George's Brother?

S03E22 The Parking SpaceretroJul 20, 2008, 5:48 PM ET16 years later28 posts by 15 posters
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Fans discuss why George's brother is mentioned in "The Parking Space" but never appears in the series, with one poster recalling another episode where the brother gets someone pregnant.

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Norman M. Schwartz

In The Parking Space Episode, George says:

"Nobody in my family can pay for parking, it's a sickness. My father never paid for parking; my mother, my brother, nobody. We can't do it."

I don't recall ever being introduced to George's brother. If in fact his brother never appears in the series, why do you think they put this line into the script (other than it rhymes)?

KarenCannoliNorman M. Schwartz

"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message news:4883b2f3$0$7361$[email]...

He mentioned it in an another episode, I forget which, where his brother gets someone pregnant. K

PaigeKarenCannoli

I wonder why we never meet George's brother, or why his parents never mentioned him. You would think Estelle and Frank would have talked about him "Why can't you be more like your brother? He's a successful architect at Vandelay Industries."

Speaking of family issues, I find it interesting that Jerry, Elaine and Kramer are only children.

Paige

Big AlPaige

I was at a social function and was cornered by this environmental (and I do mean MENTAL) apostle who twisted my ear about global warming. Before we parted ways, he shook my hand and asked my name and I said "Art Vandelay". It was like that Smith-Barney commercial or whatever firm it was; just about every person within earshot stopped and looked right at me. Obviously a lot of Seinfeld fans. The whackjob twisting my ear apparently didn't get it, looked at everyone looking at us and knew I was pulling something, but didn't know what. I just had this shit-eating grin on my face and quickly walked away.

PaigeBig Al

LOL! "Art Vandelay" is the secret word. Only "Seinies" get it.

Hmmm...what other secret words would ferret out the Seinies at a party?

Paige

LRodPaige

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT), Paige wrote:

Pretend to be an architect, That's a shame, Not that there's... Marine biologist, Master of your domain Moops!

That's with 30 seconds of thought.

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Art VandelayPaige

Oh you'll LOVE this then.

http://www.vandelayindustries.net/
Mark MellinPaige

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Elaine's sister, Gail, is mentioned in at least one episode (The Pick).

  • Mark
Mark Mellin ULmar 9 - 5470 Mailstop 408-85 Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 USA
Buddy MatloszPaige

"Paige" wrote in message news:[email]...

Everyone knows that Vandalay Industries manufactures latex products.

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Dimitrios PaskoudniakisBuddy Matlosz

I don't know, but can speculate several reasons:

- We never meet any siblings of the main four characters, not just George. That to me is telling. In addition to George mentioning a brother, only Elaine mentions a sister (her son saw her nipple picture), and Kramer and Jerry never mention siblings.

- This is comedy. Parents can be funny (Jerry's and George's). You don't meet Elaine's father after his first visit (not funny), or Kramer's mother, because they were not funny. Siblings (the concept, in relation to a main character) are not funny in a sitcom. See item 1.

- The above two are enough. However, also consider that if they were really going to bring a character on to play George's brother, the expectation would be too high, and one can imagine that the concept would fail. One close success (finding "a George") was the portrayal of George in The Pilot, but that was a different concept, where the goal was to impersonate George. There is only one George. A brother wouldn't work. A George, divided against itself, cannot stand.

- Just because George mentions a brother in earlier episodes (two) does not obligate the writers to then develop a character or continue to mention the brother (through him or his parents). For the above reasons, there was no need to, and it would have probably been a mistake to do this. The mention of the brother was script filler, that's all.

Mark MellinDimitrios Paskoudniakis

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Much the way Estelle fawns over Lloyd Braun.

Jerry anticipates a phone call from his sister in The Chinese Restaurant, the result of a chain reaction phone tree of sorts starting with Lorraine, from Uncle Leo's office.

