What baseball team does Jerry and Geoge like.

Feb 20, 199828 posts by 18 posters
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Niraj Agarwalla

I know Jerry is a huge Mets fan and George is a huge Yankees. Why? If both of them went to school together, and both of them lived in Queens, shouldn't they be supporting the same team? Any ideas?

Niraj Agarwalla -- [email] -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj

Niraj Agarwalla wrote:

On the same subject, who are the "Nicks"....as in "the Nicks' game"? Please forgive my ignorance of baseball.

Jonathan

Jonathan wrote:

Jerry seems to be a Yankee fan too...and George seemed pretty excited at the prospect of working for the Mets (in "The Millenium").

No offense, but you're more ignorant than you realize--it's the Knicks (short for knickerbockers), a New York BASKETBALL team. I don't even follow sports, and I know that.

[email] wrote:

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heheh......I'll get the hang of this continent one day....maybe.

Jonathan

Is this a joke?

[email] "Hindsight is 20/20 vision" "It's all fun and games 'till someone gets and eye poked out, then it is fun and games with one eye ;)"

HeyyyJude wrote:

ok.....I'll bite: it's not a joke; I am THAT...XXXXXX

Maybe you should expand your tiny world view to include the set of people who have little interest in sport.........zoom in further and identify the subset that cares even less about AMERICAN sport. Now take a few steps back and be amazed by the size of this set.

"He's be-boppin' an' scattin' & I'm losin' it!!"

Jonathan

DaveJonathan

In , Jonathan writes:

Alright, Jon.  I don't want to get into a big discussion on this, but more non-
Americans follow American professional sports than any other country's
sports.  How many of us follow cricket?  Or rugby?  Howbout curling?
Or that pole tossing thing the Scottish people do?  Baseball (an American
invention) is currently being played in nearly 100 countries.  Basketball
(another American creation) is enjoyed the world over.  People in South
America, Europe, Asia, even if they can't locate the USA on a map, will
have heard of "The New York Yankees".  it's the stuff of lore.   I think
it's fine that you are not interested.  To each his own.  And I think the
poster that somehow assumed you were XXXXX because you don't know
who the Knicks are showed incredibly poor taste, but please do not
defame the status of American sports in the world today.  I think maybe
you overestimate the 'the size of the set'.
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Kevin DunstanDave

Dave wrote:

Not sure what this has to do with Seinfeld but I'd like to add my two cents. Basketball is not an American creation. It was actually created by a Canadian, Dr. James Naismith in 1891. Also, if you are looking for the world's most popular sport that would probably be soccer something for which Americans are not world renowned. But I will concede that American sports are very popular outside of the States. Please don't take this as me putting down American sports or their popularity. I just wanted to set the record straight...

Kevin.

In , Kevin Dunstan writes:

Alright, alright. Correction noted. But Dr. Naismith did nail up that first peach basket on American soil.

Soccer is the world's most played sport for one main reason. The only equipment required is a ball and a large empty area. I wouldn't expect underdeveloped countries to start building ice hockey rinks.

Thanks Kevin. You could have gotten insulting, and you didn't. [email] (Hammer nail here--> <-- for a new monitor.) (Remove XXXX to reply)

What's the story, Morning Glory.

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Kevin Dunstan wrote:

I could be wrong about this, but I believe that Doctor Naismith was living in Kansas at the time that he invented Basketball, which would make it an American creation. Also, the reason that this was originally posted, I believe, was in connection with episode where Jerry andd George are mistaken for Nazi's.

Kevin Dunstan wrote in article ...

As a Canadian I am proud of Dr. Naismith (of Almonte, Ontario), but I feel it should be pointed out that he invented basketball in the U.S.A. while working at the Springfield, Mass. YMCA . So in that way it is both an American and Canadian creation. Much like the telephone (which it could be said is an American-Canadian-Scottish creation)

Davedjwc

In , "djwc" writes:

True enough, but 'culturally', and in terms of organization
and participation, basketball is all American.  At least, that's
the easy impression to get.  Most folks couldn't even tell you
who James Naismith (wasn't he in 'The Monkees'?) was.
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The News Guy (Mike)Dave

Dave wrote:

Ha Ha... better use White Out on that one! :-)

JonathanDave

Dave wrote:

Yeh, I never said they didn't! My point was that there are billions of people in this

world who don't care much about the sport that is played in their own country, nevermind sport that is played in America.

Dave, I agree with you. For whatever reasons a lot of non-American sports fans like to watch American teams. These teams play different games and there's the added bonus of the "cool factor".

Hmm.....this either tells me something about cricket and rugby or it tells me something about Americans......and perhaps their World view?

The cricket and rugby world cups are truely international...maybe I'm showing my ignorance again but perhaps you could explain the historical accuracy of the term "World" series?

Again I may be showing my ignorance but I don't believe that any country apart from USA and Canada is sufficiently interested to field teams good enough to take part in, or stand any chance of winning the "World" series. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I understand that outside of the US, Japan is the most interested in baseball? I also

believe that their teams are crap, especially if they didn't have the imported American talent to prop them up. Their football (soccer to you) teams are similar. To an outsider like me it seems like a sad rush to embrace "Western" culture.

I thought basketball was a Canadian invention but I may be wrong.

Yeh, I've heard of the Yankee's np there....they are World famous. It's the Knicks I had the XXXX with. The "Knickerbockers" do not share the same level of fame.

