wrote:

ROTFL. Thanks so much Dean. I really needed a good laugh. If there's anything I can ever do for you, don't hesitate to ask. After that tautological whopper, I most definitely owe you one.

djk

->> You can choose your religion, but not your heritage. -> ->This is about the tenth time you've said exactly the same thing this week. ->This might be acceptable if your point were profound or original or valid, ->but unfortunately, it is none of these things. You seem to think that a ->person's ethnic heritage is a biological entity that gets passed down from ->generation to generation. Well, guess what--it isn't! I am a Jew. ->However, had I been kidnapped at birth and been raised by fundamentalist ->Christians in Texas, Muslims in Iraq, Buddhists in Japan, or a pack of ->crazed rabid wolves on the Siberian plains, my sense of ethnicity would be ->quite different. What gives you the right to decide a person's ->cultural/ethnic identity? How arrogant.

Sorry my point isn't original any more. I repeat it because it isn't getting across. Anyway, it's not my point. The definition of Jew from the dictionary states as ONE of its definitions "a person descended from the ancient tribes of Israel," or something like that. Show me how you can change the state of being descended from a ancient tribe of Israel, no matter who raised you. Also, I never claimed that "my" point was profound or new. On the contrary, "my" point is established in the lexicon of the English language, nothing original on my part.

In article [email] (LEGGGS) writes:

Tuscany IS in Italy (hence the Etruscans, no?).

However, that the Costanzas are from Italy is no proof that they aren't also Jewish. There were and are Italian Jews (see the film "The Garden of the Finzi Continis" for one!) -- although decimated by the War. I even know an entire family of Italian Protestants!

Gael

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In article , [email] (Gael McGear Sweeney) writes:

resataurant

picture

MY POINT WAS THAT TUSCANY WAS NOT IN ITALY..

WHY AM I ALWAYS MISQUOTED...??????

DISSILLUSIONED..

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Remember the episode where the Maestro had the picture of a resataurant in Tuscany that was called Costanza's. He claimed the man in the picture was his cousin Carlo

In article , [email] (Jamie L. Stellini) wrote:

Not that it matters, but I don't think George is Jewish.

I really think this is a watse of time and no one cares, however, I will say that I know (as I'm sure we all do) that Jason Alexndar is Jewish. His name was Jay Greenspan before he changed it to it's present form. Wether he is Jewish on Seinfeld is another story, and one which I'm sure is rather pointless and not worth debating.