I just wanted to point out or remind all newsgroup members that Jerry Stiller (Frank Costanza) is busy these days appearing in NFL commercials for either Fox or ESPN. He plays a Vince Lombardi (Green Bay Packers in the 1960's) style coach who is yelling and screaming about modern football. He really seems to be playing George's dad as much as anything. The commercials are great, if you like Jerry Stiller.
Be seeing you. Steve Fine.