Golden Globe review....

Jan 19, 199815 posts by 8 posters
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Fans debate Golden Globe awards, disagreeing on Seinfeld's loss to Ally McBeal and discussing merits of various award winners across comedy, drama, and film categories.

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Justin Tribble

Well, Seinfeld didn't win this year for best comedy series - big surprise. What was a surprise was Ally McBeal's victory in the comedy series category. I've seen most of Ally's episodes, and for the most part, it's well written and funny, yet very shallow.

My pick for Best Comedy goes to: Fraiser.

The X-Files managed to win Best Drama, even though the show is notorious for drifting off-track and lack of continuity between each episode (remember the first two or three new episodes this year? Notice how since then nothing that occurred in those episodes has been mentioned or acknowledged? Remember the apparent death of the Cancer Man? Since his departure, no one has bothered to even acknowledge that he is dead, even though he has played a major part in the show for years.).

My pick for Best Drama goes to: The X-Files

James Cameron for Best Director in a Drama - there was no possible way you could choose anyone else for this category.

Titanic wins for Best Drama Film - there was no other choice here, since the film is a landmark in filmmaking.

As Good As It Gets raked in quite a few awards, and deservingly so.

One film completely forgotten about was The Game. Why this film was not nominated for Best Drama is beyond me. And why David Fincher was not nominated for Best Director is ludicrous. It had a pretty darn good screenplay as well...

Justin Tribble Sedona, Az.

Justin Tribble wrote:

Quite an amazing feat, to be a "landmark" when the entire thing takes place on the water! Also since it was pretty terrible.

Because it was not very good.

Cheers PD

Patrick Davitt wrote:

Yeah, it was awful, wasn't it? Funny how it's grossed over 200 million by now, and so many critics praised it. Hmmm....

Nevermind that it was well directed, acted, and very well writen...along with being suspensful, exciting, and intrieuging.

Justin T.

[email] (Justin Tribble) wrote:

I weigh in on arguments ALL the time like this. I refuse to let this kind of statement go by. The fact that a show or movie or CD makes a lot of money and/or gets praised by critics means NOTHING whatsoever to the intrinsic or inherent VALUE of the thing in question.

Any dolt can point to a huge MONEY-MAKING piece of art that is purely and truly s**t. (I mean to say "shit," but didn't want to offend anyone.) The same is true of many "critically-lauded" pieces.

Now as for Justin's claim about Titanic, I think it's a nice movie. I enjoyed it. I was pretty impressed with how good the boat looked. I thought Leo and Kate were cute together. (Billy Zane is an undervalued actor.) I had a nice time and rarely wondered about the length of the thing. Should it win a bunch of awards? Hmm, I don't know. Catch me when the Oscar nominations get made...

Best wishes,

WT

[email] (WT Pfefferle, Ph.D.) wrote:

Obviously, if a movie makes a good sum of money, that does not mean it is a quality movie. But when a movie makes money due to public appeal of the movie, that is usually a good sign that the film is quality. As the numbers have shown, Titanic has grossed money due to the fact that people are seeing the film for a second or third time, and due to positive word-of-mouth. Considering that the film was not released in the summer, and considering that it is three hours long, it is safe to say the reason this film continues to make money is due to public appeal. That's what I base my claim on - I would never say the same thing about Batman & Robin just because it made 100 million. Since millions of Americans of all age groups obviously like this film, and for other reasons, it's not a wild claim by anyone to say that the film is of quality.

If you're going to go after someone who makes "It's good because it made money" claims, go after Jerry Seinfeld, who combats critics of the 9th season by saying to the effect of, "Ohh, well just look at how many people are watching it every week, that must mean it's still good..." Not necessarily, Jerry.

Justin T.

It was well directed, well acted, but well written? Compared to Good Will Hunting, As Good As It Gets, or LA Confidential, it isn't really all that special. Still deserves best picture though.

[email] (Dumbme45) wrote:

As I recall, the script was awfully complex...yet ended up making good sense in the end. What they (the writers) tried to do was quite a feat.

Justin T.

You mean the story was complex, and it was. But the script was very unremarkable, the dialouge when Jack and Rose finally got together was very bad, and the dialouge between Bill Paxton and Gloria Stuart was terrible. The end where Jack tells Rose to promise that she will survive was golden though.

If Justin Dribble Tribble were on the Titanic he would probably complain about the lifeboat's accomodations. He is the #1 Mirskhead-Nonhipster-doofus in the world!!!

The Golden Globes awards is a lottery. A show is lucky or it is not.

notorious for drifting off-track and lack of continuity between each episode (remember the first two or three new episodes this year? Notice how since then nothing that occurred in those episodes has been mentioned or acknowledged? Remember the apparent death of the Cancer Man? Since his departure, no one has bothered to even acknowledge that he is dead, even though he has played a major part in the show for years.). >>

Justin, obviously you are not a long-time fan, because then you'd know the style of the show. The "mythology" shows--such as the first two episodes of the season--usually come in 2-parters, and show up a few times a year. In between those are standalones--episodes which have little to no involvement in the conspiracy--and they are NOT the show drifting off-track, but rather returning to its roots, for the case files introduced in the standalones are the basic premise of the show. The CSM shooting will be addressed in February, during the next mythology 2-parter, so don't worry. XF is a WEEKLY show....don't forget that.

--MFLuder848

And just as a side note, did anyone notice the clips they showed while mentioning each nomination for Best Comedy Series?

Well, for one, the Ally McBeal clip was completely confusing and unfunny. The clips for Frasier and Spin City were both hilarious. The clip for 3rd Rock From The Sun's take of Lord of the Dance was great. Seinfeld's clip was moderately funny. The Seinfeld clip, I feel, pretty well demonstrated what this season is about and what this season exemplifies.

Justin T.