Puerto Rican Flag

Hans Bosch wrote in message > I guess that is not enough to merit respect. I am not surprised, it was

You know, I think you're right. The sole purpose of keeping the series on television these nine years was to make slanderous comments toward Puerto Rico. It all makes perfect sense, NBC is *anti-rican*, therefore, they created a sitcom, hired the best writers so it would be a worldwide favorite, waited for popularity to increase and then when they reached their peak audience they cut loose. That is the real reason that the show is ending, not because "Jerry wants to go out on top", but because they have disgraced Puerto Rico and now the shows raison d'etre (reason for being) has been acheived and they no longer need to keep it on the air. THOSE BASTARDS!!!! DAMN NBC!!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA GORDITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

really people, it's a TV show, not real life. next time try alt.fan.politically-correct-bastards

Doofus T. Elephant wrote in article ...

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Gorditas? Is that Tacos Bells attempt at Mexican food? Let me just mention Gorditas or any other type of American version of Mexican food is just that. Puerto Ricans as a nation should not be associated with Gorditas. Your are a very good example of the ignorance and lack of respect toward people in this country have toward Puerto Ricans.

"Hans Bosch"

I like black beans and rice.

On Fri, 8 May 1998 23:58:30 -0500, "Doofus T. Elephant" wrote:

You're right. Apparently for the final episode they are all going to shave their heads and burn flags. That is all they are going to do for an hour is burn the flag of every ethnic group living in America. Since everyone will be tuned in tomorrow, they will finally have the eyes and ears of millions of people so they can express their true sentiments.

This whole controversy is SO absurd. I agree with the person who said, if they burned Old Glory: who gives a rat's ass? It's a TV SHOW, folks. The funny part of it (actually that episode, as with 90 percent of the last two years, was laugh-free) was that an idiot like Kramer would get himself into a flag-burning situation in front of the particular nation's citizens. I always hesitate to criticize "political correctness," because those who do are usually the GOP/Limbaugh/Gingrichian ilk who lament the passage of the good old days, when anyone not white or male was fair game for whatever stereotype they could lay out. That being said....is there NO ONE LEFT who doesn't take it personally when someone of an ethnic group or whatever is made fun of? Geez! The group-identity politics in this country are just out of hand.

In article , [email] wrote:

I agree with you there, but...

those who do (not like the political correctness trend) are usually the

I am one of those GOP types and you have offended my group! We are not a bunch of bigots. Shame on you. Stereotyping those you accuse of being stereotypers (not a word, is it?)

Yeah, you're right. I'm just teasing. I'm with you. Let's lighten up and enjoy what remains of the Seinfeld show.

Debbie

To me the point was Kramer was trying to put out the fire on the flag to save it from burning. Would it have been better for him to just let it burn? I think it's kind of gotten out of hand too, at least for stuff like that.

[email] wrote:

I think its funny that this episode created humor with people over-reacting to a flag burning and what does it cause in real life but people over-reacting to a flag burning.

Almost as if they were mocking the outraged people... before the fact.

Babu (on the stand): "...All the time. Mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking. All the time!"

I did not think they were not making fun of Puerto Rican community. By the way, Hans Bosch is about Pureto Rican name as mine. So what do you care...

Hans Bosch wrote:

*So what's your point? So have blacks, mexicans, native americans so on and so on.

*If some Puerto Ricans want to remain ignorant, that's their choice. My parents are both Mexican and they chose to learn their new adopted country's language.

*Why become a state when most of it's population resides on the east coast?? I mean look at NY!! It's the same thing with mexicans in CA, AZ and TX.

*People aren't smiling, they are laughing at whiners like yourself.

*That's right, you won't be alone. You'll be they watching thursday's show with the rest of us.

-Gus

Gus Ceballos wrote in article ...

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Gulf War.

My point is simple, but I see you need clarification. Seinfeld writers should have used the American flag or some fictitious flag. You see you may not realize this but all Latinos (which you parents once were and you obviously never was) have been disrespected.

