Final show a letdown?

I have watched the final 'courtroom' episode on several occasions & cannot help feeling that it was one almighty letdown. For a series of such high standards, I think they rushed through a final show which wasn't worthy of the Seinfeld title. Any thoughts?

It has always been my impression that it would have been impossible for the final show to be anything but a let down. This show was not built for conclusion. The joy of the show was always in its grinding procession of nothing, and an ending (especially a significant one) always has to be SOMETHING. This is not to say they couldn't have done things better but I just feel like anything would have been unsatisfactory and seemed out of place.

Joe

"Mark Cole" wrote in message news:b0cel9$5n3$[email]...

The hype for the last show was pretty big, so you're right in that it would have been impossible for it not to be a letdown, but the original poster was right. The final episode is horrible.It would have been much better had they waited until the season was over before they announced that was their last season. A clip show would have been much better.

I think the clip show would have been a good enough finale. More bloopers would have been great!

I wish they would release a blooper tape for Seinfeld, i would buy that in a heartbeat.

On the subject of the clip show.... That final ep Clip show has to be one of the ALL time great clip shows... It was produced masterfully, from the music montages and the blooper reels to the overall structure it was just REALLY well done.

i agree completely, i still tear up at the end of the clip show hearing "Time of Your Life" it's great.

Jen.

"Joe" wrote in message news:5QrW9.45029$Yq3.9796@sccrnsc02...

Yes indeed. I love the way they had the still photos of the cast spliced into that final music piece. It just really conveyed how much fun they had and how much the show meant to those guys.

Joe

"Jen621" wrote in message news:OHsW9.48243$[email]...

shows...

reels

If you liked the photos check this out: http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue9811/seinoff_index.htm

best, Dan

Joe wrote:

Thanks so much for the link. Great stuff

"Dan Coogan" wrote in message news:[email]...

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hushawusha writes:

For bloopers to be good they must be real. Witness _Home Improvement_ and a whole scad of made to order bloopers. They are embarrassing to watch.

I have only seen one set of Seinfeld bloopers and some of them (Jerry/Kramer) are good. The ones with Frank Costanza and Del Boca Vista look contrived to me. It must have been the end of a long, tiring week.

"Mark Cole" wrote in message news:...

You have to understand, Larry David's credo from the beginning was "No hugging, no learning," which is the opposite of what would happen in most traditional sitcoms.

As much as we enjoy the characters, they're basically awful, despicable people (with Kramer coming off better than the others), and what ultimately happens to them in the finale was really the only way to go (other than killing them, which is really out of the question).

I think that it was really based on consistency than the need to deliver humor.

People have written theses on these notion, I'm just re-hashing my own opinion.

PS - I would not be surprised if when "Curb Your Enthusiasm" has its finale, Larry's character gets killed. His decision, of course.

"Michael Foley" wrote in message news:[email]...

Yeah, but the credo never included "no laughs"!

I strongly disagree with this. It seemed like David was caving in or, at the very least, reacting to TV critics who at the time were constantly commenting on the shallowness and selfishness of the characters. Actually, I think JA and JLD may have been making similar comments in interviews. But they really weren't so bad! They were certainly capable of feeling guilt, responsibility, and regret. The way they made fat jokes while a hapless overweight guy was getting carjacked was totally out of character! (BTW, if Jake Jarmell had been as liberal with his exclamation points as I am being now, he might be Mr. Elaine Benes today!)

The final episode seemed terribly contrived without producing any laughs. And turning it into a morality play was terribly misguided and a violation of the "no learning" part of the show's motto: they couldn't but learn while in stir and the show became a morality tale for the viewer. IMO.

Again, I don't think the actors were playing in character.

On 19 Jan 2003 01:50:43 -0800, [email] (Michael Foley) wrote:

Really the awfulness didn't start until later seasons. In the beginning they had eccentricities but were mostly realistic people. The self absorbtion began later as they were looking for more veins to mine for comedy.

Scott

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:49:43 -0000, "Mark Cole" wrote:

I think that most people had a problem with the eventual fate of the characters. I saw it as being true to the spirit of the show--these were rotten people--and we need to believe that, in the end, people like this eventually get what they have coming. We should remember this a year-or-so from now when The Sopranos wraps up. Because there has always been indications that morality has not been cast aside, and the chickens will come home to roost for the characters.

-==Kensu==- Who stills remembers some dildo columnist who went on about how Seinfeld had nothing on I Love Lucy. You remember what Barry in High Fidelity said about people who like Stevie Wonder? It goes the same for I Love Lucy. (I won't repeat it for the sake of decorum)

I've seen the final episode outside of the context of the original airing & all the attendant hype ( I HATED it on first viewing ) , & I gotta say I still think it stinks. I don't have a problem with the basic plot - the characters finally paying for all the years of selfish, anti-social behavior. My beef is that it just wasn't FUNNY.

On the other hand - the clip show was a masterfully assembled thing.

Scott in KC

"Diggity Dawg" wrote in message news:[email]...

Yeah, some of those courtroom scenes just make me cringe...especially when "the low talker" is on the stand. That's rough. There were some great moments though, too...Babu on the stand; "NBC limo's downstairs - beep-BEEP-beep;" Newman's final rave at Jerry in his apartment...

Agreed...but if I hear Elaine say "the heat, my god, the heat" one more time, I'm going to tear my own eyes out. :)

-B.

Its always a sign of a good show where anything can happen to the characters, as with 'The Sopranos' its so entertaining because with most shows they have to have a story arc, the characters have to just be saved from some awful situation and restore normality for the next episode.

The final show was spoilt for me as in the uk it was due to be screened on Sept 12th 2001 and was understandably postponed due to the aircraft scene. I've no complaints that they did that but the build up was lost. "Brian" wrote in message news:ykFW9.310$[email]...