In "The Apology", George is talking to Hanky's alcoholic sponsor. He tells him that when he was in the cub scouts. He got stuck on something for 3 years because he kept losing the pinewood derby.
I was just wondering if someone could explain what George is talking about, as I am not familiar with scouting activities
In Boy Scouts, a child starts out as a Cub, then like bear, wolf, something else, and then webelos in 4th grade (which is what George said he was stuck on) before he becomes an actual "Boy Scout". The pinewood derby is a race in which the scouts build cars like 10 inches long, and run them down a small track. However, no one gets stuck on a certain level because he can't win.
Aaron [email] wrote in message ...
I was a cub scout for two years then "graduated" to Webelos. (The word was sort of ebonics shorthand for "We be loyal scouts", I kid you not.) I never made it past this level. It seems that somewhere around 4th grade, I discovered a life. :)
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dumb children with no parental supervision, and access to a hammer.Dave wrote:
LOL. you call THIS a life? :-)
Why you little...
Hey, I was sorta miffed that not a single person commented on my Seinfeld memorabilia collection list. And there was a comment at the bottom directed towards you personally but you never responded. Did that post even make it to other servers? Did you see it Mike?
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dumb children with no parental supervision, and access to a hammer.Dave ratboy wrote: "Hey, I was sorta miffed that not a single person commented on my Seinfeld memorabilia collection list......Did that post even make it to other servers?....."
I was looking for it, but your list never showed up on my server.
So that's it! I was wondering. Ok, well, let's give it another go.
Without further ado, I give you...
Ratboy's Seinfeld memorabilia collection. (Thank god for dejanews.)
Books Do a search at Amazon.com under 'Seinfeld', I have one of each.
Videos All 180 episodes, 2 Emmy consideration tapes (from '97 and '98, both still in plastic), the Stand-Up Confidential tape, the "I'm telling you for the last time" tape, the 100th Episode tape, both Seinfeld blooper tapes, and about 11 hours of taped pre and post-Finale hype (Interviews, restrospectives, speculation, A&E Biography specials, Letterman, Leno, Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight, Hard Copy, yada yada yada.)
Magazines About 60 of all kinds. EW, Rolling Stone, Time, People, Newsweek, GQ, Playboy, 9 different TV Guides and a number of tribute mags released around the time of the Finale.
Clothing 7 t-shirts, a sweatshirt, 2 baseball caps and a leather jacket that's two sizes too small for me but looks great hanging in my closet.
Assorted A Seinfeld wall calender from 1994. (I can use it again next year.)
A wall clock with the Seinfeld logo in the center.
2 decks of Seinfeld logo playing cards.
2 PEZ dispensers, one with Tweety's head (the same one Jerry made Elaine laugh with in "The Pez Dispenser"), and one custom made PEZ dispenser with Jerry's head.
2 Seinfeld logo yo-yos, one off-white with a Duncan logo on the obverse and the other bright pink.
2 Seinfeld mouse pads, one with a group shot, the other with the logo.
Two Kellogg's Granola boxes (one with green borders, one with pink) with cutouts of Jerry and the gang on the back and a mail in offer for a plastic Seinfeld logo cereal bowl.
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11 coffee mugs with various Seinfeld related graphics, no two are alike.
1 oversized Seinfeld logo cappucino mug. (Great for soup or chili.)
A framed wall hanging of 4 8"x10"s autographed by the gang.
3 $1 bills, one each with pictures of Jerry, Kramer and the fab four in place of Washington's face.
13 assorted Seinfeld magnets including magnetic representations of three Rolling Stone covers.
25 assorted pins and buttons including several gold bordered Seinfeld logo lapel pins, a few buttons from Final Episode celebrations in Miami, LA and NYC, and a bunch with pictures of the gang.
A backstage pass (radio contest prize) to the official NBC Final Episode party in Miami.
Newpaper clippings from where I was quoted in USA TODAY concerning thoughts on the final episode, and from where the Miami Herald did a write-up on the Seinfeld FAQ.
A "Seinfeld Express Card" mockup in a display box sent by Paramount to potential network affiliates.
6 boxes of matches featuring the Seinfeld logo and photos of Jerry, Julia and Michael in their now infamous "Wizard of Oz" outfits. (Still looking for Jason.)
1 original Seinfeld episode shooting script. From "The Caddy". (It's the prop guy's copy. It includes notes about what he's going to need for each scene. Really cool.)
An ASSMAN license plate from NY. Not real, but stamped aluminum painted to look exactly like the real ASSMAN plate. (I keep it in my car window.)
A nearly life sized cardboard cutout of the gang (from a bookstore promotion when EW devoted their issue to Seinfeld).
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An actual ticket to the taping of the pilot episode in 1989, and another ticket for a season 5 episode but it doesn't say which.
A 500 piece jigsaw puzzle of "The Kramer" portrait. Unopened.
A $1000 "Seinbucks" bill. (Fake money given to the crew for a "Vegas Night" party.)
