Seinfeld VCDs

Jul 8, 2003, 1:11 PM ET26 posts by 9 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
Question

UK fan seeks advice on acquiring Seinfeld VCDs; thread discusses pricing and availability of bootleg DVD copies.

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halfastoryalt.tv.seinfeld

Sorry if this has been asked a thousand times but i'd really like to get my hands on some Seinfeld VCDs. A trade with a fella in Portgual for a complete set fell through recently and having only a dial-up connection makes it impossible to go the usual PTP route. Does anyone know how a UK fan can start building up a collection? Any help gratefully received.

"halfastory" wrote in message news:vXCOa.506$[email]...

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Sorry.....ignore that post.

I have a few sets sitting around here that might part with for shipping, or you can

purchase the dvds here

www.zoopc.com/seinfeld.htm

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:11:56 +0100, "halfastory" wrote:

No offense, cuz i think what youre offerring is great... the whole series on a dvd is a great catch...but to charge 165 for the DVD? Dont you think thats a bit steep? Its like youre charging that because you worked on the show as a producer or something. I know if took u a long time to edit and put it on DVD, but since youre selling copies dont you think something around 35 dollars is fair? Youre free to charge however much you want, but its funny when I see people selling copied music cds, and copied albums on cd-r's at retail price (15-20 dollars), like they were in on the making of the original product.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:32:17 -0500, don mitchell wrote:

Gareth OwenIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." writes:

No. It's copyright infringement.

No. It's copyright infringement. It's not any sort of theft.

It certainly is.

Gareth Owen Nuclear weapons can wipe out life on Earth, if used properly.
Ian F.Gareth Owenalt.tv.seinfeld

"Gareth Owen" wrote in message news:[email]...

I'm using the terminology according to FACT - the Federation Against Copyright Theft

http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/

It's theft, theft and theft again.

Ian

Gareth OwenIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." writes:

Theres nothing like an impartial source, is there? FACT can colour it any way they care too. They may also call it piracy. They use these terms incorrectly, and purely for emotive reasons.

Gareth "I Don't Wanna Be A Pirate" Owen There is no music in space.
Ian F.Frogiswrongalt.tv.seinfeld

"Frogiswrong" wrote in message news:bqu60o$2646em$[email]...

Of course I have - for viewing later. That is perfectly legal.

Ian

FrogiswrongIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." wrote in message news:bquofb$244d3h$[email]...

I think youll find that its NOT perfectly legal.

Mick

FrogiswrongIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

ok.. perhaps according to the cut and paste you have provided, in the UK, taping a show from the tv onto a video tape is ok. This whould mean that burning them onto DVD is also ok (suprising). I realise that SELLING the tape/dvd is illegal.

"Ian F." wrote in message news:bqur5u$25g5rq$[email]...

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NooneFrogiswrongalt.tv.seinfeld

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It is legal to burn it to dvd. Even burning a commercial dvd to another dvd is legal as you're allowed to make backups from purchased material for _yourself_.

Death BlowNoonealt.tv.seinfeld

Noone wrote:

Who care anyway. have you never downloaded an mp3 or something? I have downloaded some seinfeld avi files to view in my home. I know these is illegal, but ther is no other way to get it, I will still buy the DVD when they get the reeleased som noone looses any money, so who cares if I downloads some crummy avi while I wait?

FrogiswrongIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." wrote in message news:bqur5u$25g5rq$[email]...

Wouldnt the copying of seinfeld be relevent to US copyright law? what about a cut and paste from the US copyright 'blurb'.

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Ian F.Frogiswrongalt.tv.seinfeld

"Frogiswrong" wrote in message news:bqv1p9$271ht8$[email]...

As I said in my post, I'd be happy to read the cite from which you claim that it is illegal to home-record a TV show to view at a later date, either in the UK or the US.

Ian

Wouldn't the cutting and pasting of a copyright law from a website (without getting permission first) be a violation of copyright law.

Why does Radio Shack ask for your phone number when you buy batteries? I DON'T KNOW...

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"Ryan Boni" writes:

No. Acts of the UK parliament are Crown Copyright, and covered by an explicit waiver to allow reproduction, as long as it is neither misleading or derogatory.

See notes 8-10, here : http://www.hmso.gov.uk/copyright/guidance/gn_06.htm

Gareth Owen "I like this world. It has dog racing and Manchester United"

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Here you go sport... http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G025.pdf
Ian F.Frogiswrongalt.tv.seinfeld

"Frogiswrong" wrote in message news:bu2r82$cmfc7$[email]...

It's tricky to remember as far back as this thread, but I think you'll find we were discussing UK copyright law, which was why I quoted from FACT's site - your URL refers to the law in Australia.

Ian

FrogiswrongIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." wrote in message news:bu2sql$clju4$[email]...

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You should have seen me scratching my head trying to remember where i had the discussion! But from memory the discussion was general, until you quoted from a UK rule.

Looks like were both right.

Ian F.Frogiswrongalt.tv.seinfeld

"Frogiswrong" wrote in message news:bu2uet$d543u$[email]...

Indeed. Interesting that copyright law varies so much, though. What's the US stance on this, anyone?

Ian

I know your a reasnonable man, but... your crazy.

"Death Blow" wrote in message news:1g7mfpb.umrl9t1kr1fyiN%[email]...

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Gareth OwenIan F.alt.tv.seinfeld

"Ian F." writes:

How many times is the word "Theft" used in that act to describe offences under it? Answer - none

How many times in "infringement" used -- way too many to count, including the section titles of sections 17--21, 22-26 (secondary infringements), and as you've noticed extensively in section 107.

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm

Gareth Owen There is no music in space.