I didn't defame the status of American sports but maybe I have with this posting. I was and am now only trying to put things into perspective.

I don't think I overestimate the size of the set at all. A lot of non-Americans watch

American football and baseball but not as many as you'd like to think.

As international games go, baseball and American football (even cricket and rugby!) are small beer. If you want a truly international game then we're talking football (soccer) played everywhere on this planet but strangely unpopular in North America.......

GiddyUp!

Jonathan

The News Guy (Mike)Dave

Dave wrote:

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Basketball was invented by a Canadian actually. One of our claims to sports fame before urine tests :-)

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Dr. James Naismith (1861-1939)

   Attended high school in Almonte, Ontario
   Attended Mcgill University in Montreal, Quebec
   While teaching at the YMCA's Springfield College in Massachusetts in 1891 invented
the game
   of basketball
   Taught at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, Kansas from 1898 until 1937
   Honored throughout North America and at Berlin in 1936 when basketball was played
as an
   Olympic medal sport for the first time. (The United States defeated Canada in the
gold medal
   game)

The Naismith Foundation

The Naismith Foundation, a registered charitable organization incorporated in 1989, has hosted visitors from around the world at its' Visitors Centre adjacent to the original Naismith family farm. the current center located in Ramsay Township in picturesque Lanark County near the town of Almonte (Ontario), 45 minutes from the nation's (Canada's) capital, Ottawa, will be the site of the proposed James Naismith International Basketball Centre.

As well as housing a Hall of fame, the centre will showcase the development of basketball in over 200 countries. It will be both fun and educational. Visitors will be able to participate in programs and exhibits about basketball, leadership, teamwork and athletic skills.

http://www.cdnsport.ca/basketball/naismith/brochure.html
pkirbyJonathan

Jonathan wrote:.net/~niraj

The New York Knicks are my beloved National Basketball Association team. :-)

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Davepkirby

In , Kirby's of Fredericton writes:

And they're 5 games behind the defending division champion Miami Heat. (Sorry. Had to say it. I hate the Knicks. Hate 'em! Hate 'em!!!) [email] (Hammer nail here--> <-- for a new monitor.)

For your information the New York Knicks, which is short for Knickerbockers, are a Basketball team that is housed in New York's Madison Square Garden, they are also Spike Lee's favorite team. And, I like them much better now that Van Gundy's the coach, but I'm definitely not a fan

What's the story, Morning Glory.

On 23 Feb 1998, Dave wrote:

Jonathan writes: >

We will forgive you your ignorance in Basketball ;0)

It's The New York Knicks. A Basketball team.

Martin Laverdure

Well, first off, I lived in the Pacific Northwest, and my favorite baseball team is in Southern California, not Seattle. Secondly, I don't think George was a huge Yankees fan until he started working for them. I thought (I could be wrong of course) that he used to be a Mets fan too. Don't forget he almost took that scouting job with the Mets at the end of his stint with the Yankees.

My father grew up in the Flatbush area of Brooklyn, where everybody bled Dodger Blue. He, however, was and still is a die hard Yankee fan even though that team is in the Bronx. I guess in an area that used to support three major league teams it depended on the players, not where you lived.

The News Guy (Mike)Padre SP

Padre SP wrote:

...He wanted to name his son SEVEN - so he must have been a yankee fan for a while.

There is absolutely no reason why they should like the same team. I have a friend that I grew up with, and we are very similar, but I'm a Packers fan and he likes Dallas. It makes no difference. Besides, both the Yanks and the Mets are in the same city.

What's the story, Morning Glory.

On 20 Feb 1998, Niraj Agarwalla wrote:

Niraj Agarwalla wrote:

As a former New Yorker, I can tell you that there are 2 kinds of NY-ers, those that love the Mets and those that love the Yankees. Its rare when you love both. The mets are the losing underdogs that you really really wanna see win one day. The strugglers.

The Yankees are the champions, a winning machine. Some love that reputation, others expect them to always win and don't even notice when they do.

Herb

Herb writes:

that love the Mets and those that love the Yankees. Its rare when you love both. The mets are the losing underdogs that you really really wanna see win one day. The strugglers.

others expect them to always win and don't even notice when they do.

The way I see it, and I am a Yankee and Islander fan from Brooklyn, is that 33 1/3% are Met fans, 33 1/3% are Yankee fans, and the other 33 1/3% are casual fans who will root for both teams. As for Jerry and George, Jerry is a Met fan and George is a Yankee fan, but I am sure that like most New Yorkers, they would hope, if not root, for the other one to succeed (except, of course, when they play each other in interleague games and hopefully sometime soon a Subway Series!). There are Yankee and Met fans from all over New York, just like there can be Ranger fans from Long Island and Islander fans from the five boroughs. However, the hockey rivalry is much more intense. If you are for one team, you MUST hate the other (as well as the Devils)!!! and I would rather eat chalk dust than root for the Rangers, unless of course they were playing a team that the Islanders needed to catch up to in order to make a playoff spot or get a higher seed.

Also, while the Yankees are a winning machine, the team that is most beloved was also the most hated for a while, until they played the heavily favored Atlanta Braves in the '96 World Series, and found another team (and owner) even more hated than themselves!!!

Early in the Seinfeld shows - Jerry had a Mets hat hanging one week on the wall, the next week the YanKees. Sometimes it was on the shelf.

D.