I agree. Puddy is the longest lasting boyfrined. He seems to fit in very well with the group. He sexually satisfies Elaine, he fixes Jerry's car, he helps Kramer with plumbing fixtures and George seems to like him. Also, his dry, weird sense of delivery fits in with the others. "Yeah, that's right"
Puddy.Perfect for Elaine?
I don't think he is right for Elaine. She's to intelligent for him. It's unrealistic that a smart person would want to be with an idiot. Didn't she get rid of him(face painting) for that very reason? The reason he is on the show is probably due to real life practicality, such as being the only former boyfreind available for a recurring role.
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Elaine is one of those people you assume is bright because they're always demonstrating how bright they are by being witty. It's a NY kinda deal. On the other hand, I've known mechanics and some of them can be geniuses - literally. They don't make huge issues of how much they understand about the workings of this or that, but there they are...quietly messing with metric tools. What is it that Elaine knows or understand more than Puddy? How to edit a book? She obviously stinks at that, but she's pretty and funny as hell.
Puddy is adorable. He's perfect for her because he's like the antithesis of Elaineism. And look at her dad who is a famous writer/poet. He's a street type too. Puddy and Elaine are made for each other. I love this pairing. I'm so sick of the losers and boring "intellectuals" she ends up with. O yeah.
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Puddy is terriffic because he is so "nothing." He exemplifies the kind of guy that "smart girls" end up with, and we all know how self-destructive Elaine is. He is better for Elaine than Susan was for George.
I hope he stays on for a while!
JG
Please supply one shred of evidence that Elaine is SMART
I forget what episode, but George asks her to take his IQ for him because she got very high SAT scores and has a high IQ. (This is the episode with Babu right?)
Maria
Yes, it's called "The Cafe". She scored 151 on her second try.
Yup, and besides, she was a proofreader for a publishing company,
and she writes copy for a clothing catalog. These are not generally
considered good jobs for the 'intellectually challenged'.
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Nor are they considered intellectually challenging to really brainy people who need stimulation. They're positions for intellectual wannabees. really.
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Intellectual wannabees?? What, you mean people who would like to be smarter than they already are? I don't get it. Who *wouldn't* want to be smarter no matter what their current intellectual level is?? (And I notice you snipped the part about Lanie's 151 IQ.)
I'll stick to my original assertions. Elaine is very smart, except when she
abstains from sex ("The Abstinance"), and proofreading novels is
intellectually challenging work.
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(Remove XXXX to reply)Please remember that most editors start as proofreaders. If Elaine's life-long goal was to be a proofreader, I would agree that this would make her seem less intelligent. But it's clear that this is just a stepping stone and she's attempting to move up.
Maria
In article , [email] (Maria Rost Rublee) wrote:
Maybe I didn't phrase myself well, but my point is not that editors are bozos, ELAINE is a smart as a whip bozo! Unless she turns out to be a brilliant novelist/poet as her father is, she's a loser as an editor, as a writer, as a publisher of catalogs, even as a purchaser of socks! From the very begining of the show, she's been shown to be less than effectual professionally. Is it because of her smarts? probably not. is it because of her "winning personality"? more than likely. We may love her, but the world of finance, publishing and getting by in the big city is less than wowed by her.
I loved Puddy telling her that it was great to be having casual sex because now he doesn't have to "listen to her telling him about who she's smarter than" at work, or something to that effect.
My point was not to downplay how smart editors are or aren't, but to point out that while Elaine is clever, she's not been proven to be a hell of a lot smarter or not than Mr Puddy, whom I happen to think is perfect for her. :)
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I would say my use of the term intellectual wannabee is someone who WANTS to be considered an intellectual. Elaine is smart, possibly brilliant but she's an asshole. I adore her, don't get me wrong but she's FAMOUS for being a complete boob as are ALL the characters, each in their own way.
Elaine's IQ has nothing to do with it. Intelligence quota is only a means of measuring capacity. It has nothing to do with common sense, with savvy or with how said intelligence is applied, or if in fact it is.
And btw, Elaine is not REAL! Only the "characters" on the show refer to her by her nickname, because they interact with her ON THE SHOW intimately. I really wonder about anyone who refers to fictional characters by their nicknames, Lanie = Elaine.
proofreading is lowman on the editing totem. You gotta be smart, no doubt about it, but it ain't editing. not by a long shot.
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Hmph. After 160 some-odd episodes, and countless reruns, I find that I've 'spent more time' with Elaine over the past few years than with members of my own family! She's like a sister to me (the character, not the actress) and I feel quite comfortable using the familiar derivative.
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Please remember we were responding to someone who said "Show me one shred of evidence that Elaine is smart." I don't think anyone was trying to make Elaine into some type of goddess. We were just supplying a bit of evidence to someone who asked, OK?
Maria
In article , [email] (Maria Rost Rublee) wrote:
Sorry, but that's not how this string showed up on my newsbrowser. I'm new to this group and I never got the original post, only the replies, so I was replying to the replies, okay? :)
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Ah, but don't you mean "The Abstinence"? It's just soooo disrespectful to misspell the name of an episode... Let's talk more about proofreading... --A
Where ya been AlkMal?? I've missed you. Anyway, you are correct, but I happened to be late for a meeting when I was typing that response, so I didn't give it the 'once over'. Proofreading works better if you have the time for it.
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Aww, shucks, Ratboy, thanks for the warm welcome. I've been away at school for the past few months and have only managed to lurk once in a while, if that--how kind of you to remember me! As for the "ya"--don't worry about it--you know I only get pissed when people misspell *important* things like episode names... ;-) --A
Yeah and she got a 151 on the IQ test....that enough shreds for ya????
******************************************************* Boring is watching a baseball game when you could enjoy the end-to-end action of a hockey game.
Yeah but if she gets a new boyfreind everyone on this NG goes haywire about her sleeping around. You know thats the problems of all society, Elaine sleeping around. Head my way Laney baby!
"Maybe the Dingo ate your baby." Elaine Benes
"Maybe the Dingo ate your baby." Elaine Benes
*** that was one of my favorite scenes...