Newman's first name

Newman's card from the post office just says "Newman". Does Newman have a first name?

Or could Newman BE his first name...???...

Jaycey wrote in article ...

No I think it's Alfred (middle name) Newman

In the episode (it's a 2 parter) where Elaine buys JFK's golfclubs for Mr. Peterman.. and Kramer and Newman concoct the bottle scheme... when Newman goes to the farmhouse (in part 2).. when the father gets the shotgun out.. did I hear or was I imagining the girl say "Bye Norman"???? Would this mean that his name is Norman Newman?!?

Any thoughts, ideas..etc?

-Ang

we all know Newman has no fist name and they've gone out of their way to hide it this season in scenes such as where Newman flashes his mail card to get George's photos. She shouted "NORMAN" as sort of an ironic joke without alot of irony. Just a little extra larry david trew in there to add to the ending.

kurt, [email] wrote:

How do you know that? Is that your opinion or do you have some proof to share with us?

The fact of the matter is, the actress simply slipped up; she was *supposed* to say "Newman." Jerry and the writers, however, felt the gaffe was more humorous than the intended nubile bumpkin's lamentation, and left it in. Go figure.

[email] (Jason Schroeder) wrote:

=========================== In the episode where Kramer put up the photos of the apartment residents,under Newman's picture,he put Newman,under everyone elses,he put their first name.

-In the episode (it's a 2 parter) where Elaine buys JFK's golfclubs for Mr. -Peterman.. and Kramer and Newman concoct the bottle scheme... when -Newman -goes to the farmhouse (in part 2).. when the father gets the shotgun out.. -did I hear or was I imagining the girl say "Bye Norman"???? Would this -mean that his name is Norman Newman?!? - -Any thoughts, ideas..etc?

Before she called him Norman she said "But, daddy, I LOVE HIM!". By calling him Norman it became obvious that she didn't love him, because she didn't even know his name.

OJs a liar wrote in article ...

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I don't subscribe to your argument. I think the purpose of the name situation was not to tell us viewers anything about love, but to emphasize the girls intelligence. It was hardly 85.

Besides, you don't really need to know someones name to love them. (She was probably blinded (deafened) by his looks). No, seriously - think of all the young girls around the world who love the idiots in Take That - they may know their names, but they've never even talked to them!

<<when the father gets the shotgun out.. did I hear or was I imagining the girl say "Bye Norman"???? Would this mean that his name is Norman Newman?!?>>

no, it means that she was mispronouncing his name.

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Yes it is his name, that's what George calls him when he's arguing w/Mike over the parking space.

I agree that the name she said was clearly "Norman" and not Newman. It makes me wonder though if it wasn't just a slip on her part and it wasn't corrected for some reason. This is the only instance where his first name has ever been mentioned. (if that was his first name) Even on his business card it only has "Newman". I tend to think it was a mistake by the actress.

Jim

What I think really happened is that the screenwriters wanted to show that the farmgirl was so stupid and sexually hungry that she couldn't even remember the name

Jim McKinley wrote in article ...

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I have to agree with the top comment...the line was intentional and meant to imply stupidity etc. I find it hard to swallow that this type of mistake would pass through all the channels. Just my $.02. Regards, Dan

The actress was suppose to say "Norman"

Of course that was the point. Some of you people are clueless. If your IQ is so low that you can't understand basic irony, please go post somewhere else. You're giving this group a bad name.

Maybe the joke is that she was willing to sleep with him, but didn't even know his proper name?

Or maybe, the woman said "Norman" because she's supposed to be the stereotypical stupid country girl. Surely if she had slipped up and said Norman by mistake, they would have done the scene over again??? Maybe they'll do with Newman's name what they did with Kramer's, but then again, Newman is not one of the main characters so I doubt if revealing his name would have the same effect as Kramer's. And also, maybe the characters know his name already but he gets called Newman. Or then again.......and I could go on....

Brendan Bugeja

On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, Jim McKinley wrote:

Brendan Michael Bugeja wrote:

I just don't get it. Will someone explain to me why it can't just be as simple as this: she called him Norman because that's his name? Maybe it's not, but I don't see how we make the leap to explanations like she's a stupid country girl, it was a mistake by the actress. Why is that easier to believe than accepting the statement on face value?

Will someone explain to me why it can't just be as simple as this: she called him Norman because that's his name?

