ramon

S09E13 The CartoonretroMar 6, 19985 weeks later5 posts by 4 posters
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AiMhIgH

where is ramon supposed to be from?

RGINAAiMhIgH

I don't think his nationality was brought out. This episode, by the way, has a rather nasty side story. Another actor, a stand-up comic who is hispanic, was originally hired for the part of Ramon, but after his arrival on the set, he didn't care for the racial overtones of the story and his suggestions of change were not accepted by Jerry and Larry David. He was then replaced after a few days and not compensated for his "time." This man--forget his name-- is now using this incident in his current stand-up act. Sour grapes, anyone? alt showbiz gossip

DaveRGINA

Sure. And as a slight to the disgruntled comedian, they wrote "The Cartoon" in which Sally Weaver (Kathy Griffin) claims Jerry 'ruined her life' so she writes a one-woman show, which was nothing more than an attack on Jerry. Hell, it was called "Jerry Seinfeld is the Devil"!

Attention hispanic hacks. Don't mess with the Sein. [email] (Hammer nail here--> <-- for a new monitor.) (Remove XXXX to reply)
AiMhIgHDave

Don't mess with the sein. Ha!!!. We wouldn't bother but that was pretty lame of him. Sometimes he thinks he is too good but he's not.

Talk1370RGINA

Actually this guy, Danny Hoch, writes in Harper's magazine that they fired him because they WANTED a Hispanic accent and he wouldn't do it.

One problem with the credibility of that story...the actor who ultimately played Ramon on the air, a fellow named Carlos Jacott, played the part WITHOUT the slightest trace of a Hispanic accent, sounding instead like a generic New Yorker. Could it be that the writer of the Harper's article may not want to concede that he just didn't work out, and someone else came in and did a better job?

Of course, the whole point of that story line was a comment on a couple of the less positive aspects of Jerry's character...his intolerance for clingy people, and his troubles in relating to folks who are more blue-collar than he is. (In short, a satire about his personality and his class biases...another case in which Jerry makes himself and his shortcomings the target of his humor.)

This guy must have been a real mismatch for the part to get fired. Seinfeld and his producers have a rep for being just about the easiest creative team to work with in Hollywood, the set is said to be the most relaxed and pleasant in the business, and everyone who appears on the show wants to come back. Bob Smith, afternoons WXXI-AM 1370, Rochester NY