I simply chalk it up to sloppy writing, or as you say, "script filling." Lately, I've been watching the first three seasons of The Dick Van Dyke show on Netflix's Roku box. In the closing credits, one stands out:

Marjorie Mullen .... continuity (32 episodes, 1961-1966)

Apparently the Seinfeld writers were not afforded such a luxury among their staff.

I blame GE & Alec Baldwin!

  • Mark
Mark Mellin ULmar 9 - 5470 Mailstop 408-85 Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 USA
Dimitrios PaskoudniakisMark Mellin

"Mark Mellin" wrote in message news:[email]...

Good one.

There's a good example of a funny show with a funny sibling - Jerry Van Dyke.

Philip WexlerLDB.JR

No indication that Jerry had any siblings - but he did have two dads who played MORTY - Barney Martin and Phil Bruns, who I recalled was Jerry's dad in one episode. I recall him shining his shoes in Jerry's apartment and having a lack of personality. He was quickly replaced for the good of the show. Phil

Mark MellinPhilip Wexler

In article , (Philip Wexler) wrote:

Uh, see above ....

Perhaps lesser known is that George also had a different dad, played by John Randolph, in The Handicap Spot. As ats's own Dave, the RatBoy, explained back in 1998:

<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.seinfeld/msg/f5778bab3f4d1361>

Also summed up on Wikipedia, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handicap_Spot>:

This is the first appearance of Frank Costanza, George's father. He was played in this episode not by Jerry Stiller, but by John Randolph. In 1995, the scenes featuring Randolph were re-shot with Stiller for syndication in order to maintain better continuity. Both versions can be seen on the Season 4 DVD set, along with an introduction from Jason Alexander explaining the existence of two sets of scenes for Frank Costanza.

  • Mark
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403 USA
LDB.JRMark Mellin

I did not know this! Thanks for posting Mark. I'll have to check out those scenes on my DVD tonight.

Art VandelayLDB.JR

You know even still in music chains, season box sets are still going for $50-plus.

LDB.JRArt Vandelay

I have all 9 seasons. They're well worth the money. :)

Mark MellinArt Vandelay

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$26.99 for season 4 at Amazon.com, with free shipping.

Or, you could rent it, I would look under "Vincent's picks."

  • Mark
Mark Mellin ULmar 9 - 5470 Mailstop 408-85 Menlo Park, CA 94025-3493 USA
lugnutArt Vandelay

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:26:42 -0400, Art Vandelay wrote:

I didn't pay over $40 for any of the seasons (and more like $30 for most, I think), and I bought most of them not long after they were released. Sounds like the stores in your area are a rip.

-lugnut

Art Vandelaylugnut

FYE stores in Vermont. Like I said before. Bittorrent.

Norman M. SchwartzKarenCannoli

Right you are, in The Suicide, George in the psychic's office says "My brother once impregnated a woman name Pauline".

LesmooreNorman M. Schwartz

"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message news:4883b2f3$0$7361$[email]...

Hey on Happy Days the brother Chuck appeared for one season then just disappeared without explanation

"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message news:4883b2f3$0$7361$[email]...

I'm sorry, but I find this to be a silly question. You never see Kramer's friends Lomez and Bob Sacamano. You never see Jerry's cousin Jeffrey. They were mentioned more frequently and never seen. The number of people mentioned on the series and never seen is too large to list. It's all script filler.

Well this being usenet one expects a reply such as yours. I think your reply is both silly and stupid. Lomez and Sacamano would neither appear nor be mentioned at the Costanza Festivus gathering, however one of the Frank's and Estelle's children would at least be mentioned if not only as 'script filler'.

Art VandelayDimitrios Paskoudniakis

Ah yes. In "The Voice" Kramer's intern notes that Kramer was in a meeting with a Mr. Lomez. Bob Sacamano sounds like one of those names from The Sopranos.

larsArt Vandelay

Previously, on Usenet Art Vandalay wrote:

Frankly, it sounds made up!

Lars Stockholm