   ** When I saw the episode, I thought that was the point:  the
      big finish for the double episode is that we find out Newman's
      first name.  However, the series continued as if Newman's
      first name was as much of a mystery as ever.  Now, it's true
      that the rest of the characters wouldn't have learned it from
      the farmer's daughter, but if we the audience know it, then
      it's a pretty flat mystery to build jokes around anyway.

      My theory is that we were supposed to understand that Newman
      had given the farmer's daughter a phony name.  But whatever
      it is that we were supposed to understand, we sure don't
      understand it clearly enough, so what we have here is bad
      writing...
                                               Nosnivel

NONONONONONO...to reiterate what my fellow Seinfeld fan said who recently attended a taping where Jerry did a Q&A, the girl accidently screwed up the name, but they found it funny and kept it in, to show her stupidity!!! This is TRUE! not a lie, and stop saying that his name is Norman, because IT ISN'T!!!

NONONONONONO...to reiterate what my fellow Seinfeld fan said who recently attended a taping where Jerry did a Q&A, the girl accidently screwed up the name, but they found it funny and kept it in, to show her stupidity!!!

              ** Hers, or theirs?
                                      Grumpily,
                                      Nosnivel

The stupidity of the character...it seemed to them that it fit better...

[snip...]

[snip...]

Okay, people, I've explained this once, but it appears I'll just have to do it again. I recently attended a Seinfeld taping (for "The Suzy"), and at the inception Jerry takes a little Q&A. Someone asked if any of the cast members had extemporized during the shooting of a scene. Jerry responded, no, no one had, as they rehearse each scene so thoroughly that all the humor would have already been wrung out by the day of the taping. He went on to say that though no cast member (i.e., Jerry, Michael, Julia, Jason) had done so, one of the minor characters *had* done something similar: the beautiful, blond, buccolic bumpkin, or at least the character who played her, had slipped up, saying "I love you, Norman", rather than the prescribed "I love you, Newman". Jerry and the gang got a greater chuckle out of this cry than what they had written, so they kept it.

I hope this cleared things up for people.

[email] (Jason Schroeder) wrote:

Yours is the only explanation that holds water. The rest are pure speculation. If what you say is true, then that should settle it.

Because, outside of that instance, the producers and writers have gone out of they're way to make the name as ambigous as possible (ie. his Buisness Card which simply read US Postal Service - Newman)...I highly doubt that Norman is his first name, even for the simple reason that NBC did not market that, like they would've if it was his first name (ie. the ads for revealing Cosmo)

debbie wrote:

Because it doesn't make sense that the writers would reveal Newman's first name in just this one context. It isn't funny, and it serves no purpose. However, in the context of the country girl not even getting his name right, it's ironic, and therefore humorous (to those who understand irony, I guess). It's like in the episode where Elaine asked Kramer to impersonate a doctor and retrieve her medical chart. He asked, "You're last name's Bennett, right?" and she replied, "No, you jackass, Benes--my name is Benes!!" Kramer, one of Elaine's best friends, should surely know her last name. In the same way, the country girl, having just been "intimate" with Newman, should at least have gotten his name right. Irony.

Jack Garceau wrote:

But this is pure speculation on your part. The only explanation that makes sense so far is what Mark L. Levinson wrote:

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"NONONONONONO...to reiterate what my fellow Seinfeld fan said who recently attended a taping where Jerry did a Q&A, the girl accidently screwed up the name, but they found it funny and kept it in, to show her stupidity!!!

              ** Hers, or theirs?
                                      Grumpily,
                                      Nosnivel"
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But this is pure speculation on your part. The only explanation that makes sense so far is what Mark L. Levinson wrote:

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"NONONONONONO...to reiterate what my fellow Seinfeld fan said who recently attended a taping where Jerry did a Q&A, the girl accidently screwed up the name, but they found it funny and kept it in, to show her stupidity!!!

              ** Hers, or theirs?
                                      Grumpily,
                                      Nosnivel"
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       Well, just to set the record straight, only the line
       with the asterisks is mine.  But I accept the rest,
       grumpily.    - Mark L. "Nosnivel" Levinson

It is not speculation...it is fact, as said by Jerry Seinfeld himself...

"Mark L. Levinson" wrote:

Sorry, I try to be careful about that, but I messed up.