live audience vs. laugh track, and fim vs. video

Feb 3, 2006, 1:39 AM ET6 posts by 5 posters
Question

Fans discuss whether Seinfeld increasingly used a laugh track and debate why the show was shot on film rather than video, with side discussion about film vs. video in other TV productions.

6 posts
Ryan Meier

It seems that as the show went on a laugh track was used more and more. At least it sure seems this way to me...can anyone confirm this? Anyone know why this was done?

Also, why was the series done with film as opposed to video? Wouldn't the effect of film be lost when broadcast/

Chester WashingtonRyan Meier

Ryan Meier wrote in news:[email]:

I can't think of a single current show (except reality shit) shot on videotape. It just doesn't look right. They experimented with it after 1 inch came out in the mid-70's and I guess no one really liked it. Shooting is no big deal anyway - it's fucking hell either way - and it's all edited on video, which is about a billion times simpler than editing film.

There is a BIG difference between film, video, and videotape look. The last two have become indistinguishable since video quality has improved so dramatically (let's not even get into HDTV) but I remember when I was a kid I used to amaze my family by being able to tell instantly whether it was film, live TV, or videotape on the screen.

I guess it depends on your perception skills.

lugnutChester Washington

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:08:03 -0600, Chester Washington wrote:

Actually, isn't Curb Your Enthusiasm shot on video? Seems like I remember reading it was shot on digital-video, then an effect was added in post to make it look more "film-like." ...but I may be imagining things.

-lugnut

Chester Washingtonlugnut

[email] (lugnut) wrote in news:[email]:

I read ages ago that "Twin Peaks" (now THERE was tasty morsel of "TV") was shot on video and "made" to look like film. Then they said it was a lie, that it was shot on film. It's not very easy to duplicate the semi-alchemical "film-look" even using digital technology. I have yet to see HDTV with my own eyes but I know the resolution is better than 35mm and that it looks incredible. I wonder how much of the "video" look it still has, though.

Undoubtedly, digital processing of the "add blurriness and grain etc" type COULD within a few years make video (especially HD) look exactly like film, but there is also the content of the image from a technical standpoint. The image recorded by light is very different than that recorded by electricity. Also, film is shot with different lenses and the camera people are not as free with the zoom function (I think the latest pro video cam zooms go up to 40x OPTICAL - the digital figures, found only in consumer models, are bullshit). That's what you need for sports events etc. But once you've got it, you use it. Indiscriminately.

Most FILM camera lenses were either prime (that means not zoom, fixed focal length - and some cameramen STILL insist on using them for a variety of reasons) or maybe up to 10-15x optical max. And NOT as overused, except in cheap Spanish horror movies.

BTW never even heard of Curb Your Enthusiasm so I don't know.

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Gazzoolugnut

Yes, you are correct...I believe "The Office" is also done this way.

D-unitChester Washington

"Chester Washington" wrote in message news:[email]...

A few 70's sitcoms were shot in video and they looked "cheap"

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