You gotta agree with that. Freinds is a rip-off Married with Children is very perverted, and that's all that's funny about it/ Home Improvement episodes are extremely predictable. The Honeymooners is perhaps the closest to Seinfeld, but there where only 32 or 33 episodes, it didn't last Frasier needs help. can anyone think of a better sitcom?
Seinfeld= the best sitcom of all time??
Fans debate whether Seinfeld is the best sitcom of all time, with mixed opinions on how it compares to other shows like Friends, Frasier, The Honeymooners, and Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
In article [email](anonymous) writes:
First, I somewhat agree with you, but I don't think you can really compare Seinfeld, because it was from a different time- Back then(and even still now, to many people) it was the best show and Seinfeld probably would have flopped(because of the nature of some of the content, i.e. discussions about sex, masturbation, penises, nips, and homosexuality, not that there's anything wrong with that).
My theory is that there are many sitcoms that are funny, but few that are truly original. The honeymooners could likely have been one(I don't really know much about it), but Seinfeld definitely is. You usually can determine this in a leaders/followers paradigm: Seinfeld aired as a new, original show, and then friends copied, and then came partners, buddys, and twenty other bad knockoffs. I think many of the sitcoms that people say are the best of all time spring to mind because they distinguish themselves from all the rest-they have original stories and intelligent, original humor. All in the Family, Get Smart, I Love Lucy, and several others fall under this category.
--Ted Weiman
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My favorite sitcom of all time is the Fresh Prince of Bel~Air. I don't think you could compare the two because their comedy is so different. I love Sienfeld too. It's my second favorite.
[email](anonymous) wrote:
Well In Living Color wasn't a sitcom, but it made me laugh just as much as Seinfeld does. But I don't think any sitcom is as good as Seinfled.
Justin Tribble
Family Matters!
j/k
Bob
On 10 Aug 1996, anonymous wrote:
The only sitcom that's in the same league as Seinfeld is The Simpson's, although in a showdown between the two shows, Seinfeld would get my vote. The Simpson's humour is clever and original (a la Seinfeld) but there a few too many not so great episodes, whereas almost every Seinfeld episode is perfect.
Anyone agree??
SEINFAN! wrote:
Yes, I agree to some extent. The Simpson's is a very funny, cleverly written, original show, and is in that "Originality League" I referred to in an earlier posting. Although some people can't get into it because its a cartoon, the humorous writing is very good. Of course, I think Seinfeld is still better, but the Simpsons is very close.
--Ted Weiman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --She moved down here, the age of eighteen -- --She blew them boys away, was more than they'd seen -- --I was introduced and we both started groovin' -- --She said "I dig you boy" but I got to keep movin'...on.... -- --keep movin on -- --Last dance for Mary Jane -- --One more time to kill the pain -- --I feel summer creepin' in and I'm -- --Tired of this town again -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I disagree, the Simpsons is the only show on TV that has me actually laughing out loud...
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In article , [email] says...
The simpsons is a great show, but it can't compare to the originality and amount of total randomness on Seinfeld. All four of the comedians on the show are great alone, but even better together!
Yes, a great sitcom. But consider the kind of humour. These four are, each in his or her way, impaired. Example: George is not in control of his life; he is self-destructive. Since the show must go on, he arises from the dead for each episode. Kramer possesses the logic of a state mental hospital back ward patient. Elaine is uncontrollably promiscuous. Jerry, who has the means and worldy success to have different companions sticks with these three, presumably, out of a serious weakness rather than strength. He is a lord and his apartment is a territory open to his three subjects. Yet we laugh! Does "Seinfeld's" huge audience tell us something pathological about the audience?
Nomanisanisland
On 16 Aug 1996, A.N. Barnett wrote:
The reason that I think that the show is so popular -aside from its brilliant and original comic writing- is because us viewers are actually just as neurotic as the characters that we're laughing at. As funny as I find George's behavior to be, I often identify with him.
I disagree, however, with the statement that Elaine is "uncontrollably promiscuous." She is no more obessed with sex than the other 3 characters. Maybe because she's a woman, that sort of behavior seems stranger to many male viewers.
Jer
[email] (Falcon) wrote:
The Simpsons and Seinfeld are the ONLY shows I watch, and they're both superb in their own right. Let's just leave it at that, capise?
*Nat*
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: yep, it's the best- nothing comes close.
I think you would have to add "All in the Family" as one of if not the best sitcom with honorable mentions going to the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Taxi, and Barney Miller.
In article , [email] wrote:
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I'm not "into" what is "best" or in the "top 10". But when it comes to deciding what truly makes me laugh, there have been very few shows that have hit that streak of originality. Sadly, there we are being bombarded with more and more utter garbage these days.
But, we still have Seinfeld, Simpson's, Kids in the Hall and This Hour Has 22 Minutes and Mr. Bean (although I haven't seen that for quite some time) that really pushes the envelope with originality and it's own unique flavour when it comes to making me laugh. But that's about it. All the others are regurgitated and yawn-worthy.
Jason
To claim that Seinfeld is more random than The Simpsons is flat out wrong. While I think Seinfeld may be funnier day in and day out, The Simpsons is the king of randomness.
