"The Blood" Kramer & Jerry

how the hell did Kramer's blood save Jerry?? He was keeping it in his freezer...you dont just hand paramedics a jar or two of blood and say "here, you can pump him full of this!" and unless he manually shot it into Jerry, theres no way any hospital would have given Jerry any of Kramer blood at all, nor so quickly (blood supply at a hospital goes through alot of screening, and all that would have to be passed by a middle-aged cigar-smoker in just a couple of hours?) i normally dont complain about any sort of reality in TV shows, but it just didnt make any sense. even if they were matchin blood types, it would never have happened. but its the lack of attention to details that left with Larry David, i notice in alot of later episodes...

You know, cmputachic, I too noticed a bunch of really annoying plot holes esp. in the final season. Here are two:

         -    George had to move the Frogger machine from the pizza
parlor to his house without
              it losing power, so that his 10-year old High Score wouldn't
              be erased?   Then are we to believe that for the whole preceding
              10 years, the machine had never been shut off or lost power?
              Makes no sense.

Also... The details are fuzzy, I'm not even sure I saw the whole episode, but didn't George lay out a whole spread of candy bars on a table in Puddy's car dealership, for some kind of taste test, or a contest of some kind, or to prove some point..... I think they were Twix bars, anyway where did he get them all? This was when he had no money to get a bar out of the machine, I think it ate his money or he just had no money, but suddenly he had a whole box full for this experiment. Wish I could remember this better, maybe I'll try again after next time I catch this episode, but I do remember there was something about the sequence of events that made no sense at all.

richforman

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well as for the frogger thing, it's just supposed to be funny (most of them are), who cares about the nitty gritty details... and the candy bar thing was that he didn't have change to get it and we are to assume that he went to the store to buy them because he is so crazy and obsessed that he would do something like that, even if it costs him more than it would have originally just to prove his point.

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CmputaChic wrote:

This is too funny to comment on. I guess you were all just waiting to see what I would do with THIS lack of attention to details.

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Yeah, I agree. Some later episodes really have a lack of reality.

"A lot". Mike?

When I broke out of the "reality=quality=comedy" mold, I enjoyed the
episodes a lot more.  Like the fact that the old Merv Griffin show set
would never wind up in a dumpster for Kramer to discover didn't prevent
me from thoroughly enjoying the episode.
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dumpster for Kramer to discover didn't prevent

yea,I like wierd and impossible when its funny, but when theyre going for a realistic situation and theres that big gap there, it just doesnt work for me...

I'm not saying that the lack of reality necessarly is a bad thing, I just agreed to the fact that the later episodes didn't consist of the detailed and funny reflections on every-day life that we were just to! I loved the Merv Griffin Show too, bringing that old set to life! I alos thought Jerry's subplot was hilarious drugging his girlfriend so he and George could play with his girlfriend's toy collection! That's comedy!

Sure, much of that day-to-day was Larry David and when he left, it left with him, but when it happened, I refused to be one of the people who chose sides. I don't know if you remember when Justin Tribble used to post here after every new non-Larry episode, but he would just rail against EVERYTHING in every episode. Not one single plot line was good enough for him. He would call us fools for enjoying them. You see he had chosen sides and, as a result, he denied himself a lot of viewing pleasure. Sure I recognized that the entire show had evolved and that I would never see a "Chinese Restaurant" type episode again, but I changed along with the show. I got to love the absurdities. The fact that the Frogger machine never kept track of initials on the leaderboard, only scores, didn't sour me on the episode. The fact that Jerry lost 3 pints of blood due to a knife wound yet there was not a drop of blood to clean up when he returned from the hospital didn't bother me either. I'm rambling so I'll stop here.

And of couse, many people were offended by the "date rape"
implications.
I enjoyed that debate for weeks.
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i was wondering what happened to that kid. I think he was either committed or just goes under a different name now to avoid constant flaming...

I was waiting for that. sorry, no.

Well then, glad I didn't disappoint. :)

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Here is his last post (under his own name at least) last June.
I looked him up - perhaps someone might want to call him in Sedona Az. to see how
he is?
Dave?
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Dave wrote:

You're right, and I think at that point Seinfeld had come as far as it could with the "old" style. It's important for a show to develop, even more if it spans over 9 years. The reason that I first felt kind of disappointed when I watched the 8th and the 9th seasons was that I watched them on one single day on Canal+! But since then, I've re-watched (is that a word?) them all a couple of times, and I must say that they now seem to be, if not as good, at least in the same dimension as the earlier ones. That's the thing about Seinfeld, I mean who enjoys watching an ordinary sitcom or soap opera more than one time? They all become more or less pathetic, but you can enjoy a good Seinfeld episode (like The Pool Guy or The Contest) *every* single time you see it again! It's magic!

The fact that the

I thought I saw the initials there, better watch it again... Didn't Jerry noticed that GLC - George Louis Costanza - was the highest ranked? I remember when I saw the Frogger I thought: How the hell did they get those initials in there, did they play it until they earned it (8,000,000 seems kind of hard) or did they just call in a guy to reprogram the whole leaderboard?

The fact that Jerry lost 3 pints

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OK, I will take a stab at it too. I also liked The Chinese restaurant and commend Seinfeld for taking the chance to do it.

