"Watching Ellie" is back...

Mar 28, 2003, 12:28 PM ET37 posts by 22 postersalt.tv.seinfeld
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Jason Malt.tv.seinfeld

After what has it been two years of hiatus, its back?

I thought this show was gone for good, I don't care for the show much, but im sure someone out there must like it because the "Real Time" show is back.

Lets see if Julia can pull this off...

Emmy Award-winning actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus ("Seinfeld") returns for a second season as the star of the half-hour comedy detailing the life of a Los Angeles club singer, Ellie Riggs (Louis-Dreyfus). Ellie is a single woman living in Los Angeles who each week confronts all manner of annoyances - whether she's sacrificing artistry for her next paycheck or returning to her shrink to confront relationship issues. Surrounding Ellie's world is her pretty, married younger sister Susan (Lauren Bowles, "Ghost World"); her ex-boyfriend with an offbeat sense of humor, Edgar (Steve Carell, "The Daily Show"); her on-again/off-again boyfriend, band guitarist Ben (Darren Boyd, BBC's "Smack the Pony"); and her oddball veterinarian neighbor, Dr. Zimmerman (Don Lake, "Best in Show").

This season, show is filmed in front of studio audience. "Watching Ellie"is written and created by executive producer Brad Hall (NBC's "Saturday Night Live," "Brooklyn Bridge"), and is produced by NBC Studios.

Joe3000Jason Malt.tv.seinfeld

Can someone post it to the binary group please?

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Once a bomb, always a bomb. Dreyfuss doesn't have the talent to be a lead. I give it 5 weeks, tops.

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lead.

I for one adore JLD, and will watch Ellie for that reason alone (oh, and that voice!). But I find the rest of the cast very odd and irritating.

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zvoidxJason Malt.tv.seinfeld

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Tomaszvoidxalt.tv.seinfeld

And it's no better than it was. Dreyfus wasn't very good and the curse continues.

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JnkmercerTomasalt.tv.seinfeld

I hate the Ellie character, I know she is making a point to not be like Elain of fear of being type casted. But the sad truth is she will never be as good as her old character. Julia just retire, raise your kids and sit on the pot of money you and your husband has made.

Art VandelayTomasalt.tv.seinfeld

<<<And it's no better than it was. Dreyfus wasn't very good and the curse continues.>>>

Guess nobody told Jerry Stiller and Larry David about "the curse."

^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."

NooneArt Vandelayalt.tv.seinfeld

In article , [email] says...

It seems to effect only the fab four. Other people from the production or minor roles from Seinfeld have done quite well.

Three down, one to go.

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Judge I think it was a shame what you did to my 4 favorite people!

stevehoranTomasalt.tv.seinfeld

"Tomas" wrote in message news:b7jld0$cqe$[email]...

Oh shuddup! It's not JLD's fault that the show sucks. Someone has this crazy notion that it's funny to surround JLD with a bunch of horny guys lobbing dumb pickup lines or getting all flummoxed in her presence. To be fair, I only watched a minute or two but some guy made a joke about the north pole being in hip Lapland or something and that was all I needed to move on. God, awful.

If Mr. Louis-Dreyfus is still at the helm of this miserable show she should divorce him, professionally speaking.

Jnkmercerstevehoranalt.tv.seinfeld

Im glad they got rid of the real time aspect, but if JLD wants to make it on primetime she better start taking more control of her show. Jerry controlled every aspect of his show. She needs to get Larry David on her payroll, or get some guest appearances from the cast of Seinfeld. Hell get Newman if you have to.

TomJnkmerceralt.tv.seinfeld

The core problem is the star's remarkable lack of talent.

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SDTomalt.tv.seinfeld

That's total BS.

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Dan CooganJnkmerceralt.tv.seinfeld

I liked it and will watch the rest of the shows that are aired. The scene with Julia cavorting in front of her boyfriend was very reminiscent of Elaine.

I laughed during the course of the show and thought it was better that a lot of comedies on the current television lineup (My Wife and Kids, 8 simple rules, Life with Jim, Bonnie Hunt, ...etc.)

I like Hidden Hills a lot, but that was on in the current time slot for Watching Ellie (And I liked the real time aspect - oh well)

best, Dan

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Watching

Was it Bonnie Hunt who had Robin Williams on her show as a phsychic? He was hilarious!

It was obviously not scripted, and he was just improvising and the whole cast was laughing their heads off... Apart from that, her show is pretty bad...

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JnkmercerEralt.tv.seinfeld

I hope it grows overtime, I do have to agree JLD was one of the weaker of the Fab 4 but with the right supporting cast it could grow. Oh well I give the show 6 weeks.

JLD can be on my screen if she just wants to read a book!

People, I think you're seeing "Watching Ellie" with your Seinfeld glasses on.... and there will only ever be ONE Seinfeld. The really funny spots are getting closer and closer together and the show will, if given the run, be top shelf in its own right.

You can't tell me you're suffering watching JLD while this is going on! Julia, you crack me up!

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"stevehoran" wrote in message news:...

The jokes are good but they were too "forced". Some of the lines would have been funnier if they had been more conversational, instead of so in-your-face-here's-the-punchline. Way too frenetic. That Icelandic girl still haunts my dreams, though.