Jason
Seinfeld IS one of the best if not the best sitcom ever. Taxi...I don't think so. I've seen alot of episodes and the humour is not as riske as Seinfeld. Maybe it was for the 70's but it does not compare to today's standard. All in the Family however, ranks up there with the best. The acting, like Seinfeld, is superb and the subject matter is as provactive today as it was when the series ran between 70-75. Barney Miller, I don't think so. But sitcoms are like music, it just a matter of taste, and it is very difficult to convince someone that your ear for music is better than theirs. All in all, all were excellent sitcoms (i have watched many episodes of both), but in my opinion I would rank Seinfeld and All in the Family as a tie (but would rather watch Seinfeld reruns!). Oscar
I'm surprised that no one ever mentions Happy Days when they talk about the best sit-coms of all time. I would agree with most of you that Seinfeld is the best ever, but Happy Days is a definate top 5. Any thoughts?
Oscar Luykenaar wrote in article ...
In "Brett Love" writes:
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I Love Lucy Seinfeld Cheers Taxi Simpsons Bob Newhart Show (You have to love Mr. Carlin) Happy Days
Michael Gessner wrote in article ...
My top 5: 1) Seinfeld 2) Cheers 3) Happy Days 4) Mash 5) Gilligan's Island
Brett
- The Honeymooners
- The Phil Silvers Show aka You'll Never Get Rich
- All In The Family
- The Mary Tyler Moore Show
- Taxi
- Cheers
- Barney Miller
- The Dick Van Dyke Show
9) M*A*S*H
- I Love Lucy
Seinfeld is funny and I never miss it ... but it doesn't play in this league.
Sorry- - -If all 10 of the shows you mentioned plus Seinfeld were all showing reruns at the same time and my VCR was on the fritz- - -there's NO DOUBT which of the 11 I would choose- - -definitely, without a doubt- - -SEINFELD!! And THAT'S what tells me that, in my opinion, it IS the best sit-com of all time!!!! Jaycey
I don't know about "Happy Days". I watched it alot when I was younger (I'm 24 now). I not sure what years it ran.
I just saw a rerun and my opinion of it was that it was pretty weeny. The Fonz was lecturing a kid on stealing and how it wasn't cool but he felt it wasn't cool to lecture in the first place. So he called Mr. Cunningham for help in lecturing by making the phone work by punching it. Though slightly funny I think no sitcom nowadays would ever keep a running gag like that going for so long.
The main theme of the episode was being "COOL". Personally don't think I'll be checking my TV guide for the next time they play "Happy Days".
Sorry, don't think it is in the same club as Seinfeld & All in the Family (but as an afterthought the acting of course was very good and I'm sure the continuity (and direction) was not too shabby considering that Ron Howard was on the set).
Any thoughts on WKRP in Cincinnati? THAT show makes me piss my pants sometimes.
As another afterthought, have you seen the chrome dome on Ron Howard lately. It looks like the guy hasn't aged at all but he passed out one night and someone took the razor to him.
Oscar
Even more amazing was that Ron Howard's brother Clint played the role of Tobias Lehigh Nagy in The Trip. He was the guy who was arrested for trying to steal a car and shared the police car with Jerry and George. He also turned out to be the actual Smog Strangler. Clint had even less hair than Ronny (and is younger). I hadn't seen Clint Howard since the 60's.
Clint's in all of Ron's movies. At least he was in Far & Away and Apollo 13. It's hard to believe it's the same little boy who was in Gentle Ben, isn't it?
In article , [email] says...
The simpsons is a great show, but it can't compare to the originality and amount of total randomness on Seinfeld. All four of the comedians on the show are great alone, but even better together!
In article , [email] says...
The simpsons is a great show, but it can't compare to the originality and amount of total randomness on Seinfeld. All four of the comedians on the show are great alone, but even better together!
[email] (Nick) writes:
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I think Tastes for Sitcom change every 5 years or so, for the 1990's Seinfeld is right up there, around 1985's "The COsby Show" was Hilarious, I still watch re-runs of "Good Times" .. Ha Ha that J.J. guy!! and I still remember watching "I dreamed of Genie" and "Bewitched" with Daddy :)
Sure, Seinfeld is a great show, but we cannot ignore the past Shows which had a strong impact on their years. I am only 23 , so I am pretty sure I have missed some great comedies from the 50's and 60's & watching re-runs might not be the same, since the humour is directly linked to the affairs and matters of those years.
anyone wish to elaborate ? how about recomending some other sitcoms ?
Arturo.
In article , Arturo wrote:
- >: >laughing out loud...
* * anyone wish to elaborate ? * how about recomending some other sitcoms ?
Of course, 'The Best' is a subjective outlook. I think Seinfeld is a mold-breaking show. It has never followed a sit-com formula. That's what makes it so easy to watch. Shows that follow the formula get tired fast. Although there have been threads in this newsgroup that have suggested the show has lost some of its edge, it is still (IMHO) the quirkiest and freshest comedy on the air. I also have to agree that the Simpsons is a fine comedy. Of course it has the edge in that it's easier to be outlandish and bizarre when you can draw the action. Lucky me. Our local FOX station shows these 2 shows everyday back to back. Oh, it's couch potato heaven!!
My $0.02
Chris