First of all - technically it takes place in one place and in real time. What you see is what you get. Very difficult to write and to act to keep things going in that construct. So it was also an exercise in comedic TV discipline.

Second - it was similar to many *trapped* novels - I don't know enough about literature and drama to know how to explain it well but it has to do with being trapped in a situation or place. Like Alice in Wonderland, Dorothy in Oz, Poseiden Adventure, (The cult movie After Hours) and not being able to get out yet having a purpose to get out - like the movie starting soon or George's call he could not make to his girlfriend. NB: This is also similar to the episdoe The Parking Garage that many other people either love or hate too.

So there you have my take on why this was an important episode.

Some great examples of what you are talking about are the Alfred Hitchcock movies Rope, and Rear Window. Rope is one continuous camera shot (or so it appears, with cuts being when a character moves in front of the camera, etc.). In Rear Window, a photographer is in his apartment with a broken leg, the whole movie takes place in the apartment with the action taking place in the apartment as well as seen through, you guessed it, the rear window. Excellent movies if you like Alfred Hitchcock or are into different styles of directing.

-Adam

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episdoe The

Good point. Seinfeld broke new ground when they chose to redefine what a "sitcom" was. "The Chinese Restaurant" was nearly the defining episode of a show about the little things. What could be "littler"?

Another great point. This was one of the first episodes I'd seen, and I felt such an angst building along with the characters' frustration and hunger. The "I'm so hungry, I could walk up to that table and eat an egg roll." followed by "I'll bet you $50 you won't." is something that nearly anyone can say while wasting time waiting for a table. It was just so "real". Of course, for most normal people, it would have ended right there. Who's actually going to go through with it? Elaine, that's who.

And thanks for mentioning "After Hours". That's always been one of my absolute favorite films (plaster of paris bagels?!) and a fantastic example of the genre. The "real time" feel, the rising tension. You just wonder when he's gonna just SNAP and what will happen after that? It was that type of episode.

And the payoff. You just *knew* that the moment they all decide to go their separate ways, the maitre'd was going to say "Seinfeld, four!"

There's a reason they chose to end their "Highlights of 100" clip shows with that scene. Maybe several reasons, but to me it typified the type of luck out favorite gang had to endure.

Oh, and George's "Intestinal requirement" bit was classic. And of course the reinforcement of one of the biggest themes that runs through George's character; "We're living in a society here!" And Jerry running into someoe who's name he can't remember (Who HASN'T that happened to?)

I could go on and on but I won't.

You're right, the Frogger scoreboard *on the show* had initials, but the real Frogger arcade game only kept high scores, not players initials.

I

No, the whole screen was fake.  Watch it again, you'lll see the scores
are not shown in descending order, and some of the scores and initials
are repeated.
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yea, and I like the eighth season because I thought by the end of season 7 they had reached the end but the "wierd" new things worked. But I thought the last year, 9, was like attempts to recapture the old and I didnt like it much.

This episode always bugged me, too. You made a good point, but another error was bothreing me: when you need blood, you get a mixture from hundreds of people with the SAME TYPE. If Jerry was type AB, he could accept any type of blood, but the chances are a a little slim (I am an engineer, so I could be wrong about this biology stuff). ANyway, I just found it very disturbing...it's hard to enjoy an episode when I am focused on the things that would never happen in reality. Laura

No way, Jose. Each pint is from ONE person (with exceptions for conditions that need specific blood products, like clotting agents,etc).

     No, he could not.  However he could accept type O (known as a
     universal donor).

Obviously.

    Unless it was a new donation (as evidenced later by Newman's bandage)
    or the hospital was also Kramer's blood bank and they still had some in
    storage.

George

come on..the premise just didnt make sense at all...dont defend them. Unless your one of the producers...

CmputaChic wrote:

Agreed - And Jerry's being dragged behind an automobile - that was SOOO stupid even Dave must cringe at that episode.

:-)

Um, it made me laugh a number of times. And I got lots of good FAQworthy stuff from it.

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I must admit that although I attempt to defend every episode of Seinfeld, this one bothered me in many ways. I was also bothered by Jerry being dragged at high speed behind his car, and the part where he was cut by the knife and lost "a lot of blood" yet didn't have a scratch on him made no sense at all. And what was up with Kramer screaming when Jerry did? He sounded like a scared 5- year-old. I did kind of like how Jerry freaked out at the idea of Kramer storing his blood so close to him, because so many people such as myself totally cringe at the idea of blood being so open and exposed like that. And George's cravings for sex and food combining into one perverted craving was pretty funny too. I try to find the good of every episode, but this one was possibly the biggest stretch ever for me.

sorry george, but laura's right (kudos to you laura!)... an AB person can accept anyone's blood, they are "universal recipient"... so i wouldn't be trashing her (laura) if i were you and get your facts straight before speaking...

GMusson003 wrote:

"Hi, my names Kramer." "Hi Kramer" "See that guy bleeding to death, Mr. Paramedic? Thats my friend Jerry" "Oh really?" "Yes. And I have some blood in my freezer you could pump into his body once you stop the bleeding...it's good, I swear." "Um...ok, why not? not like it really matters...do you smoke?" "uhh...no." "Same blood type?" "uh...yes?" "I'll take your word for it! ok, just bring us the blood and we'll have it in him in no time!"

now thats realism.