Dolores?

S04E20 The Junior MintliveMar 19, 1993, 9:48 AM ETthe next morning31 posts by 25 posters
Question

Viewers discuss the wordplay joke about the woman's name from the episode, debating what name was mentioned and what anatomical term it rhymes with.

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jcapuan

I am also confused. Call me stupid, but what does *Dolores* rhyme with? And when George was trying to guess her name in Monk's, what does Aretha rhyme with?

Confused, John

Chris T Papaleonardosjcapuan

Dolores?! I give up? What part of the female anatomy does that rhyme with?

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Andrew Diaz-MatosBARKAN

In article [email] writes:

Also rhymes with CLITORIS. Although it doesn't use the same pronunciation I use. I put the accent on the first syllable, to make it rhyme it's gotta be on the second. No problem.

Roy EassaAndrew Diaz-Matos

[email] (Andrew Diaz-Matos) writes:

You pronounce it correctly. The show implied a common mis-pronounciation.

BARKANRoy Eassa

Well, if we all agrsee Delores rhymes with clitoris but only if you mispronounce clitoris (and I've never heard it mispronounced that way, not that I've ever heard it pronounced at all), is it possible that the show's writers have another rhyme in mind? If not, and if clitoris really is never mispronounced in the way it has to be for the rhyme to work (even by children), then the writers goofed. Has anyone ever heard the mispronounciation?

andeeeeeeeeBARKAN

writes:

well i for one have definitely heard this mispronounciation. in fact, go rent the movie Shirley Valentine and you will hear a whole discussion on the matter.....great movie, too.

-andy

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Rachel HillBARKAN

In article writes:

   Well, if we all agrsee Delores rhymes with clitoris but only if you
   mispronounce clitoris (and I've never heard it mispronounced that
   way, not that I've ever heard it pronounced at all), is it possible
   that the show's writers have another rhyme in mind? If not, and if
   clitoris really is never mispronounced in the way it has to be for
   the rhyme to work (even by children), then the writers goofed. Has
   anyone ever heard the mispronounciation?
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I think I have heard this mispronounciation, but somehow I just can't buy the Delores-clitoris theory. Jerry is really retentive in a lot of areas and pronounciation is one of them--witness Svengali-Svenjali or Salman-Salmon. I can just hear him saying: "First of all, you idiot, it's CLIT-or-is, not clit-TORE-us..." I think that him coming up with the name Delores at the very end of the show was just a way for them to torture the viewers and keep us wondering and talking about this episode--a brilliant strategy since now "Seinfeld" is not just ABOUT minor irritations in everyday life, it's actually creating them.

Robert W. NorthcottRachel Hill

I think that clitoris is mispronounced with the accent on the second syllable quite frequently - many people may not ever have the occasion to hear it pronounced at all and just assume that it has the second syllable accented, which is a natural thing to assume sometimes. I have had conversations to this effect with more than one person before. Therefore, I think that although most people agree that it is pronounced with the accent on the first syllable, it is mispronounced with enough frequency to make the fact that a stickler like Jerry is willing to knowingly "mispronounce" it to rhyme with "Delores" a way to show his desperation at not remembering her name and losing her. That's what I think.

just call me johnBARKAN

writes:

I do seem to recall my 7th grade health teacher to pronounce it cli-TOR-is rather than cli-ter-is. (she corrected a student who pronounced it cli-ter-is)

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Randy C. CosbyRoy Eassa

I disagree. I was a theatre major, and if you break it down to the latin root, as we learned in voice and diction, the accent is on the second syllable. Or, ask your doctor. The only place I have ever heard it pronounced with the accent on the first syllable was in a porno movie.

Let the flames begin.

COz

emceeRandy C. Cosby

I have always heard it pronounced as cliTORis, but I do believe that it can be pronounced BOTH ways and still be correct.

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zombieRandy C. Cosby

The American Heritage Dictionary, 1987:

clit-o-ris (clit'*r-is)

Where * is the upside down "e" like in "about". The accent is on the syllable.

zombie

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Roy EassaRandy C. Cosby

[email] (Randy C. Cosby) writes:

Check out a dictionary, bucko. You're just wrong.

Michael O. BrandtRoy Eassa

Sorry, the word clitoris isn't from Latin. It's from the Greek _kleitoris_. My dictionary lists both pronunciations, with KILT-er-is first.

David C ValenzuelaJon Conrad

In article , [email] (Jon Conrad) writes...

i was pretty sure it was gonna be Virginia.

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Wes SimondsDavid C Valenzuela

Several people have said this... what does Virginia rhyme with? Not even close to vagina, if that's what you're thinking of... I'm sorry, but the bowels (excuse me, that's 'vowels') aren't even close.

zombieChris T Papaleonardos

I couldn't figure it out either and had to ask around. Aparrently, it rhymes with clitoris, you just have to say it funny: _ cli-TOR-us

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R KamalChris T Papaleonardos

I'm standing in the shower today, prolonging it to 20 bloody minutes because I can't figure out what Dolores rhymes with. Then it hits me even harder and more abruptly than it hit Jerry:

CLITORIS.

R Kamaljcapuan

Aretha? I was thinking urethra, but, er, call me ignorant (I never took biology) but isn't urethra, and for that matter anything with the ur- prefix usually a part of the male anatomy? I'm probably wrong, though.

BTW, is Mulva a real name?

the manR Kamal

[email] (R Kamal) writes:

Far as I know, all of us folks have a urethra :).

just me

emceeR Kamal

Yes, it is, but it's a very old name that I'm not sure is even used anymore.

Marie

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Mark McLainjcapuan

[email] writes:

Let's see if we can wrap this whole thing up...

Delores - Clitoris

Mulva - Vulva

Aretha - Urethra

Dipple - Nipple

Hest - Chest

These are the one's I recall from the show. If you don't know what they mean (from previous responses I'm sure some won't)... look them up!

andeeeeeeeeMark McLain

[email] (Mark McLain) writes:

^^^^^---i think BREAST was intended here....we ALL have chests. oh, also CELESTE.

-andy

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Mark McLainMark McLain

[email] (Mark McLain) writes:

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figured I'd better post this to everyone before I got more anal retentive mail.

Anthony L. SommersMark McLain

I heard "Gipple"... It doesn't matter, but did anyone else hear "Gipple"?

Celeste - Breast Bovary - :)

Derek W. TotenAnthony L. Sommers

Yes, on my tape, Jerry says "Gipple." I can't say what the rest of the country heard... Of course, Gipple and Dipple being such common names for women these days, it's certainly easy to see the confusion.

Derek

Derek Toten

allan jenoffjcapuan

Here's my vote on the Dolores issue:

Car:            Taurus
Fish:          Remoras
Body Part:  Clitoris
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JASON MATTHEW MCDONALDallan jenoff

I really can't understand why nobody's pick up on this. jerry is a YOer. I am so proud to be the practitioner of the forgotten art of YO, especially with jerry on my side now. YOers unite.

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