The Organizer

S05E14 The Marine BiologistliveFeb 10, 1994, 9:44 PM ET10 hours later18 posts by 15 posters
😐 Mixed

Viewers find the episode entertaining but criticize excessive coincidences; discuss George's romantic prospects and unresolved plot points about Newman and Kramer's mysterious income source.

18 posts
Jean-Guy D. Speton

Maybe this one should be called "The Coincidence"? FAR too many coincidences marred what was otherwise a pretty good show. Much better than last week's abomination, at least.

Something about the "Golden Boy" speel struck me as hilarious, although I don't know why. :)

Will George *ever* get the girl?

Now, who wants to have some fun?

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Chip BayersJean-Guy D. Speton

There was one unresolved coincidence involving thrown or dropped objects. We know what happened to the organizer, Kramer's golf ball, etc. But what happened to NEWMAN? Will the mystery be solved in a future episode?

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Christopher OgrenChip Bayers

Good question. I don't think he has been on the show much this season. I would guess that not much will be said of that incident. There are more pressing questions which have gone unanswered. I really wonder what Kramer does for money. Maybe he own the lottery or something. I remember George mentioning something about Kramer "falling ass backward in the money". Any other ideas?

Christopher Ogren PSTC at Brown University

Wendy TyrolChristopher Ogren

Maybe Kramer LITERALLY falls "ass backward" into money...i.e., he's a gigolo. After all, he seems to have quite a way with women...seducing a lesbian, getting further with Jerry's ex, landing the nudist, etc. At least, Kramer is the most sexually-liberated.

Either that, or he relies on the sheer power of personality to have others pick up the tab!

Wendy

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ThwartedEffortsChristopher Ogren

I have all last season on tape (except for 2 or 3 episodes, and I don't know which ones)...If you watch closely, Kramer is always doing something that will get him money: Posing in a Calvin Klein ad Betting on a horse who's a "mudder" Coming up with weird business ideas (I think he only followed through on one) Free-lance acting (Murphy Brown)

Andy [email]

I need the episode of Jerry's accountant taking drugs, 4th show from fall '93... that's the only one I'm missing!!!! .s

ThwartedEffortsThwartedEfforts
My boss and I recently got into a fight over who on the show was Jewish... he
insisted that all four of them were... I fought back with these facts:
1. George's mother asks him why he can't find a nice catholic girl
   (when she's in the hospital)
2. George attempts to become some domination in order to win the
   approval of some woman
3. Kramer is against circumcision "It makes sex more pleasureable."
4. Elaine is against people attending a bris and doesn't know what a
   moil (or however you spell it) is.
   "attended the finest finishing schools on the eastern sea board...
    now she's looking for a moil."

Not to say that all Jewish people are knowledgable in all these respects, but I would assume that there would be less concentration on it if they all were Jewish (or meant to be)

Andy [email]
Joshua Reuben RovnerThwartedEfforts

In [email] (Andrew A. Bakun) writes:

Two people with way too much time on their hands.

Robert D DawsonThwartedEfforts

I always thought George was raised a Catholic, but then that big debate raged about the Costanza/Jewish name thing that I thought that maybe I was wrong. BUT now I feel a little more legitimized. So what is it?

Jewish or Catholic? my vote is for Catholic.

robert.tempted

Roy EassaRobert D Dawson

[email] (Robert D Dawson) writes:

Catholic of course. Why would a TV show creator name a Jewish person Costanza?

Joshua DanielsRoy Eassa

George and his parents are very Jewish regardless of what religeon you think they are. I've never heard of kasha being served in an Italian home. The writers gave the character and Italian name because the show has 3 Jewish actors and because Jerry, the main character is Jewish. Notice that Elaine is also Catholic (she refers to Father Celios in the "Nipple" episode".) I think that if they had clearly refered to George being Jewish, that the show might be two Jewish for the viewing public given the aforementioned Jewishness of the show. Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David (also a Jew, I might add) were simply playing it "safe".

Take it from me, I've had my share of kasha,

Joshua Daniels Joshua Daniels UW Madison [email] Med. School 608-257-2335 Dept. of Anatomy 608-262-3327
Roy EassaJoshua Daniels

[email] (Joshua Daniels) writes:

Well, your post presents the first plausible reason why a sitcom creator would give an Italian name to a Jewish character. Until now, nobody could answer this.

SNYDER JOHN DAVIDThwartedEfforts

He wasn't taking drugs. He was allergic to Jerry's alpaca sweater. If I had another VCR, I'd make a copy of the episode.

hudginsaSNYDER JOHN DAVID

It was never proven whether he was taking drugs, but it ended with him filing for bankrupcy, and in Jerry's opinion: 'Bankrupcy. Bankrupcy. As in I've taken your money and spent it on drugs!' (that may not be a completely accurate quote)

Allan Hudgins - EMail: [email] "Well that all depends on what you mean by... 'happen'" - Kramer
Thomas L. JonesSNYDER JOHN DAVID

I may be wrong, but I think you are mistaken. I thought it turned out that he really was hooked on drugs, because at the end of the episode everybody's money was gone and everyone was pissed at Newman for not mailing the letter.

Vikas SontakkeJean-Guy D. Speton

May be he made his millions and millions with his cut from Jurrasic Park movie??

Vikas Sontakke [email]
MajorBBS: Big TJean-Guy D. Speton

IW> IW> IW>Christopher Ogren ([email]) wrote: IW>: questions which have gone unanswered. I really wonder what Kramer does fo IW>: Maybe he own the lottery or something. I remember George mentioning somet IW>: about Kramer "falling ass backward in the money". Any other ideas? IW> IW>Maybe Kramer LITERALLY falls "ass backward" into money...i.e., he's a IW>gigolo. After all, he seems to have quite a way with women...seducing a IW>lesbian, getting further with Jerry's ex, landing the nudist, etc. At IW>least, Kramer is the most sexually-liberated. IW> IW>Either that, or he relies on the sheer power of personality to have IW>others pick up the tab! IW> IW>Wendy

I don't thin anyone likes Kramer after he had the curse taken away from him.

MajorBBS: Big TJean-Guy D. Speton

IS>>I need the episode of Jerry's accountant taking drugs, 4th show from fall IS>>'93... that's the only one I'm missing!!!!

IS>He wasn't taking drugs. He was allergic to Jerry's alpaca sweater. If I had IS>another VCR, I'd make a copy of the episode.

In the end they found out he WAS snoring cocaine! Don't yo remember???