3 Seinfeld switchplates, one of Jerry, one of George ("The Timeless Art of Seduction") and one of Kramer ("The Kramer", same as the puzzle.)
About 35 assorted Seinfeld greeting cards for all occasions.
An exact replica of the lunch menu from Monk's Coffee Shop.
And an unopened Seinfeld CD complete with a 10-minute calling card (inside the shrink wrap.)
Wow. What am I missing? There are actually a few things I've got an eye out for. There's a genuine Swiss Army knife with the Seinfeld logo on it, and the Superman figurine.
If anyone has anything that's not on this list, please send me an e-mail. I'm pretty sure we can work something out.
Mike, if you've read this far, and if you haven't gotten rid of the Jeopardy game, I'll make you a deal. I don't want the game, just the fateful card with the misprinted answer. I'll take it for what you spent on the game. Let me know.
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Yes I saw it but as you know I was trying to sell it on eBay - I was going to email you in defeat. Such public humiliation.
But then you discovered Seinfeld. Paul Dave wrote in message news:[email]...
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ok, sad that I know this... In boy scouts you start off as a wolf, then graduate to bear scout, then cub scout, then webelos scout. In cub and webelos scout theres a pinewood derby. It's where you build mini cars from a block of wood and race them down a track. I came in 3rd one year. But, george said he was stuck on webelos scout since he couldn't win. many people in my "pack" couldn't win, and moved on. webelos scout is 4th grade, then boy scout is 5th or 6th... then eagle when you're older. I quit in webelos thankfully...
Jeff
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:57:22 GMT, "Jeff Pilcicki" wrote:
=[ok, sad that I know this... In boy scouts you start off as a wolf, then =[graduate to bear scout, then cub scout, then webelos scout. In cub and =[webelos scout theres a pinewood derby. It's where you build mini cars from =[a block of wood and race them down a track. I came in 3rd one year. But, =[george said he was stuck on webelos scout since he couldn't win. many =[people in my "pack" couldn't win, and moved on. webelos scout is 4th grade, =[then boy scout is 5th or 6th... then eagle when you're older. I quit in =[webelos thankfully... =[ =[Jeff =[ =[ wrote in message news:8jaic2$f9t$[email]... =[> In "The Apology", George is talking to Hanky's alcoholic sponsor. He =[> tells him that when he was in the cub scouts. He got stuck on something =[> for 3 years because he kept losing the pinewood derby. =[> =[> I was just wondering if someone could explain what George is talking =[> about, as I am not familiar with scouting activities =[> =[> =[> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ =[> Before you buy. =[
What's funny is that countries like North Korea and Iraq claim that the Boy Scouts is a para-military training camp used to convert U.S. kids into fighting machines. Guess there's a hidden agenda behind tying knots and pinewood derbies.
Espion wrote:
They are absolutely correct. The history of Scouting IS para-military. Even though the USA is the only country that did not adopt the British version started by Powell, the aim was still to produce stealthy, jungle living, skillful spies and soldiers able to work as a platoon and follow orders.
That's why Dave(ratboy) wouldn't cut it. :-)
Here is an excerpt from Lord Baden-Powell's writings:
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[1] ... Somewhere about 1893 I started teaching Scouting to young soldiers
in my regiment. When these young fellows joined the Army
they had learned reading, writing, and arithmetic in school but as a
rule not much else. They were nice lads and made very good
parade soldiers, obeyed orders, kept themselves clean and smart and
all that, but they had never been taught to be men, how to
look after themselves, how to take responsibility, and so on. They
had not had my chances of education outside the classroom. They had been brought up in the herd at school, they were trained as
a herd in the Army; they simply did as they were told and
had no ideas or initiative of their own. In action they carried out
orders, but if their officer was shot they were as helpless as a
flock of sheep. Tell one of them to ride out alone with a message on
a dark night and ten to one he would lose his way. I wanted to make them feel that they were a match for any enemy,
able to find their way by the stars or map, accustomed to
notice all tracks and signs and to read their meaning, and able to
fend for themselves away from regimental cooks and barracks. I
wanted them to have courage, from confidence in themselves and from
a sense of duty; I wanted them to have knowledge of how
to cook their own grub; in short, I wanted each man to be an
efficient, all-round, reliable individual.[2] ... In 1899 I wrote a little book called 'Aids to Scouting' for soldiers. It taught them observation, or how to track, and it taught them deduction, or how to read the information given by tracks.
[3] ... my Chief Staff Officer, Lord Edward Cecil, got together boys in the
place and made them into a cadet corps for carrying
orders and messages and acting as orderlies and so on, in place of
the soldiers, who were thus released to go and strengthen the
firing line. We then made the discovery that boys, when trusted
and relied on, were just as capable and reliable as men.From: http://www.pinetreeweb.com/bp-listener.htm ===============================================================================================
I know a lot about scouting as I was a troop leader until they kicked me out for eating a brownie. :-)
Just wanted to add my name to the list of those who quit as Webelos. Can't say it's made any difference.
"Jeff Pilcicki" wrote in message news:Sy865.22054$A%[email]...
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