Viewers discuss what female body part rhymes with the girlfriend's name in The Junior Mint episode, with debate over whether it's Dolores/clitoris or the episode actually references Mulva.
Sorry to post a Q that is probably a FAQ, but I couldn't find an answer in the FAQ.
My friends and I (being less than completely fluent in english) have absolutely no clue as to what part of the female anatomy would rhyme with Dolores
The question relates to episode "The Junior Mints" Where Jerry doesn't know his girlfriends name, except that it rhymes with a part of the female anatomy.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated by both me and a lot of my friends.
On Thu, 15 May 1997 15:34:25 -0500, [email] wrote:
that is the word that they meant, but clitoris doesn't rhyme with dolores, not if you pronounce it correctly.
correct pronunciation:
CLIT' er is
common mispronunciation:
cli TOAR' us
only the second pronunciation rhymes with dolores (unless you say DIL' er is)
but most people don't even know they are pronouncing it wrong, including the characters on seinfeld! for those that don't believe me, look it up in your it up in your definitionary.
m.
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Yes, but the mispronounciation makes it sound much more exotic, like a far off country and, if the woman of the world are to be beleived, to most men this is _exactly_ what it is.
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While my dictionary agrees with your pronunciation, I hear the other pronunciation used much more often - especially in movies and other forms of entertainment. There is even an interesting song that rhymes it with "Lavoris" (I don't think you want to know what the Lavoris is used for and it's off subject anyway).
English is becoming less and less structured. Many "Rules of Style" books are giving guidelines, but tell people to use another form "if it sounds right". I even have arguments with people over the difference between infer and imply (learned the difference from a show with JLD called "Day after Day" or some such thing). Imagine my shock when my unabridged dictionary said that the secondary meaning if infer is the same as imply, just because people have used it "wrong" for so many years.
<HTML> michael p mccullough wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>On Thu, 15 May 1997 15:34:25 -0500, [email] wrote:
<P>>Kim Fredtoft wrote: <BR>>>
<P>>> My friends and I (being less than completely fluent in english) have <BR>>> absolutely no clue as to what part of the female anatomy would rhyme <BR>>> with Dolores <BR>>>
<P>> <BR>> <BR>>OH, C'MON GUYS, DELORES? IT'S CLITTORIS. GET IT?
<P>that is the word that they meant, but clitoris doesn't rhyme with <BR>dolores, not if you pronounce it correctly.
<P>correct pronunciation:
<P>CLIT' er is
<P>common mispronunciation:
<P>cli TOAR' us
<P>only the second pronunciation rhymes with dolores (unless you say <BR>DIL' er is)
<P>but most people don't even know they are pronouncing it wrong, <BR>including the characters on seinfeld! for those that don't believe me, <BR>look it up in your it up in your definitionary.
<P>m.
<P>(i thought i posted this a while back, but it never got through m.)
<P>michael p mccullough ++++ Klamath Falls OR # 1.541.884.3278 <BR>[email] [email] <BR>all moanday, tearsday, wailsday, thumpsday, frightday, shatterday (joyce/FW) <BR><A HREF="http://www.magick.net/~michael/">http://www.magick.net/~michael/</A> <A HREF="http://www.magick.net/~michael/music.html">http://www.magick.net/~michael/music.html</A></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, your message did post earlier.
<P>While my dictionary agrees with your pronunciation, I hear the other <BR>pronunciation used much more often - especially in movies and <BR>other forms of entertainment. There is even an interesting song <BR>that rhymes it with "Lavoris" (I don't think you want to know what <BR>the Lavoris is used for and it's off subject anyway).
<P>English is becoming less and less structured. Many "Rules of Style" <BR>books are giving guidelines, but tell people to use another form <BR>"if it sounds right". I even have arguments with people over the <BR>difference between infer and imply (learned the difference from a <BR>show with JLD called "Day after Day" or some such thing). Imagine <BR>my shock when my unabridged dictionary said that the secondary <BR>meaning if infer is the same as imply, just because people have <BR>used it "wrong" for so many years.
C'mon guys... give this a rest. After all, the most important interplay between the tongue and the clitoris is *not* the pronunciation of the word! :-)
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My dictionary (Random House Webster's College Dictionary) lists both pronunciations as correct. However, the first pronounciation you gave is listed first. Does this make it more correct?
When we intellectuals <g> sat down and discussed this important topic "What does Dolores rhyme with?" We came up with "clitoris". At least that is the closest we came too. Maybe we aren't so intellegent after all. ;-)
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Sorry, you're clueless. At the end of the episode, Jerry screams 'Dolores!!"
out of his apartment window. Looks like SOME people must be changing
channels before the show ends.
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Agreed. That wasn't the original question (Does "uterus" rhyme with "clitoris"?) that someone else asked, though. That person obviously understood that Dolores was the name that rhymed with "clitoris" (if one uses a certain colloquial pronunciation); they were simply asking *in addition* if "uterus" rhymed with "clitoris." Next, someone else "refuted" the question by suggesting that end of the episode was missed, when in fact said end of episode had no bearing on the original question regarding "uterus." Now you are doing it as well. These are my responses:
1. Using the commonly understood definition of "rhyme," "uterus" does not rhyme with "clitoris."
2. "Uterus" is not believable as a name, so I am not sure why the question was posed in the first place.
Sorry -- I should have picked a different message to thread my reply to. I wasn't addressing the uterus topic. Someone mentioned that Jerry hollered "Dolores" out the window at the end of the episode as proof that it was Dolores. I was merely offering even more "proof" -- the closing credits of this year's season opener listed the character as Dolores (spelled with two O's and one E).
I know! I was the one telling everybody that you didn't miss the end of the show!
Yes, I saw the "above." I was simply wondering how, when the context of the show mentions a female body part that rhymes with a female name, the question of whether "uterus" rhymed with "clitoris" arose. Apparently it was just a tangential thought. That's fine.