Puerto Ricans did not adopt the United States like your parents and country men. They were invaded and stolen from Spain. Puerto Ricans were made citizens in 1917 just in time for WW I, (how convenient).

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You consider me a "whiners" just putting the truth on the table.

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GIVE ME A BREAK. YOU'RE WATCHING A COMEDY LIGHTEN UP. DID YOU HEAR ANY WHITES BITCH & MOAN WHEN THEY (SEINFELD) MADE FUN OF US ABOUT HANGING OUT AT "THE GAP"? HELL NO!!! YOU SEE IT CALLED HAVING A SENSE OF HUMOR. IF ANYONE HAS EVER WATCHED THE UNI CHANNEL AND THEIR SPINOFF OF FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS KNOW THAT THEIR IDEA OF COMEDY IS VERY LAME. HELL, YOU ALL GAVE US SELENA LETS CALL IT EVEN. YOU INSULTED US W/ HER LACK OF TALENT SO WE BURN YOUR FLAG.

Recordhead wrote in message

Selena is Mexican not Puerto Rican.

Selena was born and raised in the states, but in our country anyone that's speaks with an accent is inmediately labeled......oh why do I even bother.

meb

Recordhead wrote in article ...

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Another foolish remark. I know some folks can not help it. Selena was not Puerto Rican but thanks for the complement :)

What really this boils down to is that, Puerto Ricans really love and respect their flag, we can all learn from this. -Hans

PS> Stop using those old MainFrame terminals with caps only :)

I still don't see how the episode disrespected Puerto Ricans. The flag caught fire by accident and the Puerto Ricans still got revenge by throwing Black Saab down a staircase. They win. What's the prob?

On 9 May 1998 14:09:44 GMT, "Hans Bosch" wrote:

"I let the melody shine, let it cleanse my mind, I feel free now But the airways are clean and there's nobody singing to me now." - The Verve

Speak for yourself! Not *all* so-called "Latinos" claim allegiance to one of the US-approved victim classes, as your post implies. "Latinos" implies a unified monolithic group divided around ethnic, national origin grouping, one that thinks, walks, and talks alike. Being from Cuba and never having lived in an area of the US that is overpopulated with people from Latin America, I resent whenever anyone tries to lump me with Mexicans, Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Puerto Ricans, or anyone else who feels they have a victims' ax to grind. Latin America is a big region of the world and, like Asia and Europe, is made up of many different people, often with competing interests, but always with different experiences.

I, for one, appreciated the humor in Kramer's attempt to put out the fire. I also love the Taco Bell chihuahua, I don't vote Democratic, don't care what happens to Cesar Chavez, and -- most importantly -- don't wear my heritage on my sleeves.

In article , "Hans Bosch" wrote:

So, it'd be less disrespectful to use ANOTHER flag? Why are Latinos so bloody special today? Get off it -- it's an equal insult tv programme.

Like the vast majority of America. Crack a history book, sonny.

Cheers, Lulu

It was kind of offensive that the people of "Seinfeld" burned that Puerto Rican flag, since that is something that shouldn't be done not even in a Sitcom. Now, I would like to clarify something, Puerto Rico is not a country, but a colony of the USA. And that's what it has been since 1898. All I say is that if you see the "incident" from that point of view, the flag burning thing wouldn't be worse than burning a California or Texas flag. Don't you think?

I thought Seinfeld pussied out. He could have pushed the envelope further. If Larry David had written it, he would have had Kramer's actions spark an all out race riot break out, bigger than in LA. Kramer would say, "Oh, momma as he ran away from the mess he started. Then George would say something like, "Great, Kramer. Now you started a race riot. We'll never get out of here." Jerry would look out over the burning buildings and looted cars and reply with his sarcastic, "That's a shame."