Tomzvoidxalt.tv.seinfeld

The show doesn't have a chance, primarily because the "star" is weak and incapable of being entertaining on her own.

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VPaternoTomalt.tv.seinfeld

Nonsense. Julia Louis-Dreyfus has had success outside of "Seinfeld," such as at "Saturday Night Live." She does have some comedic talent -- but it may not be as a sitcom lead (as opposed to part of a sitcom ensemble as on "Seinfeld"). And there's no inherent shame in that; lightning strikes twice in the same category for very few sitcom actors.

I could see her doing something musical -- one good thing about "Watching Ellie" is that it reminds people what a capable singing voice she has -- but can that format convert into episodic TV? She may have to consider movie or stage work to go in that direction, and that may not work well with her schedule and family concerns. Moreover, converting from one medium to another isn't always the easiest thing to do, since the audiences for each are far different.

In a professional way, I feel sorry for Julia that the ghost of Elaine will haunt her for the rest of her career (note I used the caveat "professional"; personally, she can probably live an extremely comfortable life on "Seinfeld" residuals and wise investments), and that barring something really major, she'll never quite be able to escape that character. I think one major mistake was naming the new character "Ellie"; it's simply too close to Elaine to avoid the comparisons.

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"There is no such thing as accident. It is Fate--misnamed." --title card, Erich Von Stroheim's "The Wedding March," 1928

stevehoranVPaternoalt.tv.seinfeld

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IMO, she wasn't very funny on SNL but, again, that could be down to the writing. SNL generally kinda sucks anyway - they had two good periods: the first three or so seasons and then in the late 80's/early 90's with Dana Carvey and Phil Hartman.

I remember that JLD's career started a resurgence when she was on sumb dumb sitcom and I think her character was named "Eileen" (again with the E names?!). The character was kinda similar to that blonde who was on Bob Newhart's second sitcom (the one set in Vermont). I was happy at the time that she'd redeemed herself after SNL - but who knew what the future held?

schumyVPaternoalt.tv.seinfeld

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Bottom line: she's a nearly-great (almost Lucy-like, I think) comedic actress in a poorly-conceived and badly written show.

Jnkmercerschumyalt.tv.seinfeld

Your talking about the show "Day by Day"? or something like that? Her character was the same type of character she played in Xmas vacation.

schumyTomalt.tv.seinfeld

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Yes.

Can you name a better comedic actress (besides Carol Burnette) right now?

See what I mean?

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Andrea Martin

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Rachel Dratch Nicole Sullivan Andrea Martin Catherine O'Hara Maya Rudolph Tracy Ullman Lauren Graham

^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."

Geo. C.Art Vandelayalt.tv.seinfeld

Anyone is a better comedic actress than Dreyfus except Kudrow and Garafalo.

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schumyGeo. C.alt.tv.seinfeld

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Rachel Dratch     no way
Nicole Sullivan   no
Andrea Martin     once upon a time
Catherine O'Hara  ditto
Maya Rudolph      who?
Tracy Ullman       yes i forgot about her
Lauren Graham     who?
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stevehoranschumyalt.tv.seinfeld

"schumy" wrote in message

Wouldn't you just love to hear Elaine say "schumy" the way she says "Newmy" to Newman?

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She's a one-note comic actress like Julie Kavner.

She is funny.

She's still funny but she needs some material here.

You haven't seen her in "A Mighty Wind", she's great in that.

She's also on SNL. SNL has gotten so bad that I can't really appreciate any of the cast.

She's talented but she's never very funny, IMO.

Who's that? The conservative Talk Radio host? She's about as funny as Rush Limbaugh in a helium chamber.

Okay okay, that's Laura Ingraham. I got noooo clue who Laura Graham is. The choreographer?

No, that's Martha. The cracker heiress?

-Star of "Gilmore Girls" -former semi-regular on News Radio -appeared on Seinfeld as Jerry's speed-dial girlfriend (think "The Graduate")

^^^^^^ "Art is often hailed as the grandest expression of human spirit, but we know now ... that the grandest expression of human spirit is whatever it takes for a man or woman to rush back into a burning building to save more people."

"Cyrus Afzali" wrote in message >>

really actresses? I mean, they're all good comediennes, but they

None on the list is known as a stand-up; all are actresses. Off the top of my head, here's some of their comedic acting experience (for a more detailed list, try www.imdb.com):

R Dratch: SNL, King of Queens N Sullivan: MAD-TV, King of Queens, Drew Carey Show A Martin: SCTV, Big Fat Greek Life, Club Paradise C O'Hara: SCTV, Home Alone, Waiting For Guffman, A Mighty Wind M Rudolph: Saturday Night Live L Graham: Seinfeld, NewsRadio, Gilmore Girls

Boris ZArt Vandelayalt.tv.seinfeld

Dreyfus is neither comedienne nor actress.

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now?

Scott PVPaternoalt.tv.seinfeld

On 19 Apr 2003 04:19:38 GMT, [email] (VPaterno) wrote:

It also doesn't hurt her father is a multi-millionaire, if not a billionaire.

Even if she never found acting she would have done pretty nicely in that respect.

Scott