HAHAHA THATS RIGHT.. WITHOUT SPEAKING ENGLISH.. LAZY ASSES.. THEY DONT PAY ATXES SO THEY CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP.. Hans Bosch wrote in message ...

CAN'T WE ALL MIRSKOUT TOGETHER IN HARMONY???

slhaas wrote in article ...

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Few people pay "atxes".

What really this boils down to is, Puerto Ricans really love and respect their flag, we can all learn from this. Just ask yourself slhaas how angry will you be if someone burned the American flag. -Hans

Even fewer can pronounce "atxes." Try it!

On 13 May 1998 18:41:25 GMT, "Hans" wrote:

Most people in this newsgroup have answered this question. It would have been hilarious if Kramer started and American flag on fire at a Veterans Day parade. It would have been hilarious if he burned an Irish flag at a St. Patrick's day parade or a Confederate flag at a Klan rally, or a Kwanzaa flag at a Black Pride parade, or an NRA flag at a Gun Owners convention, or a Boy Scouts flag at a Scout campout or a NOW flag at an abortion protest. The humor isn't in the flag burning. It is in the fact that Kramer is a f*cking idiot.

seinfeld has trashed orthodox jews more than once, viciously (shaky the mohel; the balbbering rabbi; shiksappeal; the shrinkage/lobster episode) so everyone is fair game. Im not sure why the PR Flag should be spared

Oh my god .. If your head exploded we'd be covered in crap because for you to be offended by that is the most bullshit I've ever read on here. Did you see Kramer light the flag and burn it for the reason to piss off puerto ricans? no .. he was into it all .. and he isn't that stupid to do that with everyone aroudn there ready to kick his ass. someone should kick yours for taking that show so seriously.

On 9 May 1998 04:40:12 GMT, "Hans Bosch" wrote:

Ben B wrote in article <[email] t>...

To make fun of a group for how they speak or what they eat maybe funny, hey we all do it. What really this boils down to is, Puerto Ricans really love and respect their flag, we can all learn from this. -Hans

PS> If you think you could kick my ass or any other Puerto Rican just visit New York during the parade yourself and "accidentally" burn the Puerto Rican flag.

Hans wrote: <snip>

I think Jerry has already stated how he thinks about Gays whether they are Puerto Rican or not. There is nothing wrong with that and I agree with him. Just because the Armoir-stealing, AIDS-walking guys are Puerto Rican Fags does not mean they should be burned.

Oh - you said Puerto Rican FLAGS - I though you said FAGS.

:-)

THANK YOU.

Im glad im not alone. Im not watching NBC anymore.

On Sun, 10 May 1998 19:16:15 -0400, "Francisco J Isern" wrote:

I heard NBC is going to burn another Puerto Rican Flag since it is bringing so much attention to their network.

All this stuff about bashing Puerto Rico by NBC is a lie!! The flag thing was a accident (Kramer dropped a the match thing on the flag and it caught on fire and he was trying to put it out). If you don't believe me re-watch the show. I have a friend who is Puerto Rican and he thought the show was funny. People take stuff WAY too far!

In article , "Hans Bosch" wrote:

What I want to know is how is it that somehow, to you, a person with a seemingly un-hispanic name (feel free to correct me, though), insulting Puerto Ricans is vastly more offensive than insulting all the other thousands of groops that have been poked fun at on Seinfeld?

They deal in this almost every episode. They make fun of people. It strikes me as prejudice on your part that you found all the other insults funny.

Cheers, Lulu

NB Don't ever bloody post a binary again, you netiquette swine.

Correct if I'm wrong and if I am you can poke my eye out with a screwdriver, but Kramer was walking around with the flag around his shoulders, showing a love for Puerto Rico. And what of Lomez? Seinfeld makes fun of everyone...if you can't take it ...don't watch. I suspect that Puerto Ricans like to laugh as much as anyone. I also suspect that there will always be a shrill group of politically correct would-be social engineers trying to run the world from their painfully meagre minority.